Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords' write-up of the 2013 GT500
I hope this isn't a repost. If you get the magazine, it's old news, but it's always cool to get some insight of the 2013 GT500's development process as well as Evan Smith's impressions of the 650-horse beast.
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...her/index.html "While the '07-'11 GT500s are fast machines, launching one can be a challenge, especially with stock tires. For the '13, Ford solved this problem with the introduction of Launch Control and Traction Control systems to maximize acceleration with minimal or, in most cases, zero slip. And believe us, the acceleration will quench even the thirstiest horsepower junkies. We got to experience these driver aids, and they are nothing short of amazing." "The rev control is not just a gimmick. It will offer a tunable starting-line rpm limiter, allowing you to coordinate launch rpm with the surface and tires you're running to achieve the best possible acceleration. In essence, the driver will be staged on the line (be it at the track or on the street) and with the clutch down, you will plant the throttle to the floor. The engine will hold at a pre-set rpm, and when it is time to go, the driver simply releases the clutch smooth and quick. Your GT500 will accelerate rapidly in a controlled manner, with the LC/TC preventing (or at least seriously limiting) wheelspin. After seeing the system in action, we can report that it performs at the level of even the best quarter-mile hot shoes." "So, how quick will it go in the quarter-mile? We estimate that the 650hp GT500 will be capable of running 11.70s to 11.60s at well above 120 mph in bone-stock trim. In optimal conditions, perhaps quicker and faster. And with 4.30s and sticky tires, low 11s or even 10s could be possible!" |
STV deserves compliments for taming this beast. This is one pony worthy of being called the best Mustang ever.
Cheers to the lucky ones who get their hands on one. |
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(however I think changing to 4.30's would defeat the gearing improvements made for consistent launches and we're back to square one...) |
Originally Posted by cdynaco
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:nice:
(however I think changing to 4.30's would defeat the gearing improvements made for consistent launches and we're back to square one...) |
Originally Posted by MARZ
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I have a feeling it's going to surprise those writing off the 2013 GT500 in comparison to the Camaro ZL1.
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Originally Posted by speedrx
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I don't see many people writing off the '13 GT500 in comparison to the ZL1, actually it is quite the opposite. Most ZL1 buyers were shocked by the announcement of a 650 hp Mustang and are trying to figure out how they will compete now.
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Originally Posted by speedrx
(Post 6235916)
I don't see many people writing off the '13 GT500 in comparison to the ZL1, actually it is quite the opposite. Most ZL1 buyers were shocked by the announcement of a 650 hp Mustang and are trying to figure out how they will compete now.
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Originally Posted by 1 COBRA
(Post 6235706)
STV deserves compliments for taming this beast. This is one pony worthy of being called the best Mustang ever.
Cheers to the lucky ones who get their hands on one. I wouldnt count out the GT500 in ANY side by side comparo with the ZL1 if I were a betting man. NO ONE has run them side by side so we will have to wait for that but all I am saying is that just because the road gets twisty dont think the GT500 is chopped liver :jester: |
Originally Posted by Stinger1982
(Post 6236370)
... just because the road gets twisty don't think the GT500 is chopped liver.
I am sold on SVT, their efforts, and the enthusiasm they share with their fans. |
Easy guys, Al O chief engineer of the camaro program has done "simulations"... and the ZL1 will be faster...
"We've done simulations. We predict that the ZL1 will be quicker to 60 than the [2013] GT500." |
Lol at that picture. Did you make that.
Thanks for the kind words about the dedicated people at SVT |
Originally Posted by fdjizm
(Post 6236407)
Easy guys, Al O chief engineer of the camaro program has done "simulations"... and the ZL1 will be faster...
http://i40.tinypic.com/2rly90h.jpg for some reason I want the camaro guy to say "its got a hemi" |
Originally Posted by Stinger1982
(Post 6236370)
They are awesome to drive. A lot of blood sweat and tears went into this car I can assure you.
I wouldnt count out the GT500 in ANY side by side comparo with the ZL1 if I were a betting man. NO ONE has run them side by side so we will have to wait for that but all I am saying is that just because the road gets twisty dont think the GT500 is chopped liver :jester: |
Originally Posted by Stinger1982
(Post 6236463)
Lol at that picture. Did you make that.
Thanks for the kind words about the dedicated people at SVT |
I don't mean to disparage the GT500 on anything but a quarter mile, but rather was trying to say that the only place the ZL1 *might* have an advantage is through the corners. I don't know that, but that is the one area that the car might be able to match or better the GT500. With 70 more hp and ~200 fewer lbs, there is simply NO WAY the ZL1 stock could hope to match or best a GT500 stock. The power/weight ratio is absolute. With the adjustable launch control (by the way, that has to be my favorite new aspect on the car), there's no reason for anyone, even a noob, to leave the horsepower in rubber stripes on the road. Get the power to the road, and that ZL1 never beats the GT500.
To me, the fact that the Shelby can and will be able to hold a line better than it ever has before is a huge dump of icing on the 650hp cake for me. I actually do plan on taking mine to road courses, and am very much looking forward to it. |
the Camaro faithful on Camaro5 are already saying the ZL1 will beat the GT500 because the car can't put the power to the road. I laugh because we don't have any idea if SVT has solved this issue for sure or not..... only they really know at this point until someone gets to REALLY flog this car besides the SVT engineers
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Were the "simulations" done before or after the extra 100 hp, LC, etc.? Might make a little difference in the results...
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Originally Posted by MyStang2010GB
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the Camaro faithful on Camaro5 are already saying the ZL1 will beat the GT500 because the car can't put the power to the road. I laugh because we don't have any idea if SVT has solved this issue for sure or not..... only they really know at this point until someone gets to REALLY flog this car besides the SVT engineers
They are so blinded they will believe anything. |
Originally Posted by fdjizm
(Post 6236991)
Meanwhle two videos show wheel hop and wheelspin on actual driving with the ZL1 :lol:
They are so blinded they will believe anything. Wha.....really ??? As to this whole ring and track thing.....show of hands of how many people are going to get a Zl1 or a Gt500 and ship it off to Germany to run the ring ? I'll be here waiting on the answers... |
Originally Posted by Ninjak
(Post 6237032)
This. Already the excuses are...."oh its on a stock tire...put some better rubber out back and its 11"s all day !"
Wha.....really ??? As to this whole ring and track thing.....show of hands of how many people are going to get a Zl1 or a Gt500 and ship it off to Germany to run the ring ? I'll be here waiting on the answers... I guarantee the '13 GT500 would be very competitive if they wanted to officially race it against the ZL1, same driver, same conditions, etc. As mentioned, this is virtually irrelevant to anyone buying one in the States and competing on the street. |
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