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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 12:54 AM
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cooling a 14 GT

I am locate in Vegas and now the temps are getting up there. I have a 14 gt premium TP, so I have the gauge cluster which shows my car is running anywhere from 207 to 219 depending on how I drive it. I have the TP radiator for whatever that is worth. Is there a way to reduce those temps. A guy I talked to once before mentioned AMS oil has a coolant that could help. What about this Mishimoto liquid chill or royal purple ice. These claim to reduce temps, but are they good for this setup and do they work. Im also considering SC or Turbo setup so do I have to add to cooling system with either of these? How much to reinforce the coyote to take more than 700 HP?
oK ok i'll say it myself, im all over the place I know. But this is what I'm considering. Thanks for help.
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 01:55 AM
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A few upgrades to consider.

Boss 302 engine oil cooler, lower thermostat, 4 core radiator.
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sclv12
I have the gauge cluster which shows my car is running anywhere from 207 to 219 depending on how I drive it. I have the TP radiator for whatever that is worth. Im also considering SC or Turbo setup so do I have to add to cooling system with either of these? How much to reinforce the coyote to take more than 700 HP?
Driving in Texas I feel your pain!
Do the 2014 TP gauges actually show water temps or are you talking about cylinder head temperature on the gauge? If so those numbers are fine. Traditionally the CHT will run 10 to 13 degrees higher than water temp.
700 HP at the crank or at the wheels? On stock internals I think it would be better to shoot for at the most low 600's at the wheels.

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A few upgrades to consider.
Boss 302 engine oil cooler, lower thermostat, 4 core radiator.
Unless things have changed on the 2014 the "track pack" has the Boss oil cooler. 170 degree thermostat is a good idea but unless you get a tune that can turn the fans on earlier it won't do as much good. Here's a statement from VMP
"11+ vehicles use a variable speed fan that must be adjusted by your tuner and can not be adjusted on the SCT handheld. We recommend bringing the fan on 50% at 180F and 100% by 200F."

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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 08:24 AM
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That's surprising that you get cooling problems since you have the Boss 302 radiator and oil cooler.

It's pricey, but you could switch out to the larger Boss oil-to-air cooler:
http://fordracingparts123.com/engine...PfC4SwmTzw_wcB
Would keep your oil cooler and take some load off your cooling system.
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 07:42 AM
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The Boss "oil cooler" is the exact same design as the 03 Cobra where it "cools" using the coolant. Your engine oil gets hotter than coolant and so eventually your going to get cooling issues. Switch to an air to oil cooler similar to what they use on the 302S, though you don't need to buy the 1k+ kit from Ford racing.
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon302
The Boss "oil cooler" is the exact same design as the 03 Cobra where it "cools" using the coolant. Your engine oil gets hotter than coolant and so eventually your going to get cooling issues. Switch to an air to oil cooler similar to what they use on the 302S, though you don't need to buy the 1k+ kit from Ford racing.
This is the oil cooler I meant. I thought that's what the standard boss 302 came with, I didn't know it was one of the coolant bypass oil coolers. Learn something new everyday .

http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com...-6642-mba.htm=
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sclv12
I am locate in Vegas and now the temps are getting up there. I have a 14 gt premium TP, so I have the gauge cluster which shows my car is running anywhere from 207 to 219 depending on how I drive it. I have the TP radiator for whatever that is worth. Is there a way to reduce those temps. A guy I talked to once before mentioned AMS oil has a coolant that could help. What about this Mishimoto liquid chill or royal purple ice. These claim to reduce temps, but are they good for this setup and do they work. Im also considering SC or Turbo setup so do I have to add to cooling system with either of these? How much to reinforce the coyote to take more than 700 HP?
oK ok i'll say it myself, im all over the place I know. But this is what I'm considering. Thanks for help.
What gauge cluster do you have that shows such exact temps?

The motor has a 195* thermostat so it is always going to run at least that hot unless you change to a cooler stat.

And the motor is designed to run at those high temps, and in a closed cooling system with the proper coolant, it can run up to 240 or so without boiling over or damaging the motor.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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I have the premium GT with the center cluster. I didn't describe it correctly but someone above mentioned it....I'm talking about the cylinder heads reaching as high as 219. Have been over that but I'm wondering if that tops out at 219. A guy I know was running AMs oil and twin turbos and I think he said he never sees temps above 205 and usually runs less than 200 but not sure was a while ago that talked to him. Just fishing for info to see if that could be reduced that's al.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 01:52 PM
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Should have said .....haven't been over 219.
I should proof read before submitting.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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I've seen 246 for the cylinder head temps....inlet temp 158....living in Arizona and all....
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 03:51 PM
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Like I said earlier in this thread the CHT will always be higher than water temp. I have a Aeroforce gauge and monitor water temp and it is typically 10 to 15 degrees less than CHT on the gauge cluster. A 170 degree thermostat won't do you much good in traffic unless you get a tune that starts the cooling fans earlier.

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I've seen 246 for the cylinder head temps....inlet temp 158....living in Arizona and all....
Wow you beat me, here in Houston in the hottest part of summer the highest I've seen my CHT is 235 but my inlet air has gotten up to the 180's in bad rush hour traffic.
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Old Jul 4, 2014 | 11:07 AM
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Saw 223 yest. Anyone use the AMs oil coolant boost? Suppose to reduce temps.
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