- FRPP Pro-Cal Owners...in here!
10/25/12, 06:01 AM
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Installed my Pro-cal last night.....pretty decent tune! Not gonna go into how it feels, u should know that if you own one...
I ordered it from BuyFordRacing.com for $298, got an email from Ford racing with registration info w/in an hour! Once I filled it out I had my Tuner the NEXt DAY!
Anyhow, prior to installing it I watched my Aeroforce for a few days...after install I noticed the following: Knock values went up 50pts across the board @ Idle & 60mph.....ignition advance went down slightly about 1.2 (knock selection set at "N" on the pro-cal w/ 93 octane and had zero audible ping)
I have the lower profile GT500 stock tires and was shocked to see that ford racing had the revs per mile @ 777, which is Exactly what I needed. Shocking since the tuner is supposed to be setup for Stock GT's.
QUESTION: for those with the pro-cal...did you send it back into Ford Racing after install for the $75 exchange?!
QUESTION: where did you place your Authentication sticker!? I have mine on the DS door jam and it fits/functions perfectly in that spot!
I ordered it from BuyFordRacing.com for $298, got an email from Ford racing with registration info w/in an hour! Once I filled it out I had my Tuner the NEXt DAY!
Anyhow, prior to installing it I watched my Aeroforce for a few days...after install I noticed the following: Knock values went up 50pts across the board @ Idle & 60mph.....ignition advance went down slightly about 1.2 (knock selection set at "N" on the pro-cal w/ 93 octane and had zero audible ping)
I have the lower profile GT500 stock tires and was shocked to see that ford racing had the revs per mile @ 777, which is Exactly what I needed. Shocking since the tuner is supposed to be setup for Stock GT's.
QUESTION: for those with the pro-cal...did you send it back into Ford Racing after install for the $75 exchange?!
QUESTION: where did you place your Authentication sticker!? I have mine on the DS door jam and it fits/functions perfectly in that spot!
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10/25/12, 12:35 PM
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FRPP Pro-Cal Tuner
I also bought the tune and calibration tool from those guys, they do have the best price I found anywhere. Good decision.
I agree that the tune is mild, but worth it: I can feel it when I shift and it got rid of the skip shift, which was well worth it. I didn't realize how often the skip shift was actually happening...... until I got rid of it!
To answer your questions; no, I didn't send the tuner back for the $75 refund. I felt that in case, for some reason, I need to go back to stock, I have a way to do it. Probably not going to come up, but who knows.
I put my calibraion sticker under the hood, near the emission ones, but I think your location is a much better place. Should have thought of that !
Can you explain what you were talking about with the lower stock tires and the rev's per mile. None of that came up when I did the install: it goes by the VIN and if you made mods to the axle ratio, and tire diameter. I guess that's what you mean-you have different diameter tires on your car? What other perfromance mods have you done that might have affected the tune?
Lastly, I couldn't find a local Ford dealer to install the tune (older thread several months ago), so I had it done at a local speed shop, and I suppose the warranty that they say is now with Ford Racing isn't valid? However, I'm not stressing too much, I think when one reads the FRPP catalog where they describe the tune, it seems to be well thought out and not going to damage the engine. I just cannot imagine that they would create a tune that was "edgy" in any way. Not a large organization like Ford Racing. Hope I'm right with that conclusion!
I agree that the tune is mild, but worth it: I can feel it when I shift and it got rid of the skip shift, which was well worth it. I didn't realize how often the skip shift was actually happening...... until I got rid of it!
To answer your questions; no, I didn't send the tuner back for the $75 refund. I felt that in case, for some reason, I need to go back to stock, I have a way to do it. Probably not going to come up, but who knows.
I put my calibraion sticker under the hood, near the emission ones, but I think your location is a much better place. Should have thought of that !
Can you explain what you were talking about with the lower stock tires and the rev's per mile. None of that came up when I did the install: it goes by the VIN and if you made mods to the axle ratio, and tire diameter. I guess that's what you mean-you have different diameter tires on your car? What other perfromance mods have you done that might have affected the tune?
Lastly, I couldn't find a local Ford dealer to install the tune (older thread several months ago), so I had it done at a local speed shop, and I suppose the warranty that they say is now with Ford Racing isn't valid? However, I'm not stressing too much, I think when one reads the FRPP catalog where they describe the tune, it seems to be well thought out and not going to damage the engine. I just cannot imagine that they would create a tune that was "edgy" in any way. Not a large organization like Ford Racing. Hope I'm right with that conclusion!
10/25/12, 02:48 PM
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My local service manager said he will NOT void my warranty on a Ford Racing part! PLUS, there has not been a warranty claim or any issues with the pro-cal warranty wise since 2007....so Im not worried. Especially since I did not experience ANY ping at all on the "N" knock setting.
I will say that today I noticed my exhaust is a bit quieter which Im not a fan of.....guess I will look into getting the FRPP "Sport" mufflers now! $$$$
I will say that today I noticed my exhaust is a bit quieter which Im not a fan of.....guess I will look into getting the FRPP "Sport" mufflers now! $$$$
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10/25/12, 05:59 PM
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The car feels ...smoother, shifting is like hot knife through butter vs how stock felt a little tiny bit notchy to me.
I heard the tire chirp once today when I was getting on it...was not able to do that without revving up high and letting off the clutch before. Seems that the mid range is where all the improvement is....Throttle response might feel a little better but I had no prob with it before really. RPMs drop faster between shifts.
Overall I recommend it (for the price) if you do not plan on adding a BOSS IM, headers or removing your cats. I have a ROUSH CAI and have no problems...didn't use the K&N Filter.
During my research a custom tune from one of the more popular tuners was $600...so this is literally half the cost and maybe 10hp difference!?
I heard the tire chirp once today when I was getting on it...was not able to do that without revving up high and letting off the clutch before. Seems that the mid range is where all the improvement is....Throttle response might feel a little better but I had no prob with it before really. RPMs drop faster between shifts.
Overall I recommend it (for the price) if you do not plan on adding a BOSS IM, headers or removing your cats. I have a ROUSH CAI and have no problems...didn't use the K&N Filter.
During my research a custom tune from one of the more popular tuners was $600...so this is literally half the cost and maybe 10hp difference!?
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10/25/12, 06:48 PM
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I miss it. The car was so much quicker low in the band, the throttle response was better, there was no Skip-Shift Nanny, and the RPMS didn't hold when I let off the gas -- the car actually decelerated as a consequence (go figure!).
The reason I took the tune off is that I was having detonation like no other all of the time, and nothing would fix it short of adding a bottle of Octane Booster to each full tank. I live in Phoenix where 91 is the highest octane gas available.
I am concerned that, since I was driving on it like that for 20000+ miles, there is premature engine wear. I don't know if I should call FRPP or Ford about it...
10/25/12, 07:08 PM
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Yeah I would only recommend this tune for those who can and will get 93 octane all the time! For the reasons you see above, even though FR says its not an issue.
10/27/12, 09:37 PM
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10/28/12, 06:58 AM
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All the owners I know with the FRPP Pro-cal tune all have an after-market intake. At this time I am not interested in an after-market intake which is why I asked the question.
10/28/12, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MyStang2010GB
All the owners I know with the FRPP Pro-cal tune all have an after-market intake. At this time I am not interested in an after-market intake which is why I asked the question.
5/29/13, 10:29 AM
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i am planning to get Ford pro -cal tune. how do i return to stock tune if i want to get 87 octane fuel. i do road trip quite often and cannt garauntee 93 all the way. any help is appreciated
5/30/13, 08:47 AM
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It's pretty much plug it in and scroll through the menus, it's pretty intuitive. Make sure you're on a fully charged battery or on a battery charger and that all electrical accessories are turned off.
So far, I'm blowing thorough 114 mph in the quarter on this tune, on a fully loaded GT with everything but glass roof so, it does work. It like good 91+ fuel certainly but, doesn't speed up or slow down on 93.
So far, I'm blowing thorough 114 mph in the quarter on this tune, on a fully loaded GT with everything but glass roof so, it does work. It like good 91+ fuel certainly but, doesn't speed up or slow down on 93.