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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 06:55 AM
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New 2012 Indycars

First up is Dallara, which released 3 2012 concepts over the last couple of days.

http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/dall...oncept-chassis

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New 'Delta-Wedge' should be shown last this week (11th) and I think Lola and Swift will be showing "concepts" as well.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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Good Lord that's ugly.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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Concept three is likely the best speedway car, but the wings on all of them are too bulky for speedways. I've not watched Indy car in a while... do the rules exclude speedway wings now?

Oh, and I also like 3 the best, because it is 'powerful Mach 5' lookin'.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Concept 1 is pretty sweet
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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I like 2 and 3.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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This would have been my vote, motor included.




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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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I would like to see manufacturers wars in Indy instead of everyone driving a Honda.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
I would like to see manufacturers wars in Indy instead of everyone driving a Honda.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Star
I would like to see manufacturers wars in Indy instead of everyone driving a Honda.
Agreed!

And Chris, I also concur with using the Panoz chassis (one of the best open wheel "lookers" in my opinion), but also want to see different engines!!
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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IRL, CART, and INDYCAR before them have played around with the semi-enclosed design like Concept #3 since the mid 90s at least. They never get further than sketches. Sadly, the more prominent a US racing series gets the more conservative it gets.

#1 and #2 look pretty much like slightly stylized IRL and F1 cars respectively.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil_Capri
Agreed!

And Chris, I also concur with using the Panoz chassis (one of the best open wheel "lookers" in my opinion), but also want to see different engines!!
I would love to see multiple manufacturers for engines as well. I was just waving the Ford flag. I long for the days when the cars would sound like this...

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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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Swift's entries . . .

http://jalopnik.com/5466957/is-this-the-2012-indy-car










I really like #3/#4 (same)!
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil_Capri
Swift's entries . . .




I really like #3/#4 (same)!
I do like those too, but I wonder how much lift the side pods and rear wing end plates would generate at a 70-90 yaw angle. Already too **** many of those cars getting airborne.

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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Funny that Dallara and Swift both release pictures just a few days before the Delta Wing is scheduled to be unveiled. I'm curious to see the Delta Wing, but I think it might just be too radically different. I'd also rather see a return to more horsepower, rather than significantly less. The Delta Wing would be in the area of 325-350hp compared to 650hp today, and 900+ in CART's heyday.

What I'd really like to see is multiple engine and chassis manufacturers. Maybe even open up the engine specs to allow different engine types... 2 liter turbo or 4 liter n/a, and let the manufacturers decide how many cylinders to run. Something similar to LMP1 engine rules would be cool, although it might be tough to mix and match engines and chassis if the engine is a stressed member.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DanS.02GT
Funny that Dallara and Swift both release pictures just a few days before the Delta Wing is scheduled to be unveiled. I'm curious to see the Delta Wing, but I think it might just be too radically different. I'd also rather see a return to more horsepower, rather than significantly less. The Delta Wing would be in the area of 325-350hp compared to 650hp today, and 900+ in CART's heyday.

What I'd really like to see is multiple engine and chassis manufacturers. Maybe even open up the engine specs to allow different engine types... 2 liter turbo or 4 liter n/a, and let the manufacturers decide how many cylinders to run. Something similar to LMP1 engine rules would be cool, although it might be tough to mix and match engines and chassis if the engine is a stressed member.
Agreed . . . .

I think this one is my favorite comcept. It was done a while ago, but I like it. Nice surface area for sponsors . . . .

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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil_Capri
Agreed . . . .

I think this one is my favorite comcept. It was done a while ago, but I like it. Nice surface area for sponsors . . . .


To each their own I think it looks pregnant.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rowdyram
To each their own I think it looks pregnant.
It kind of does, doesn't it!
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil_Capri
Agreed . . . .

I think this one is my favorite comcept. It was done a while ago, but I like it. Nice surface area for sponsors . . . .

Out of all of these. I really do like this one the best.

My second fav. would be the second concept at the top.

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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Now that I've seen the Delta Wing, I think I really like the Swift, Dallara, and whatever Lola comes up with.
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...-wing-project/
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DanS.02GT
Now that I've seen the Delta Wing, I think I really like the Swift, Dallara, and whatever Lola comes up with.
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...-wing-project/
Agree 100%!!!





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