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I just bought a Roush Supercharger for my 2012 5.0. How much boost should I go with?

Old Jan 6, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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Might wanna look more into why KB cools the front. Its actually a pretty nifty concept.
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by unas2k5
I asked the shop doing the install about heat soaking when I was debating whether to get a Vortech or Roush when someone told me Roush TVS heat soak badly:

Sounds like something Whipple or Kenne Belle would say. TVS blowers dont heat soak, they are the coolest running of all rotor type. I check temperatures when we do dyno pulls, after 8 hards WOT pulls I could still touch Joe's Roush, 114°F.

Whipple....170° AFTER 2. And KB had to liquid the front bearing support LOL. He said it was called "Delta T"


Roush has the largest charge cooler core for the 5.0 too. You have to rotate the knocks sensors and reroute the wires to not pinch them because the tub is so big."
I went out and did some 0-60 pulls, and got out and my supercharger was cooking, i couldn't put my hand on it... so I guess that idea is out. ha ha but intake temperatures still haven't got about 110 at idle and nearly match ambient air when moving. It's only about 67 degrees out though. Yeah, I don't know much about TVS, I just know my whipple was always hot after 2-3 pulls.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by unas2k5
LOL I have a 12 Boss 302 forged block.
How robust are the forged internals in the boss motor. I would like to see some pic's of the rods and pistons.

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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Scuba-Matt
How robust are the forged internals in the boss motor. I would like to see some pic's of the rods and pistons.
Do you have the Internet?
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Scuba-Matt
How robust are the forged internals in the boss motor. I would like to see some pic's of the rods and pistons.
Unlike the douche who replied to your comment first, I'll hopefully be of some help.

Here's a link on the Boss 302. Shows pictures of the internals and gives great information.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...302/index.html

In terms of robust, I wouldn't push the Boss rods and pistons past 800-850rwhp. The crank can handle up to 1,400hp from what I've read and discussed with vendors.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackMamba03

Unlike the douche who replied to your comment first, I'll hopefully be of some help.

Here's a link on the Boss 302. Shows pictures of the internals and gives great information.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...302/index.html

In terms of robust, I wouldn't push the Boss rods and pistons past 800-850rwhp. The crank can handle up to 1,400hp from what I've read and discussed with vendors.
Good one
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackMamba03
Unlike the douche who replied to your comment first, I'll hopefully be of some help.

Here's a link on the Boss 302. Shows pictures of the internals and gives great information.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...302/index.html

In terms of robust, I wouldn't push the Boss rods and pistons past 800-850rwhp. The crank can handle up to 1,400hp from what I've read and discussed with vendors.
Thanks bro.
I expected a little more meat on the Boss rods.
I'll probably put some H beams in mine.
As far as the douche goes, Probably a napoleon complex.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Scuba-Matt
Thanks bro.
I expected a little more meat on the Boss rods.
I'll probably put some H beams in mine.
As far as the douche goes, Probably a napoleon complex.
Actually, I made that comment because I saw your original post correcting the guy by saying "it's a cast block with forged internals" even though you knew what he meant. I can't stand the forum idiots like you that feel the need to correct everyone
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scuba-Matt
How robust are the forged internals in the boss motor. I would like to see some pic's of the rods and pistons.

You question has already been answered but I do have a couple pics of my block.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackMamba03
Unlike the douche who replied to your comment first, I'll hopefully be of some help.

Here's a link on the Boss 302. Shows pictures of the internals and gives great information.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...302/index.html

In terms of robust, I wouldn't push the Boss rods and pistons past 800-850rwhp. The crank can handle up to 1,400hp from what I've read and discussed with vendors.

How much HP do you think the Coyote valve train can handle? I don't think I'd go over 750W -800W anyway. Thanks
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by unas2k5
How much HP do you think the Coyote valve train can handle? I don't think I'd go over 750W -800W anyway. Thanks
I wouldn't push a Coyote with stock internals and valvetrain to beyond 725-750rwhp. Too many things come to mind that could go wrong.

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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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You think 700WHP is safe on a Coyote? I don't know that.


I have a Boss 302 block but have the Coyote valve train. I heard that I should probably swap out the valve train if I wanted to go over 750W or so.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by unas2k5
You think 700WHP is safe on a Coyote? I don't know that.


I have a Boss 302 block but have the Coyote valve train. I heard that I should probably swap out the valve train if I wanted to go over 750W or so.
There's plenty of guys running the stock valvetrain and are pushing almost 700rwhp. I know of one for sure over on SVTP that's pushing 706rwhp and is upping his Procharger boost this Spring. My personal choice, I'd upgrade the valvetrain at the 700 mark. Here's a link for a company that just released new valvetrain components for the 5.0 motor. Beehive springs, Titanium retainers, etc. I'd give them a call and go from there.

http://www.ferrea.com/

Here's the story they did on StangTV.

http://www.stangtv.com/news/new-prod...ng-components/
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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OP when you gonna fire this up?
Waiting on your numbers.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 12:12 AM
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Check out this build with a KB for reference. Owner (selling car now) is a member here...

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...s/viewall.html
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by unas2k5
You think 700WHP is safe on a Coyote? I don't know that.

I have a Boss 302 block but have the Coyote valve train. I heard that I should probably swap out the valve train if I wanted to go over 750W or so.
Does any one know what valve train the Aluminator uses, and is that the engine in the Cobra Jet? I assume it is.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by black5.0
Actually, I made that comment because I saw your original post correcting the guy by saying "it's a cast block with forged internals" even though you knew what he meant. I can't stand the forum idiots like you that feel the need to correct everyone
Wasn't correcting anyone, Some people actually think a forged bottom end means a forged block. Of course what would you know.
And I can't stand idiots like you, who think they are something their not.
Get a life.

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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Scuba-Matt
Wasn't correcting anyone, Some people actually think a forged bottom end means a forged block. Of course what would you know.
And I can't stand idiots like you, who think they are something their not.
Get a life.
You're funny nice excuse scuba
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 06:56 AM
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whyyyyyyy sooooooo serious
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeR
Does any one know what valve train the Aluminator uses, and is that the engine in the Cobra Jet? I assume it is.
The Aluminator uses Boss valve springs, GT roller finger followers and GT valves. Also, the Cobra Jet uses the Aluminator.
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