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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 07:19 AM
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GT500 head to head with ZL1

I think this chart tells it all, clearly we can see who the winner is.



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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 08:45 AM
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I think this chart tells it all, clearly we can see who the winner is.



At least the ZL1 pitched a shutout in one finals category
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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Dang that chart brings a tear to my eye! Poor zl1
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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cant wait to spread this all around Facebook
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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yeap this was created by a guy on SVTP....good stuff...facts dont lie
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Whammer
I think this chart tells it all, clearly we can see who the winner is.
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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This same chart was posted on that camaro5 board. Of course it was claimed as nonsense. They still say the zL1 is the best all round car and clearly won all tests. lol.
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 05:44 PM
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Thats the same excuse S2000 owners use...........
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 09:48 PM
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love it!!!
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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I would personally pick the Shelby over the Camaro EVERY TIME. First, it's a Mustang. Second, it's a Shelby (not like he had a lot of involvement, but still a Shelby). Third HORSEPOWER. Fourth TORQUE. Fifth ACCELERATION.

All of that said the new ZL is an amazing car and I hope that the level of handling it has inspires our beloved Ford to make the next Shelby even better in the twisties. It's a great time to be a muscle car lover in AMERICA!!!
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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I agree with Eric. I love love love the new Shelby GT500. What an amazing Mustang, and sure to please everyone lucky enough to own one. I can't wait to see one at my next track day, I hope I don't embarass myself gushing over it. However, that being said, I've read the comparisons and seen the videos. It appears that the Shelby exhibits some brake weakness after hard driving, which hampers lap times after the first great lap. I hope this is a pre-production issue, and nothing more.

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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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GT500 and zl1 were on a track today in homestead in the hands of private shop owners who are very capable drivers....the zl1 even with some mods had heat soak issues the entire time. The GT500 had almost none....both braked and handled well. Looks like the mags as usual are blowing smoke and hiding the truth about the zl1...
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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not sure if this has been posted:
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by devious_stang
GT500 and zl1 were on a track today in homestead in the hands of private shop owners who are very capable drivers....the zl1 even with some mods had heat soak issues the entire time. The GT500 had almost none....both braked and handled well. Looks like the mags as usual are blowing smoke and hiding the truth about the zl1...
Thanks for the heads-up. From Van:

"We are done. The ZL1 was having heat soak issues and I didn't feel heat soak with the GT500 during the sessions. I have Zero brake fade. The ZL1 has Zero brake fade.

Phinhead got it right. They were impressed with the GT500 and feel like they have some improvements to make in the cooling system on the ZL1.

I'll add more later. I did ride one session with Erik and I was impressed with the Mag ride on turn in particular to turns 6 & 7.

Van
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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I was told when sharing this chart with a friend, (who drives a Camaro) that "I was surprised. Figured the smaller GT500 would win. Guess its just a muscle car. Not a sports car."

I just laughed in his face.
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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http://youtu.be/GmJ8-ISYsEU
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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Not too bad for a "one-trick pony" with an ox-cart SRA, devoid of the magical, magnetic shocks the ZL1 is "blessed" with.

It should also be noted that, despite the fact that Torq's ZL1 has an aftermarket, dual-fan Afco heat exchanger, it still reportedly suffered from extreme heat soak issues; Van's GT500, with its stock HE and intercooler, experienced no such issues. Van also reported that he had zero brake fade in his GT500, and he doesn't appear to be taking it easy around Homestead.

But, hey, the Camaro contingent can take solace knowing that they have more comfortable seats (though I have to question whether they're, in fact, "better" than the Recaros found in the GT500) and the ZL1's exhaust is more subdued -- exactly what the demographic buying this kind of car is after <sarcasm>.

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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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thanx man, was just gonna post that....not looking good for camaro land with their hollow mag victories....
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Old Jul 2, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MARZ
Revan Racing 2013 GT500 over takes TORQ 2012 ZL1 - YouTube

Not too bad for a "one-trick pony" with an ox-cart SRA, devoid of the magical, magnetic shocks the ZL1 is "blessed" with.

It should also be noted that, despite the fact that Torq's ZL1 has an aftermarket, dual-fan Afco heat exchanger, it still reportedly suffered from extreme heat soak issues; Van's GT500, with its stock HE and intercooler, experienced no such issues. Van also reported that he had zero brake fade in his GT500, and he doesn't appear to be taking it easy around Homestead.

But, hey, the Camaro contingent can take solace knowing that they have more comfortable seats (though I have to question whether they're, in fact, "better" than the Recaros found in the GT500) and the ZL1's exhaust is more subdued -- exactly what the demographic buying this kind of car is after <sarcasm>.
Never saw the "inside car" version with Van laughing maniacally.

I put the full 20 minute version up on my massive TV screen - awesome.
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Old Jul 2, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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that was the co-pilot laughing, not Van...yea he had a passenger, another 200 plus pounds
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