Living in CA, up until a couple of years ago, you could not buy a new car in a different state because it did not conform to CA emission standards. You could not register it unless it had 7500 miles on the clock, they consider that a used car. They have since changed that law, but there are still issues about it. Somewhere on the car it must state, "50 State Emission" in the engine bay, some manufactures have that tag and others still do not. You are in for a big PITA without that sticker. Another great reason to live in CA

born550

 

I grew up in Cali and moved in '98 and will likely never go back.

 

2011 GT500's are 50 state emissions legal. Next?

 

Perhaps high level clearance is required to view such classified information.

 

I was merely pointing out it is not always that easy to get a new car into CA, if the GT500 have a sticker, then great. I never looked as I was always looking at CA cars.

born550

 

Fool yourself as you may, in the end a blue collar muscle car as the GT500 is not for you.

A sophisticated and refined taste such as yours deserves the likes of the perceived perfection of a European sports car. The M series might be a nice fit, available in coupe, sedan, or vert and as an added bonus a embroiled cap and color matching cotton sweater are provided to newbies to ensure rubbing elbows with its elite membership is a gentle and pleasant experience. Add the 0.9% APR and it's a no brainer.

 

1 BULLITT as you may think you know me and whats best for me, I'm the best judge of that, but thanks for the concern. I really don't care about labels as much as you do. Blue Collar, sophisticated and refined is all BS, a car is a car and what someone finds important about it, is their own personal choice. I never came here and flamed anyone, unlike you, that took shots at every opportunity. That's fine, if that's what you have to do to feel good about yourself, then do what you have to.

I appreciated everyone who offer their sincere opinions and wish you luck with your cars.

born550

 

Look at that list. What do all those cars have in common (with exception of the M3)? Weight. The GT500 is a pig. If it was at least 500lbs lighter, it would be on that list for sure. Its got the power, but with the weight, the handling goes out the window. This is also the same reason the Camaro and Challenger arent on there either. The camaro is too heavy, and the challenger is worse and cant handle for ****. Those are not track cars in any sense of the word. They can go straight, and look pretty at a show, but thats pretty much it.

 

Unlike you I don't need a chorus of approval to stamp or be convinced on what I like or know, and certainly not from a magazine's list. Your intentions were true from the title of this thread so ask and you shall receive. Crying about it will not change a thing.

Would you have been interested in the GT500 which you appear to know very little about, there would have been a different approach from the start. Which brings up your test drives and subsequent expert analysis. There is no way, with any car, not broken in, one can come to a firm and intelligent conclusion after a few blocks or miles in a control enviroment on what a car is all about regardless of the model or manufacturer, let alone the fact dealers are very apprehensive and guarded in providing joy rides in their high end cars specially if the notion of non commitment is detected. It's a contradiction to be asking top money plus ADMs for a high performance car in demand while allowing that very same car to become a dealer demo. Hence, you either won the lotto with not one but three high performance cars at you disposal or you have fed a lot of, as you so congenially posted, BS.

 

You can say whatever you want, I test drove everyone of those cars. I knew what everyone else knew about the GT500 from reading article but not test driving the car. What are you the only authority on driving cars and writing your opinions? I never stated I beat on the cars and in fact the only car I drove a little harder was the Porsche because it was broken in already and the owner was OK with it. I'm middle aged and not some punk kid that want to go on a joy ride just to light up the tires. Your statement regarding cars not broken in that you can't come to a " intelligent conclusion" is ridiculous. In fact, 4 out of the 6 cars I test drove the salesman wanted me drive it harder than I was and the Ford Salesman drove it first and beat on it much harder than I did. I came here looking for some honest and intelligent post, what do I get, your narrow minded thinking. Your just the typical forum posting troll, you have offered nothing to this thread but your troll banter.

 

MY, my, my! Such graceful elegance and composure only to lose it in a couple of posts.

I need not post my credentials when it comes to Mustangs and SVT but if I did you would need a lot longer list than the one you posted just to squeeze in.

We'll let the membership decide who is who around here. There quite a few TMS enthusiasts I've helped in realizing their Mustang dreams without any personal gain or interest which are likely not to make a fly by the favorite. That's right. Those hard to find SE's which seem elusive and distant to you, I have a knack for finding them. I am either good or lucky and as previously established you are aware there is no such thing as luck.

 

It's very interesting the GT500 - or any Mustang - is missing from C&D's list given the improvements for '11. Heck, I'd even pit my '08 Bullitt or Shelby GT against most of those cars listed.

That being said, I picked up a Spyder two months ago. I have to agree with with C&D on this one. It's an awesome car and probably the best all around sports car I've ever driven or owned.

 

Dig-It Racing tell me about your Spyder. Do you have the PDK or the manual? Are you planning on tracking the car? I was very impressed with the Spyder when I test drove it.

born550

 

PM sent.

 

because it's too heavy and larg?? hum... the gt-r is about the same weight of the shelby...let me think.. the lotus since day one it's a car born for the track there's none on the roads! even with this results i would be extremely happy to own one >>shelby<<. in any color i wouldn't care!

 

You right it is as heavy as the GT500, the difference is 1, all wheel drive, putting 485 HP to all 4 wheels is a huge advantage for traction and handling. 2, twin turbo's, you don't have to worry about turbo lag, You have boost across the entire rev range. It is also only offered in an auto, auto will out perform manuals any day, auto's are just to fast with shifting. If I had 85K, it would be in my garage, but it was just to much money for me.

I totally agree with what you said about the Lotus, bare bones track car only.

born550

 

The difference is lack of knowledge and awareness in absence of mentioning ignorance.

The combination of power, torque, and individual suspension vs its ratio to weight equals downward force of gravity better known as g-force. The GT500 is pulling 1G (g-force) out of the box without any aftermarket upgrades which is not good enough to compete in F1 racing but it's good enough to please most any weekend racer, or amateur.

 

and what's your opinion on the vw gti that cost half as much as the shelby,only 200hp and pulling well about 88G? and front wheel drive... if it handles better than a shelby than it should be good for all of us?

 

thanks born 550 !i see you're on my side well appreciated.

 

I don't even understand your point? Are you saying the VW will perform better than the Shelby? At what? I'm sure it a well handling car around town but 200hp isn't going to give you much seat of your pants fun.

The 2011 GT500 is an awesome performer. The handling has been much improved over the years. My 08 GT500 feels a bit crude by comparison. And I was amazed at the power of this car. I took one for a test drive on Friday and I had it up to 140mph in what seemed like a blink of an eye and the car was not anywhere near it's limit, it still felt like it had lots to give. It held the corners very well at speed.
If someone is wanting a fine performing car there are no drawbacks to the 2011 GT500.