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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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Good news: not much bidding on Bullitts

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Cars-Tru...sadis=-1&_fpos=
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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I've been following them on eBay too. Only ones that have sold have been at or below MSRP. Well there was one about $200 over but I think it was bought by someone in England.

Early on when the dealers were trying for bids on an amount over MSRP some looked like they had been successful, but from what I saw every one of those was relisted.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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There is one dealer asking a close to $7K over of the MSRP. There is a link for asking the seller a question, so I did: "... I am wondering why so a low Buy It Now Price. Has it been damaged? Please provide details. TIA".

I've yet to receive a response.


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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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As long as there are still some to be had in Apr/May timeframe, I'll be happy.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Not much interest in Bullitts that we've seen, either, here at our dealership (we don't sell anything on eBay). We've only had 4 orders placed by customers. All are MSRP deals (no ADM's) on these, just like we did in '01 with all 8 of the Bullitts we got then.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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For those who missed it:

The dealer which I ordered the '08 Bullitt from in North Florida honors x-plan purchases. The savings are a little over $2,500 making it cheaper than invoice price on a Bullitt before options. No double talk, no story telling, no BS. I was in and out in 20 minutes. PM me if you want details.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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X-plan, as well as A/D/Z-plan is getting more and more common on Bullitts. Many dealers will honor these plans to qualified buyers as Ford kicks back a commission to the dealer that offsets some of the discount.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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It's surprising not to see more dealers hororing the plans on Mustangs, specially those which preach to be customer friendly. It's the old do as I say not as do ploy.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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It's surprising not to see more dealers hororing the plans on Mustangs, specially those which preach to be customer friendly. It's the old do as I say not as do ploy.
Most dealers will offer plan sales on regular V6 and GT Mustangs (like I will), but for the Bullitt, we are offering it at MSRP. Reason being, we will only get 2 maybe (one is a guarantee, the second should be soon). Now, a place like down in Texas that has over 20, then they should offer the plan on them, since they have so many.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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None of the 4 guys who ordered 08 Bullitts from us qualified for any of the plan sales, so all 4 are MSRP deals. However, we do such a huge number of plan deals, that I've never had the boss say "no" on a car that qualified for plan sales per Ford. The Bullitt is a cool car, but it hasn't generated so much buzz as to be excluded.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 05fordgt
Most dealers will offer plan sales on regular V6 and GT Mustangs (like I will), but for the Bullitt, we are offering it at MSRP.
That might the case now but it was not so for the 2005MY Mustangs. If not in demand and the particular vehicle is not the latest then the plans seem to be honored.

What determines the availability of the Bullitt Package on the 2008 Mustang GT Premium for the Ford dealers? I am curious why your dealer is limited only two Bullitt Packages while other dealers I've spoken to have no limitations.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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What determines the availability of the Bullitt Package on the 2008 Mustang GT Premium for the Ford dealers? I am curious why your dealer is limited only two Bullitt Packages while other dealers I've spoken to have no limitations.
Each week we get a Commodity Letter from Ford (it's actually online at Ford's dealer site). This letter outlines any equipment or models with restrictions for commodities required to build the vehicle. Bullitts have been restricted every week since Job 2, and this week's Mustang orders are restricted to 23% Bullitts with a footnote "do not exceed." The percentage can vary from week to week - up or down.

Hence, this week we can only get 1 out of 4 of our Mustang orders pulled for scheduling this week as a Bullitt. Each dealer has a different Mustang allocation for the total number of all Mustang orderable per month.

Some huge dealers may get 40 Mustangs per month (V6, GT, Bullitt, GT/CS, GT500 combined), so they can get about 10 per week which further breaks done to about 2 Bullitts (23%) this week, but there are just a handful of dealers so huge to have that kind of Mustang allocation.

Normal dealers may only get about 10-15 Mustangs per month, or less, so they can get about 2-4 per week, which means they may or may not be able to even order a Bullitt this(or several) weeks and may have to go a few weeks until enough other Mustangs have been ordered to get a Bullitt order pulled due to that 23% restriction.

Really small dealers may get so few Mustangs allocated that they may get just 1 or 2 Bullitts for the entire 6 month production run.

The dealer I work for is a medium sized dealer, relative to the national average and we've only had 3 Bullitt orders pulled by Ford for production so far. We have two more customer orders in the order banks (one for a customer, and one for me) that may not get pulled for quite some time.

In a perfect world, Ford would build anything ASAP for a customer order, and push back orders that are just for store inventory. Unfortunately, Ford (and most other auto manufacturers) do not do this.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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That might the case now but it was not so for the 2005MY Mustangs. If not in demand and the particular vehicle is not the latest then the plans seem to be honored.
When 05 Mustangs first started arriving, we priced them at $1,000 over invoice, which was about $1,000 less than MSRP. Sold the first wave same day they arrived. Seemed all other dealers were getting ADM's on them, so people gravitated our way. Second wave and the remainder of '05, we set our price at MSRP on GT's (closer to invoice on V6's) and were sold out most of the year.

We happily ordered 05 Mustangs (including GT's) on the various plans, but I noticed that Ford wasn't scheduling them as quickly as retail orders that weren't plan sales. So, even though Ford said plan sales were OK, they weren't as quick to build those.

Once Flat Rock was up to full speed building them, 05's started showing up quicker. However, most of the '05 model year we had about 20-30 Mustang GT's special ordered for customers at any given time, so it was 3-5 months to get one that first year of S197's.

The 2005 Mustang GT Convertibles were a nightmare. Not even in production until Job 2, so there was only a 1/2 model year for those. We ended up getting just 3 for the entire model year. Two retail orders at MSRP and one A-plan customer.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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............. but I noticed that Ford wasn't scheduling them as quickly as retail orders that weren't plan sales. So, even though Ford said plan sales were OK, they weren't as quick to build those.

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it's been obvious that Ford isn't building retail orders of the Bullitt as quick as stock orders.
Ask pretty much anyone who has special ordered one
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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In '05 a local smaller dealer was doing great business on Mustangs while larger local dealers had them sitting around much longer, because they were selling the '05 at and below MSRP. All the larger dealers applied ADMs.
I know a couple of car salesmen who ended up buying their personal Mustang from the smaller dealer because their own dealerships wouldn't give them a break on price. Especially convertibles.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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I got my '05 on the x-plan the first week of Feb '05. I did not realize at the time what a deal that was.
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
None of the 4 guys who ordered 08 Bullitts from us qualified for any of the plan sales, so all 4 are MSRP deals. However, we do such a huge number of plan deals, that I've never had the boss say "no" on a car that qualified for plan sales per Ford. The Bullitt is a cool car, but it hasn't generated so much buzz as to be excluded.
So although I fought for and won MSRP (thanx only to a letter after the sale that threatened more letters to CEO's), both the sales mgr and the store mgr told me that the reason they asked for ADM's was to cover the fact that Ford required them to buy 4 Mustang GT's to special order 1 Bullitt. I take it that was bull**** lies from both ****'s, correct?
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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George, I'm sorry to be asking a stupid question, but did you order a Bullitt to go along with the 500's?
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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So although I fought for and won MSRP (thanx only to a letter after the sale that threatened more letters to CEO's), both the sales mgr and the store mgr told me that the reason they asked for ADM's was to cover the fact that Ford required them to buy 4 Mustang GT's to special order 1 Bullitt. I take it that was bull**** lies from both ****'s, correct?
Well, there is some basis in fact for what they said about having to buy other Mustangs to get your Bullitt ordered. Re-read post #12 above about how commodity restrictions affect ordering Bullitts. But, that doesn't justify adding an ADM!!! Your dealer makes it sound like it's a punishment to have to order 4 GT's, when you know they'll make money on all of them, so ordering 4 GT's to get a Bullitt is just the way it is.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Well, there is some basis in fact for what they said about having to buy other Mustangs to get your Bullitt ordered. Re-read post #12 above about how commodity restrictions affect ordering Bullitts. But, that doesn't justify adding an ADM!!! Your dealer makes it sound like it's a punishment to have to order 4 GT's, when you know they'll make money on all of them, so ordering 4 GT's to get a Bullitt is just the way it is.
Thanx. That's pretty much where I bottom lined it with the dealer in our final argument to hold MSRP - if they were going to lose money then he should simply refund my money and not order any vehicles.
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