BBK 85mm TB any good?
2/5/15, 09:54 PM
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BBK 85mm TB any good?
Hoping I can get some insight.
I was given a BBK 85mm throtle body from a guy that just traded in his car.
It says you do not need a tune to run it, and there is a 10+ H.P. gain?
My question is I have a Procal tune, GT 500 mufflers and drop in K&N filter, could I run this? Will ther be any gains? Could it hurt anything?
It was free so I will try it if there is no chance of hurting anything!
I just know from back in the 90's when I put one on my first stock 1988 5.0 it made no difference!
Any insight would be great!
Thanks!
I was given a BBK 85mm throtle body from a guy that just traded in his car.
It says you do not need a tune to run it, and there is a 10+ H.P. gain?
My question is I have a Procal tune, GT 500 mufflers and drop in K&N filter, could I run this? Will ther be any gains? Could it hurt anything?
It was free so I will try it if there is no chance of hurting anything!
I just know from back in the 90's when I put one on my first stock 1988 5.0 it made no difference!
Any insight would be great!
Thanks!
2/6/15, 07:29 AM
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if its free than nothing to loose. I dont think you will see and HP to speak of. But it is safe to install. If you want to donate it I can help :-)
2/7/15, 05:41 AM
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At the end of the day you're still running the stock MAF housing, so it won't screw up the tune since the amount of air going in will still be correctly metered. Should be able to run it with no ill effects. I can't comment on whether you'll make any power from it. I don't know the diameter of the MAF housing off-hand. If it's bigger than the stock TB, then you've got a chance to feed in a little more air and make a little more power, but if it's the same as the stock housing or smaller, then that TB likely won't do anything performance wise.
Although, it will ramp up the effective throttle mapping a bit since it'll flow more air at a given throttle angle than the stocker due to the larger diameter. But ultimate power is going to still be limited by the size of the tube leading up to it.
Although, it will ramp up the effective throttle mapping a bit since it'll flow more air at a given throttle angle than the stocker due to the larger diameter. But ultimate power is going to still be limited by the size of the tube leading up to it.
2/8/15, 01:22 PM
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2/9/15, 05:13 PM
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Ty Webb: You take drugs, Danny?
Danny Noonan: Every day.
Ty Webb: Good. Then what's your problem?
Danny Noonan: I don't know.
Sorry that came to mind when I saw your name. Caddy shack
BK Performance Power Plus Series throttle bodies for the 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 Mustang GT, Boss 302, and 3.7L V6. Also the 2011-14 F Series Trucks with the Coyote 5.0 and 3.7L V6 & 3.5L Eco Boost powered vehicles. CNC machined from high quality 356 aluminum castings to ensure perfect OEM quality and fit every time. Installs in minutes, providing an 30-40 horsepower gain while maintaining OEM drivability and reliability by using factory style electronics and drive motor assembly. This throttle body is a direct replacement but is not simply a bored out factory unit. It's an all new BBK designed 356 aluminum casting that is then fully CNC machined.
It really said 8 to 12hp I would expect maybe a 3 to 5hp gain which you won't feel and you might get a little better throttle response.
OP please check your current miles per gallon before you swap things around please
Danny Noonan: Every day.
Ty Webb: Good. Then what's your problem?
Danny Noonan: I don't know.
Sorry that came to mind when I saw your name. Caddy shack
BK Performance Power Plus Series throttle bodies for the 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 Mustang GT, Boss 302, and 3.7L V6. Also the 2011-14 F Series Trucks with the Coyote 5.0 and 3.7L V6 & 3.5L Eco Boost powered vehicles. CNC machined from high quality 356 aluminum castings to ensure perfect OEM quality and fit every time. Installs in minutes, providing an 30-40 horsepower gain while maintaining OEM drivability and reliability by using factory style electronics and drive motor assembly. This throttle body is a direct replacement but is not simply a bored out factory unit. It's an all new BBK designed 356 aluminum casting that is then fully CNC machined.
It really said 8 to 12hp I would expect maybe a 3 to 5hp gain which you won't feel and you might get a little better throttle response.
OP please check your current miles per gallon before you swap things around please
2/9/15, 05:51 PM
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I had an '06 GT with tune, CAI, and axlebacks when I added a larger diameter BBK throttle body. After installing the throttle body, and loading another tailored tune, I noticed an improvement in throttle response. I can't speak for HP/TQ gains, but the throttle was, without a doubt, more responsive. Additionally, it sounded sweet at WOT. 😎
You've got nothing to lose by trying it out. Let us know how it goes!
You've got nothing to lose by trying it out. Let us know how it goes!
2/10/15, 09:39 PM
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At the end of the day you're still running the stock MAF housing, so it won't screw up the tune since the amount of air going in will still be correctly metered. Should be able to run it with no ill effects. I can't comment on whether you'll make any power from it. I don't know the diameter of the MAF housing off-hand. If it's bigger than the stock TB, then you've got a chance to feed in a little more air and make a little more power, but if it's the same as the stock housing or smaller, then that TB likely won't do anything performance wise.
Although, it will ramp up the effective throttle mapping a bit since it'll flow more air at a given throttle angle than the stocker due to the larger diameter. But ultimate power is going to still be limited by the size of the tube leading up to it.
Although, it will ramp up the effective throttle mapping a bit since it'll flow more air at a given throttle angle than the stocker due to the larger diameter. But ultimate power is going to still be limited by the size of the tube leading up to it.
2/10/15, 09:55 PM
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Well I installed the new BBK TB tonight, took about 30 min. taking my time.
I wii try it out tomorrow on my drive to work.
I drive the same rout everyday 45 mi. round trip mixed driving and over a 2 day period I have been averaging 21 mpg.
So test 1 will be seeing if there is any mpg change over the next 2 days.
Then test 2 this weekend I will open it up and see if I feel any power difference!
On a side note, I have a Moroso oil separator, and with the TB off I was able to check the inside of the intake manifold. Wow does that thing work!
The intake was completely clean, nothing inside after 8K miles! The car this TB came off from did not have a separator and the back of the TB and intake manifold was covered with carbon and oil residue! ( it had 14K mi. On it)
So +1 for the oil separator!
I wii try it out tomorrow on my drive to work.
I drive the same rout everyday 45 mi. round trip mixed driving and over a 2 day period I have been averaging 21 mpg.
So test 1 will be seeing if there is any mpg change over the next 2 days.
Then test 2 this weekend I will open it up and see if I feel any power difference!
On a side note, I have a Moroso oil separator, and with the TB off I was able to check the inside of the intake manifold. Wow does that thing work!
The intake was completely clean, nothing inside after 8K miles! The car this TB came off from did not have a separator and the back of the TB and intake manifold was covered with carbon and oil residue! ( it had 14K mi. On it)
So +1 for the oil separator!
2/12/15, 09:29 PM
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Well after 2 days of testing the mpg difference with the new TB Iam happy to say I have picked up +1.3 mpg.
I averaged 21.1 for 2 days of the exact same drive and the only change was the TB.
Iam now getting 22.4 mpg.
Once I got home and finished my mileage test I went out and got on it some,
I can not notice any power difference!
But my idle seems to be smoother than before and there is a slight change in intake sound! (sounds good!)
In 2 weeks I will bring it to the drag strip to see if there is any noticeable difference there!
I averaged 21.1 for 2 days of the exact same drive and the only change was the TB.
Iam now getting 22.4 mpg.
Once I got home and finished my mileage test I went out and got on it some,
I can not notice any power difference!
But my idle seems to be smoother than before and there is a slight change in intake sound! (sounds good!)
In 2 weeks I will bring it to the drag strip to see if there is any noticeable difference there!
2/13/15, 04:51 PM
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But providing no technical background on which your "facts" are based. Quite simply, if the MAF housing is bigger than the TB there's an opportunity to flow more air. How much effect that has depends on a lot of things, but at the end of the day, there is no downside, because he didn't spend any money. So he can't lose by giving it a shot.
2/13/15, 04:56 PM
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Well after 2 days of testing the mpg difference with the new TB Iam happy to say I have picked up +1.3 mpg.
I averaged 21.1 for 2 days of the exact same drive and the only change was the TB.
Iam now getting 22.4 mpg.
Once I got home and finished my mileage test I went out and got on it some,
I can not notice any power difference!
But my idle seems to be smoother than before and there is a slight change in intake sound! (sounds good!)
In 2 weeks I will bring it to the drag strip to see if there is any noticeable difference there!
I averaged 21.1 for 2 days of the exact same drive and the only change was the TB.
Iam now getting 22.4 mpg.
Once I got home and finished my mileage test I went out and got on it some,
I can not notice any power difference!
But my idle seems to be smoother than before and there is a slight change in intake sound! (sounds good!)
In 2 weeks I will bring it to the drag strip to see if there is any noticeable difference there!
Also relieved to hear how effective your oil sep is. I bought mine based on your reconmendation and have been very happy. I've only pulled off the hose to the TB for a look on mine and it was always dry, but knowing yours is doing so well with 3 times the mileage gives me a lot of peace of mind.
2/13/15, 10:23 PM
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Also relieved to hear how effective your oil sep is. I bought mine based on your reconmendation and have been very happy. I've only pulled off the hose to the TB for a look on mine and it was always dry, but knowing yours is doing so well with 3 times the mileage gives me a lot of peace of mind.
Best preventive mod you can do on these cars!
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