e-mailed tunes making me nervous
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E-mailed tunes making me nervous
I know , another dang tune thread. But just wanted to say that some of these e-mail tunes are beginning to make me nervous.
Not going to state which ones , but one tune caused surging. Data log looked fine though.
Tried out another tune from a different company and it wasn't tuned for offroad and the revision was sent out for a 93 oct instead of 91 (which was requested). I think it may be time to get a dyno tune and stay away from the e-mailed tunes.
Not going to state which ones , but one tune caused surging. Data log looked fine though.
Tried out another tune from a different company and it wasn't tuned for offroad and the revision was sent out for a 93 oct instead of 91 (which was requested). I think it may be time to get a dyno tune and stay away from the e-mailed tunes.
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I know , another dang tune thread. But just wanted to say that some of these e-mail tunes are beginning to make me nervous.
Not going to state which ones , but one tune caused surging. Data log looked fine though.
Tried out another tune from a different company and it wasn't tuned for offroad and the revision was sent out for a 93 oct instead of 91 (which was requested). I think it may be time to get a dyno tune and stay away from the e-mailed tunes.
Not going to state which ones , but one tune caused surging. Data log looked fine though.
Tried out another tune from a different company and it wasn't tuned for offroad and the revision was sent out for a 93 oct instead of 91 (which was requested). I think it may be time to get a dyno tune and stay away from the e-mailed tunes.
I love my email tunes , however go for a dyno tune. Its your money bro. What ever you want. Your the boss.
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I hear ya. It seems hit or miss sometimes. The first tune I was running, I wouldn't have a concern running it for fear of engine damage. But the other seems to be missing just the basic mods request that I sent them, twice.
Makes me a little less confident in running that tune all of the time. We'll see if it is better after the revision but I will definitely be logging it to make sure.
Makes me a little less confident in running that tune all of the time. We'll see if it is better after the revision but I will definitely be logging it to make sure.
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I hear ya. It seems hit or miss sometimes. The first tune I was running, I wouldn't have a concern running it for fear of engine damage. But the other seems to be missing just the basic mods request that I sent them, twice.
Makes me a little less confident in running that tune all of the time. We'll see if it is better after the revision but I will definitely be logging it to make sure.
Makes me a little less confident in running that tune all of the time. We'll see if it is better after the revision but I will definitely be logging it to make sure.
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It wasn't.
Asked for a refund since I still don't have the correct tune that was requested . Waiting on the response...
But, I may give one of those above mentioned a try.
Asked for a refund since I still don't have the correct tune that was requested . Waiting on the response...
But, I may give one of those above mentioned a try.
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I got my BAMA tune as a 93 Hybrid from AM. It made a huge difference in the feel of the car. I have yet to dyno the car, but the torque on the low end is especially nice.
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Put 200K miles on my '05 V6, about 160K of it with a Brenspeed tune.
Currently running a Steeda tune on my 5.0 with no issues.
Guess there are fans for almost all the name Tuners....
Currently running a Steeda tune on my 5.0 with no issues.
Guess there are fans for almost all the name Tuners....
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i got lost reading all the tune threads in here.... i consider tune as a make up kit... no one can make a universal kit which would make anyone look like a star... u need to keep trying different products till u like one or go to beauty saloon pay the premium n get it done the way best suits u.
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i got lost reading all the tune threads in here.... i consider tune as a make up kit... no one can make a universal kit which would make anyone look like a star... u need to keep trying different products till u like one or go to beauty saloon pay the premium n get it done the way best suits u.
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There's a lot of reputable tuners out there for Mustangs. I don't think any of them produce tunes that could potentially harm our Mustang. Half the reason most tuners are reputable is because any issues that you may experience with their tune is usually regarding your specific Mustang's characteristics, which can be dialed in. If you know what you're doing, it's not to hard to ensure ones tunes are safe!
Wish you the best with your search!
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Wish you the best with your search!
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I have analyzed a ton of dealer tunes and have found things like the following (this is only a few)
1. Changing the Knock Sensor Retard Rate from a .5* to 1*
2. Adding 5* degrees to the Global Timing adder... (changing this value at all is not smart, its a unregulated value)
3. Raising the Base Table for Piston Protection table to all max values (63's for the entire 3d array)
4. Raising the Max Spark Advance all to table max values (again all 63's)
These are the issues that I have seen cause pistons to fail (and like they have in the past, specifically the #8).
Typically no 2 dealers have the exact same tune. Each has their on interpritation of changes to tables.
However, personally I would have no problem running saying a BamaTune is good, but a Breenspeed... ehhhh I dunno.
TIP OF THE DAY: Real tuners dont start from SCT base files.
Just my 2 cents
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i had surges until i got my idle turned up a little too. its set at 800 right now and i have absolutely no surges anymore. im probably gonna go back down to 700 cause it sounds like its idling in closed loop all the time now because of the high idle even tho its going into closed. im actually happy with my bama tune now. my previous tune not so much but they got it pretty much perfect this time. feels and sounds like a really powerful tune.
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You can verify the Fuel Mode by datalogging the Fuel Status Flag using your SCT tuner/computer.
Are you familiar what it means to be in closed vs open loop Fuel statuses?
-Matt
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i was thinking open but said closed. my bad.
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Theres a reason why we use VMP for tunes, Justin is strict when writing his tunes, you typically won't see a turnaround of 12 hours with a tune from him and if you do from another dealer I would be skeptical. Get a tune from a company that bases the foundation of their business off of tuning.
VMP, Lund, AED, MPT are all great tuners, they've broken records, have many cars running great numbers and times safely. You'll hear about more blown engines from these companies but its typically from someone knowing what to expect or running 700HP revving to 8k RPM's.
All of these companies also have known tuners associated with their company, I won't talk bad about other companies that produce tunes but you know nothing about what their tuning experience is or their background you should ask, and you should get a straight answer.... with names.
Also the token verbiage of "race", "street", "economy" tunes is kind of a misnomer. A race tune is simply keeping the cams out of gas mileage mode all the time so it feels crisper.
I always recommend to my customers to read as much as you can about tuning, I think its beneficial for customers to be educated in the matter. If something small goes wrong the end user has some sort of knowledge base to work off of and, in the end, ask the right questions.
Tunes are based off efficiency, the more efficient your motor runs the more HP it should make while, at the same time, saving you MPG's.
I went off on a little side note but the days of blowing an N/A engine are few and very far between, now it just comes to drivability. I would also like to state that if a company cannot tune an F/I car, I really wouldn't trust them to tune an N/A car. Just my 2 cents.
VMP, Lund, AED, MPT are all great tuners, they've broken records, have many cars running great numbers and times safely. You'll hear about more blown engines from these companies but its typically from someone knowing what to expect or running 700HP revving to 8k RPM's.
All of these companies also have known tuners associated with their company, I won't talk bad about other companies that produce tunes but you know nothing about what their tuning experience is or their background you should ask, and you should get a straight answer.... with names.
Also the token verbiage of "race", "street", "economy" tunes is kind of a misnomer. A race tune is simply keeping the cams out of gas mileage mode all the time so it feels crisper.
I always recommend to my customers to read as much as you can about tuning, I think its beneficial for customers to be educated in the matter. If something small goes wrong the end user has some sort of knowledge base to work off of and, in the end, ask the right questions.
Tunes are based off efficiency, the more efficient your motor runs the more HP it should make while, at the same time, saving you MPG's.
I went off on a little side note but the days of blowing an N/A engine are few and very far between, now it just comes to drivability. I would also like to state that if a company cannot tune an F/I car, I really wouldn't trust them to tune an N/A car. Just my 2 cents.
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