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Zastava_101 2/25/10 03:04 PM

Congrats Carl Edwards
 
Congrats - Carl Edwards: from Carl Edwards Official facebook page: Kate and I have a beautiful baby girl! Anne Edwards is 8 lbs, 4oz and likes to eat and cry. all of the well wishes and support from everyone mean a lot to us. kates doing great, though shes having a little trouble burping annie....whole new world.
MORE: Anne Edwards was born February 24, 2010 in Columbia, Mo., at 12:44 p.m. (CT) weighing in at 8 lbs., 4 oz. Parents Carl and Kate Edwards, and baby Anne are all doing well. For anyone wanting to send flowers or gifts, Carl and Kate have requested that instead donations be made to the following charity: Back 2 Back Ministries, c/o Anne Edwards, P.O. Box 70, Mason, Ohio 45040. Donations will be used for an orphanage in Monterrey, Mexico.(RFR)(2-25-2010)(2-25-2010)

Orphan 3/7/10 03:58 PM

After today's race, I really don't like Mr.Carl. IMO it was just a cheap shot...I think I'll watch hockey next Sunday...

Zastava_101 3/7/10 04:20 PM

I guess you don't follow NASCAR very often?

What Edwards did to Keselowski today is nothing compared what Keselowski has been doing to him (and other drivers) in both Sprint and Nationwide series for the past 2-3 years.

jacostang 3/7/10 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Red Star (Post 5826648)
I guess you don't follow NASCAR very often?

What Edwards did to Keselowski today is nothing compared what Keselowski has been doing to him (and other drivers) in both Sprint and Nationwide series for the past 2-3 years.

Exactly, Edwards has been getting slammed and bashed on the track but oh wait now that he pays back a driver its a big deal, the Hippocrates(Nascar) are over whelming. That bump he gave him was nothing and the result is huge huge flaw in the design of that Car of Now where thats why they are ditching the rear wing.. Kesolowski said he "Lifted" to let Carl go by..BullS__T! he never lifted and drove right into the back of him..

BoogieNights 3/7/10 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by jacostang (Post 5826671)
Exactly, Edwards has been getting slammed and bashed on the track but oh wait now that he pays back a driver its a bug deal, the Hippocrates are over whelming. That bump he gave him was nothing and the result is huge huge flaw in the design of that Car of Now where thats why they are ditching the rear wing.. Kesolowski said he "Lifted" to let Carl go by..BullS__T! he never lifted and drove right into the back of him..

Ok yeah the wing is a little flaw in the design of these cars but you can clearly see that Carl did that on purpose. you can see his hands turn the car into Kesolowski car. Now it would have been smarter to do that WHEN THEY ARE NOT GOING ALMOST 200MPH. He should have saved it for a short track where the speeds are less. That was just a plain dumb decision on Carls part to spin him on the front stretch. He might have gotten away with it if it was on a turn.

jacostang 3/7/10 05:57 PM

I never said it wasnt on purpose anyone can clearly see that. Little Flaw? Right, completely taking the roof flap safety away from the cars when they are turned around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nlytg1bYI0

codeman94 3/7/10 06:05 PM

Carl was more than 100 laps down. He has no business taking out a car that is in the top 5. I love Carl, but that was W-R-O-N-G. I my opinion, He needs to be suspended. I hate to say it, but wathcing 5 races from home would teach him a valuble lesson.

What upset me even more was that he wasnt even remorseful...had he appologsed, and said that it was a stupid stunt, and he never should have done that, I think he could have saved himself. But nope.... he was arrogant and said somethig to the tune of "that should end it"...like he got that last word.... A**hole.

Sorry Carl, I love you..... but dude.... you were a Douche.

BoogieNights 3/7/10 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by jacostang (Post 5826691)
I never said it wasnt on purpose anyone can clearly see that. Little Flaw? Right, completely taking the roof flap safety away from the cars when they are turned around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nlytg1bYI0

Well here si the video from today that shows how big of flaw those wings are. I was only saying a little flaw due to that being the only flaw on the car as of right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcfycCm-ahM video

Zastava_101 3/7/10 06:26 PM

I guess everyone is forgetting how Brad took Carl out at Talladega last year ...

And what he did to him in many Nationwide races ...

I wish Denny Hamlin has balls to take Keselowski out like that, because spinning him and Keselowski continuing to race does not justify what Keselowski has been doing to everyone else.

He's the dirtiest driver in NASCAR, he's worst that Montoya and Steve Wallace put together. At least Montoya calmed down and Wallace does not hit people on purpose, he does it because he doesn't have any talent and drives a NASCAR only because his daddy owns a team.

UnrealFord 3/7/10 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by codeman94 (Post 5826697)
Carl was more than 100 laps down. He has no business taking out a car that is in the top 5. I love Carl, but that was W-R-O-N-G. I my opinion, He needs to be suspended. I hate to say it, but wathcing 5 races from home would teach him a valuble lesson.

What upset me even more was that he wasnt even remorseful...had he appologsed, and said that it was a stupid stunt, and he never should have done that, I think he could have saved himself. But nope.... he was arrogant and said somethig to the tune of "that should end it"...like he got that last word.... A**hole.

Sorry Carl, I love you..... but dude.... you were a Douche.

True

jacostang 3/7/10 06:42 PM

I agree with ya guys, it was stupid and dangerous for him to retaliate like this but it sure seems like people jump all over Carl....

Zastava_101 3/7/10 06:57 PM

Keselowski is saying that Edwards should be suspended for at least one race.

I don't remember him being suspended for all crashed he caused ...

jacostang 3/7/10 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Red Star (Post 5826718)
Keselowski is saying that Edwards should be suspended for at least one race.

I don't remember him being suspended for all crashed he caused ...

Thats exactly what I mean Zoran, the Hypocrites in Nascar are just unreal!

2k7gtcs 3/7/10 07:24 PM

I used to try to give Carl the benefit of the doubt. But the guy ****ed up today. You don't do that at 190mph. I think he should sit out a race. :bad:

And I am no Keslowski (sp?) fan and certainly not a Dodge fan by any means.

For some reason it always seems to be everyone elses fault but Carl's with alot of people. Today clinched it for me. I don't wish him harm at all, but he needs to take a look at things and see why he's involved with these things far more than anyone else.

I watched it live. It was blatant and on purpose. No denying it. I watched the interview afterward because I wanted to see what he'd say. He didnt' deny it. He just said he didn't mean to flip the guy. So I can infer that he did mean to wreck him. Lucky he didn't seriously hurt or kill somebody.

Zastava_101 3/7/10 07:28 PM

Am I, and Dave, the only people who saw Talladega's race last year?

2k7gtcs 3/7/10 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Red Star (Post 5826731)
Am I, and Dave, the only people who saw Talladega's race last year?

I saw it Zoran. And we disagreed about it then too. Keslowski held his line and Carl didn't clear his front fender. Carl tried to force him below the line but he couldn't go because that would cost him his position. He did not turn up into him.

Carl just needs to take up dempolition derby or something. Besides as a racer he's been sucking pretty hard of late. Maybe when he can't win he'd rather wreck people. Sonuds like a personailty problem to me.

For Carl. Not you of course. :nice:

Zastava_101 3/7/10 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs (Post 5826729)
For some reason it always seems to be everyone elses fault but Carl's with alot of people.

Actually people usually blame Carl.
They blamed him last year for Talladega's wreck and they blame him for todays wreck.
He did cause todays wreck, but he didn't do anything that Keselowski didn't do to him in the past.

And Keselowski does not have any friends on the track simply because he wrecks everyone.

I watched all Nationwide races last year and whenever there was a crash - chances were high that Keselowski (and Steve Wallace) were involved.

If anything, I'm sure Denny Hamlin took Carl out and bought him a drink after todays race. :grin:

2k7gtcs 3/7/10 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by Red Star (Post 5826733)
Actually people usually blame Carl.
They blamed him last year for Talladega's wreck and they blame him for todays wreck.
He did cause todays wreck, but he didn't do anything that Keselowski didn't do to him in the past.

And Keselowski does not have any friends on the track simply because he wrecks everyone.

I watched all Nationwide races last year and whenever there was a crash - chances were high that Keselowski (and Steve Wallace) were involved.

If anything, I'm sure Denny Hamlin took Carl out and bought him a drink after todays race. :grin:

Well. I don't watch the Nationwide races so I can't comment on those. I ahve no idea what goes on there.

Like I said. I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm not a fan of either. Today I was pulling for 9 and 17. But mostly 9.

Zastava_101 3/7/10 08:07 PM

I'm Edwards fan (he's my second favorite driver, behind Kenseth) and the accident today was his fault, no doubt about that, but I think Keselowski got what he deserved.

Moosetang 3/8/10 12:53 AM

Carl was definitely giving him the business, but no worse than goes on all the time in NASCAR. Without the wing on the COT Brad spins, probably bounces off the wall, and NASCAR odoes the secret happy dance as people tune in to watch these two go round and round the rest of the year. With the wing he does a flip and it's the end of the world. NASCAR can't actively promote full-contact racing and then be surprised when this happens.

Carl should take whatever punishment he gets with minimum comment, be the classier guy, and move on. If Brad comes back at him later, that's the time to worry about him.

I just wish someone had the nuts to do that to Johnson.


P.S. On the 100+ laps down thing:
This is something that DW has mentioned offhand at times: letting guys that far down come out and run around is inherently dangerous. First, their cars obviously aren't up to snuff or they wouldn't be in that situation. Second, you've got a guy in that car who was hoping to make a bid for the win just sitting there and stewing while a race happens without him. And all this so he can bump up a couple spots in the final order. NASCAR should have a cutoff of X number of laps down (double digits) after which a car is automatically retired from scoring and barred from returning to the track.

jacostang 3/8/10 09:38 AM

The fact is there is a huge flaw in these cars and NASCAR is just hoping and praying that they get the thing off the back of the car before someone else goes flying...The big wing renders the roof flaps inept at high speeds..

Zastava_101 3/8/10 09:49 AM

They're working on a spoiler which will replace the wing.
Testing should start later this month and they should start using it before the Chase.

2k7gtcs 3/8/10 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Moosetang (Post 5826846)
P.S. On the 100+ laps down thing:
This is something that DW has mentioned offhand at times: letting guys that far down come out and run around is inherently dangerous. First, their cars obviously aren't up to snuff or they wouldn't be in that situation. Second, you've got a guy in that car who was hoping to make a bid for the win just sitting there and stewing while a race happens without him. And all this so he can bump up a couple spots in the final order. NASCAR should have a cutoff of X number of laps down (double digits) after which a car is automatically retired from scoring and barred from returning to the track.

Agreed. I know they have a minimum speed threshold, but there also needs to be a limit on laps down. I know why they do it. Because some other guy might wreck with 100 to go and you can still pass him in the standings if he never goes back on the track, but something still needs to be done.


Originally Posted by jacostang (Post 5826953)
The fact is there is a huge flaw in these cars and NASCAR is just hoping and praying that they get the thing off the back of the car before someone else goes flying...The big wing renders the roof flaps inept at high speeds..

Agreed x 1,000,000


Originally Posted by Red Star (Post 5826963)
They're working on a spoiler which will replace the wing.
Testing should start later this month and they should start using it before the Chase.

They need to hurry up before one of these cars goes into the fence and parts go into the grandstands.

BoogieNights 3/8/10 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs (Post 5826967)
Agreed. I know they have a minimum speed threshold, but there also needs to be a limit on laps down. I know why they do it. Because some other guy might wreck with 100 to go and you can still pass him in the standings if he never goes back on the track, but something still needs to be done.

I know back in the day if a car was behind that far and they knew that they couldnt advance anymore the team would actually have the driver take it to the garage for the rest of the day. No need to tear up a car if you are going to stay in the same spot.





They need to hurry up before one of these cars goes into the fence and parts go into the grandstands.
I believe Talladega Carl Edwards went into the catch fence and parts went into the stands already.

Rather B.Blown 3/8/10 01:16 PM

This is what they wanted. NASCAR may feign outrage over what happened yesterday, but I can guarantee they are high fiving behind closed doors. NASCAR is on a downward spiral, just look at the huge number of empty seats in the stands at races that were sold out a couple of years ago. Stuff like this draws free media publicity, and creates a rivalry that people will tune in to see what happens next (much like pro wrestling). It had become an orchestrated soap opera.

Heck, they admitted it, and even encouraged it last month..


Jan 2010, NASCAR is relaxing some of its rules this season, and encouraging drivers to show more aggression and emotion, in large part to answer a growing fan sentiment that the series had gone stale. "There's an age old saying in NASCAR that 'If you ain't rubbing, you ain't racing,' " NASCAR president Mike Helton said on Thursday. "I think that's what the NASCAR fan, the NASCAR stakeholders all bought into, and all expect."

"We will put it back in the hands of drivers, and we will say 'Boys, have at it and have a good time,' " vice president of competition Robin Pemberton said on Thursday.

Fans were incensed that the rough and tumble series they once loved had been molded into boring, follow-the-leader racing, and their favorite drivers had become too vanilla. It wasn't until last autumn -- when Hamlin waged a monthslong feud with up-and-comer Brad Keselowski, and Tony Stewart and Juan Pablo Montoya intentionally wrecked each other in the season finale -- that NASCAR finally saw the lift the emotions and personalities can deliver to the series.



Sounds to me like they got exactly what they wanted, if you are encouraging the behavior how can you punish someone for doing it? If they want a soap opera, why not go all out? Instead of driver introductions, have them all come out and have a s**t talking session before the race like wrestling. Then set up a boxing ring next to the winners circle with 3 round matches after the race for the ones that are pissed off at each other from on track incidents. Then have the winner box a kangaroo that's dressed up in a cape and tights. :D

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jacostang 3/8/10 01:47 PM

I agree with that also! I am waiting to see the NASCAR (Hipocrits) Officials and see how they handle this one.

Knight Rider 3/8/10 02:33 PM

BK was just asking for it. But an old school fist fight would have been better:grin:

I defend Carl Edwards :nice:

And yes those wings have got to go

2k7gtcs 3/8/10 04:28 PM

So if Edwards robs a bank and shoots the teller, he's still all good, huh?

Teller had it coming. That's Carls money. He deserves it.

Moosetang 3/8/10 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs (Post 5827107)
So if Edwards robs a bank and shoots the teller, he's still all good, huh?

Teller had it coming. That's Carls money. He deserves it.

If Carl Edwards was standing in a bank when a teller walked up, put a gun to his head, and demanded that Carl put all his money in the vault, then yes.

2k7gtcs 3/8/10 04:39 PM

Spy photos of Nascar's COF...Car of the future...
http://upload.ecvv.com/upload/Produc...6152217233.jpg

Zastava_101 3/8/10 04:53 PM

Which one is Ford? The blue one?

Orphan 3/8/10 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Red Star (Post 5826648)
I guess you don't follow NASCAR very often?

What Edwards did to Keselowski today is nothing compared what Keselowski has been doing to him (and other drivers) in both Sprint and Nationwide series for the past 2-3 years.


How long have you been watching NASCAR?

Because this..."For some reason it always seems to be everyone elses fault but Carl's with alot of people. Today clinched it for me. I don't wish him harm at all, but he needs to take a look at things and see why he's involved with these things far more than anyone else.

I watched it live. It was blatant and on purpose. No denying it. I watched the interview afterward because I wanted to see what he'd say. He didnt' deny it. He just said he didn't mean to flip the guy. So I can infer that he did mean to wreck him. Lucky he didn't seriously hurt or kill somebody"... is what I saw. Did you not see the previous lap where Carl almost took himself out on the wall just to "get back" at BK? In last years Talladega's race where was BK going to go? Beneth the yellow line? C'mon...."Carl tried to force him below the line but he couldn't go because that would cost him his position. He did not turn up into him."

Anyway I didn't think this post would turn out like this...Anyone for a beer and a 'dog?

2k7gtcs 3/8/10 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Red Star (Post 5827119)
Which one is Ford? The blue one?

:rofl2:


Yeah. They still got to put the stickers on them so you can tell who's who.

Zastava_101 3/8/10 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Orphan (Post 5827133)
How long have you been watching NASCAR?

Because this..."For some reason it always seems to be everyone elses fault but Carl's with alot of people. Today clinched it for me. I don't wish him harm at all, but he needs to take a look at things and see why he's involved with these things far more than anyone else.

I watched it live. It was blatant and on purpose. No denying it. I watched the interview afterward because I wanted to see what he'd say. He didnt' deny it. He just said he didn't mean to flip the guy. So I can infer that he did mean to wreck him. Lucky he didn't seriously hurt or kill somebody"... is what I saw. Did you not see the previous lap where Carl almost took himself out on the wall just to "get back" at BK? In last years Talladega's race where was BK going to go? Beneth the yellow line? C'mon...."Carl tried to force him below the line but he couldn't go because that would cost him his position. He did not turn up into him."

Anyway I didn't think this post would turn out like this...Anyone for a beer and a 'dog?

2002 or so.

It seems to me that when Keselowski wrecks everyone else, "it's racing accident. It happens".

Yet when somebody does that to him - that driver should be suspended for attempted murder.

Carl did it on purpose, he didn't deny it and nobody thinks that it was accidental.

All I'm saying it - What goes around, comes around.
Carl didn't wreck Burton or Kenseth or another clean driver. He wrecked Keselowski who's currently the dirtiest driver in NASCAR.

Glenn 3/9/10 05:37 AM

he didn't do anything that hasn't been done a 1000 times. The result was just a little different than normal :)

BoogieNights 3/9/10 07:51 AM

See y'all want to bring up when they got together back in the spring race at Taladega well here is an exerpt from NASCAR.com about that lil episode............



The two drivers have a muddled past, with Keselowski having turned Edwards and sent his car airborne and into the catchfence at Talladega Superspeedway last spring as they both raced for a win. Edwards said after that incident that it was at least partially his fault for coming down on Keselowski, and that Keselowski merely did what he had to do to win the race. Edwards seemed to blame the horrific wreck, which caused some injuries to fans in the stands, more on restrictor-plate racing than the driving of Keselowski.

Pemberton indicated that Edwards more or less admitted in the post-race meeting with NASCAR officials that he intended to wreck Keselowski, but that he did not mean to send him airborne. Keselowski's car ended up landing upside down, nearly crushing in the driver's side of the roof, and was completely destroyed in the aftermath.

Earlier, Edwards spoke briefly with the media and attempted to explain his thinking.

"Brad knows the deal between him and I," Edwards said. "The scary part was his car went airborne, which was not at all what I expected. At the end of the day, we're out here to race and people have to have respect for one another and I have a lot of respect for people's safety.

"I wish it wouldn't have gone like it did, but I'm glad he's OK and we'll just go on and race some more and maybe him and I won't get in any more incidents together. That would be the best thing."

So from what I read Edwards really cant get "revenge" for that episode.

2k7gtcs 3/9/10 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Red Star (Post 5827176)
2002 or so.

It seems to me that when Keselowski wrecks everyone else, "it's racing accident. It happens".

Yet when somebody does that to him - that driver should be suspended for attempted murder.

Carl did it on purpose, he didn't deny it and nobody thinks that it was accidental.

All I'm saying it - What goes around, comes around.
Carl didn't wreck Burton or Kenseth or another clean driver. He wrecked Keselowski who's currently the dirtiest driver in NASCAR.


I had to lol at the attempted murder remark Zoran. That was funny.

No one can explain rationally why they are a fan of a person or a team or on the other hand why they are not a fan. It just is. I'm certainly not criticizing you for being a fan of his or anyone for that matter. It's a race. So in that regard its just a game. Entertainment. Like football or maybe even wrestling to some degree. I was just expressing a view same as you but I'd never mean anything personal by it. And I'm pretty sure you know that after the years we've both been here.


:cheers:

jacostang 3/9/10 10:50 AM

Edwards gets probation!!! Yeah!!

http://www.nascar.com/

Knight Rider 3/9/10 04:04 PM

seems rational:nice:

cdynaco 3/9/10 05:36 PM

I'd never make it in nascar. Anybody 'rubs' me and bends my car - much less puts me into a wall - and I'm pulling a gun on the sob!

Zastava_101 3/9/10 07:53 PM

Something tells me this ain't over.

Especially since Carl can't do anything in the next 3 races.

Although I don't think they would ever suspend him. He's too big of a star.

2k7gtcs 3/9/10 07:58 PM

Well when it happens again, and it will they will be forced to give out the same punishment.

Looks like they are getting what they wanted. Now will people come out and sit in the seats?

Zastava_101 3/9/10 08:23 PM

As long as they give a Sprint Cup race to Milwaukee, I'll be in the seat closest to the track.

But I'll be cheering for #17.

StangMahn 3/10/10 06:49 AM

fighting on/off the track will never be as good as daytona in the early 80's when donny allison and yarborough got into it on the backstretch... "he went to hitting his nose with my fist" hahahaha

Zastava_101 3/10/10 08:58 AM

It was actually a 1979 Daytona 500.
First NASCAR race that was live on TV from beginning until the end.
And actually it was Bobby Allison, not Donny. Cale wrecked Donny, Bobby stopped to offer a ride to Donny and then started fighting with Cale.

jacostang 3/10/10 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by StangMahn (Post 5827823)
fighting on/off the track will never be as good as daytona in the early 80's when donny allison and yarborough got into it on the backstretch... "he went to hitting his nose with my fist" hahahaha

This is the event that rocketed NASCAR into the lime light and created the huge fan base they have now..IMO. Really there has not been any real drama in this sport for years, Johnson wins the cup and there was much rejoicing.....Yeah......

97svtgoin05gt 3/12/10 08:52 AM

F Johnson :nice:

vyto2 4/1/10 11:51 AM

Screw carl, he's a hack. :bonk:


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