GT500 - 'SVT' de-badged? edit: NOT TRUE
2/17/06 | 12:26 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Svtstinger @ February 16, 2006, 11:11 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Ok, first of all Shelby didn't start it all. I gaurantee you there was many others that made high performance Mustangs before him, Shelby was a famouse race car driver & his modified Mustangs were quickly known because of the fact that he was famouse. SVT has gone farther with the performance of the Mustangs than Shelby ever did. Shelby's glory days were big but they soon ended, what has he done in the past 35 years? SVT has taken the Mustang & turned them into outstanding Cars. Shelby was basically just using Ford parts adding his own style to them. SVT wasn't created because of Shelby, they have no connection. The reason why SVT was created was because they wanted to make a high performance mustang for a affordable price. But it know seems that Ford is going against to what SVT stands for because of their need of sales. Shelby has been and will always be a way for Ford to sell their Mustangs for a higher price.
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Actually he made the first real high performance Mustang in '64 so he did technically start it all back then. Now the debate over did the chicken farmer come before the SVT egg in regards to this car I'm not getting into. They both have their part of Mustang performance history and I like them both. I'm just glad they are both still around for the Mustang enthusiasts like us.
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Ok, first of all Shelby didn't start it all. I gaurantee you there was many others that made high performance Mustangs before him, Shelby was a famouse race car driver & his modified Mustangs were quickly known because of the fact that he was famouse. SVT has gone farther with the performance of the Mustangs than Shelby ever did. Shelby's glory days were big but they soon ended, what has he done in the past 35 years? SVT has taken the Mustang & turned them into outstanding Cars. Shelby was basically just using Ford parts adding his own style to them. SVT wasn't created because of Shelby, they have no connection. The reason why SVT was created was because they wanted to make a high performance mustang for a affordable price. But it know seems that Ford is going against to what SVT stands for because of their need of sales. Shelby has been and will always be a way for Ford to sell their Mustangs for a higher price.
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Actually he made the first real high performance Mustang in '64 so he did technically start it all back then. Now the debate over did the chicken farmer come before the SVT egg in regards to this car I'm not getting into. They both have their part of Mustang performance history and I like them both. I'm just glad they are both still around for the Mustang enthusiasts like us.
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2/17/06 | 01:40 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Svtstinger @ February 17, 2006, 1:11 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Ok, first of all Shelby didn't start it all. I gaurantee you there was many others that made high performance Mustangs before him, Shelby was a famouse race car driver & his modified Mustangs were quickly known because of the fact that he was famouse. SVT has gone farther with the performance of the Mustangs than Shelby ever did. Shelby's glory days were big but they soon ended, what has he done in the past 35 years? SVT has taken the Mustang & turned them into outstanding Cars. Shelby was basically just using Ford parts adding his own style to them. SVT wasn't created because of Shelby, they have no connection. The reason why SVT was created was because they wanted to make a high performance mustang for a affordable price. But it know seems that Ford is going against to what SVT stands for because of their need of sales. Shelby has been and will always be a way for Ford to sell their Mustangs for a higher price.
[/b][/quote]Actually Carroll Shelby was the first one to start the high performance mustang. Carroll Shelby first put his name on a Mustang back in 1964 when he was asked to inject some high performance into the brand-new pony car. The result was the GT350R, a lightweight, handling-focused race car that earned the Mustang its first performance credentials.And continues to build high performane cars with various hp options up thru 800hp and up(you have the money,he'll build it classic cobras,mustangs,etc), with his own company, but for me,expensive is the only drawback.....Believe me,the man and his company are awesome,...and he is no light weight! He was the creator of the ac cobra and the building performance for the original GT-40 and daytona cobra.....he was in the race car business,..believe me. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img] He has a following second to none, before anyone else......Svt has also successfully carried the torch in performance in more recent years, and has grown big and has had an advantage of being able to use more modern technology's of today and has been very instrumental in carrying out in later years,.."affordable" (because they're part of Ford) performance vehicles and parts etc,one of them being the cobra mustang as you know from Ford......but the original brainchild for Ford in the injecting into the high performance market and actual race cars (ac cobras,shelbymustangs,cobra daytonas, gt-40 and such) was Carroll Shelby,...Ford hired out Carroll Shelby to do the job,....and he was incredibly successful for Ford racing and high performance muscle cars,....He is a proven living legend,...and has and deserves, alot of respect from amoung Ford, mustang and cobra enthusiasts from around the world! Even his competition respect him.....He is one of Ford's top, living legends period. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img] The cars with his name on it, are some of the most collectible high performanced American sports and muscle cars in the world......you say the name Shelby and people listen,...that's why Ford called him back just recently because his name sells,...and even though he might not have been as instrumental in the developing of the new Shelby GT500(svt was more this time),...you can best believe that if he had complete control from Ford to build todays Shelby Mustang,...with todays technology,....you would even be having something more radical(meaner, tougher,cool ) looking inside and outside of car with performance.......Thats why Gary Patterson who I personally know over at Carroll's business, (as he is second in command),...has stated to me that Carroll is talking with Ford as we speak on taking the new svt influenced Shelby,...and step it up a few notches,..and make it a "Real" Shelby influenced car,....with his performance and styling,...all others(aftermarkets and such) are just trying to copy,what the man himself started way back in the 60's...Done Deal!!!.... Together with Shelby and svt you have an unbeatable combination for Ford.....as they both have contributed alot to Ford's high performance and race cars past,present,..and hopefully future.
Ok, first of all Shelby didn't start it all. I gaurantee you there was many others that made high performance Mustangs before him, Shelby was a famouse race car driver & his modified Mustangs were quickly known because of the fact that he was famouse. SVT has gone farther with the performance of the Mustangs than Shelby ever did. Shelby's glory days were big but they soon ended, what has he done in the past 35 years? SVT has taken the Mustang & turned them into outstanding Cars. Shelby was basically just using Ford parts adding his own style to them. SVT wasn't created because of Shelby, they have no connection. The reason why SVT was created was because they wanted to make a high performance mustang for a affordable price. But it know seems that Ford is going against to what SVT stands for because of their need of sales. Shelby has been and will always be a way for Ford to sell their Mustangs for a higher price.
[/b][/quote]Actually Carroll Shelby was the first one to start the high performance mustang. Carroll Shelby first put his name on a Mustang back in 1964 when he was asked to inject some high performance into the brand-new pony car. The result was the GT350R, a lightweight, handling-focused race car that earned the Mustang its first performance credentials.And continues to build high performane cars with various hp options up thru 800hp and up(you have the money,he'll build it classic cobras,mustangs,etc), with his own company, but for me,expensive is the only drawback.....Believe me,the man and his company are awesome,...and he is no light weight! He was the creator of the ac cobra and the building performance for the original GT-40 and daytona cobra.....he was in the race car business,..believe me. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img] He has a following second to none, before anyone else......Svt has also successfully carried the torch in performance in more recent years, and has grown big and has had an advantage of being able to use more modern technology's of today and has been very instrumental in carrying out in later years,.."affordable" (because they're part of Ford) performance vehicles and parts etc,one of them being the cobra mustang as you know from Ford......but the original brainchild for Ford in the injecting into the high performance market and actual race cars (ac cobras,shelbymustangs,cobra daytonas, gt-40 and such) was Carroll Shelby,...Ford hired out Carroll Shelby to do the job,....and he was incredibly successful for Ford racing and high performance muscle cars,....He is a proven living legend,...and has and deserves, alot of respect from amoung Ford, mustang and cobra enthusiasts from around the world! Even his competition respect him.....He is one of Ford's top, living legends period. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img] The cars with his name on it, are some of the most collectible high performanced American sports and muscle cars in the world......you say the name Shelby and people listen,...that's why Ford called him back just recently because his name sells,...and even though he might not have been as instrumental in the developing of the new Shelby GT500(svt was more this time),...you can best believe that if he had complete control from Ford to build todays Shelby Mustang,...with todays technology,....you would even be having something more radical(meaner, tougher,cool ) looking inside and outside of car with performance.......Thats why Gary Patterson who I personally know over at Carroll's business, (as he is second in command),...has stated to me that Carroll is talking with Ford as we speak on taking the new svt influenced Shelby,...and step it up a few notches,..and make it a "Real" Shelby influenced car,....with his performance and styling,...all others(aftermarkets and such) are just trying to copy,what the man himself started way back in the 60's...Done Deal!!!.... Together with Shelby and svt you have an unbeatable combination for Ford.....as they both have contributed alot to Ford's high performance and race cars past,present,..and hopefully future.
2/20/06 | 03:02 AM
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I agree with you in a way stang22 and i take back what I said. I have more than 100% respect for Carroll. But, I personally think that Ford itself made the first high performance Mustang in 65, the K code mustang. Shelby turned that Mustang in 1965(the same year) into an even more hi performance mustang and it was the first year he ever put his name on a mustang, it was the GT350. I also agree that Shelby has made many high hp cars, one example would be the supercharged 66 GT350s(only 11 made). And, I forgot that in 83-93 Shelby was with Dodge making high performance cars for them, short & brief history of Carrol. He didn't only make big contributions to Ford, he was one of the person's making the Viper, which was supposed to be a modern day ac cobra.
I grew up watching the works of SVT, thats why I strongly support them. I have been there in 1st person view at what they do and have done, unlike with Shelby it's 3rd person. Even though I've only heard or read what Shelby has done, I love what he has contributed to the Mustang history. SVT has made many outstanding vehicles, from sport cars to sport trucks. Here's a short history of SVT in it their are other links to show the history of their models. They have gone even farther with the performance they advertise, the 03 cobra's were producing 430 hp stock but were ratted as 390 hp.
I have no problem with the new Cobra also being called Shelby, in a way I like it because I've always wanted a Shelby but they're way too expensive. The 07 Cobra is a combination of Shelby and SVT, and those are my most favorite tuners. The only problem I have is that SVT is getting minimal credit, they even took off the cobra name. I would have loved Shelby Cobra GT500, just like the concept's name. The cooperation of working together of these two is going to leave a big print not only in the history of Mustangs, but of Muscle cars. It would be good If Shelby would produce some aftermarket parts for the cobra and they could be under warranty by Ford, I'm sure alot of people would buy the parts. An aftermarket supercharger and some side scoops would be really nice modifications, even though you wont be needing a better supercharger [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img] , I'm sure with a pulley and chip it will more than satisfy the needs of alot of owners.
I grew up watching the works of SVT, thats why I strongly support them. I have been there in 1st person view at what they do and have done, unlike with Shelby it's 3rd person. Even though I've only heard or read what Shelby has done, I love what he has contributed to the Mustang history. SVT has made many outstanding vehicles, from sport cars to sport trucks. Here's a short history of SVT in it their are other links to show the history of their models. They have gone even farther with the performance they advertise, the 03 cobra's were producing 430 hp stock but were ratted as 390 hp.
I have no problem with the new Cobra also being called Shelby, in a way I like it because I've always wanted a Shelby but they're way too expensive. The 07 Cobra is a combination of Shelby and SVT, and those are my most favorite tuners. The only problem I have is that SVT is getting minimal credit, they even took off the cobra name. I would have loved Shelby Cobra GT500, just like the concept's name. The cooperation of working together of these two is going to leave a big print not only in the history of Mustangs, but of Muscle cars. It would be good If Shelby would produce some aftermarket parts for the cobra and they could be under warranty by Ford, I'm sure alot of people would buy the parts. An aftermarket supercharger and some side scoops would be really nice modifications, even though you wont be needing a better supercharger [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img] , I'm sure with a pulley and chip it will more than satisfy the needs of alot of owners.
2/20/06 | 06:03 AM
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good post stinger. I agree. Both groups deserve credit. I am glad they at least left the SVT stuff on the car. I honestly think the SVT Cobra will be back in the next 3 or 4 years. The Shebly thing will wear off. Until then, we should appreciate our opportunity to own a modern Shelby.
2/20/06 | 11:18 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Svtstinger @ February 20, 2006, 4:05 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
... I have no problem with the new Cobra also being called Shelby, in a way I like it because I've always wanted a Shelby but they're way too expensive. The 07 Cobra is a combination of Shelby and SVT, and those are my most favorite tuners. The only problem I have is that SVT is getting minimal credit...
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My objections to the Shelby name has been due to loyalty to SVT and the fact that it is being made harder for the SVT supporters to get their hands on the GT500. We deserve better.
... I have no problem with the new Cobra also being called Shelby, in a way I like it because I've always wanted a Shelby but they're way too expensive. The 07 Cobra is a combination of Shelby and SVT, and those are my most favorite tuners. The only problem I have is that SVT is getting minimal credit...
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My objections to the Shelby name has been due to loyalty to SVT and the fact that it is being made harder for the SVT supporters to get their hands on the GT500. We deserve better.
2/20/06 | 05:41 PM
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Sorry, but sticking the "Shelby" name on the GT-500 is an insult to the people at SVT. Shelby had next to nothing to do with the development of the GT-500. Shelby had his day, but it was 40 years ago. The Shelby name was forever tarnished when he sold out selling it to put on FWD, 4cyl Dodges.
2/20/06 | 08:22 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Svtstinger @ February 20, 2006, 6:05 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
The only problem I have is that SVT is getting minimal credit, they even took off the cobra name. I would have loved Shelby Cobra GT500, just like the concept's name. The cooperation of working together of these two is going to leave a big print not only in the history of Mustangs, but of Muscle cars. It would be good If Shelby would produce some aftermarket parts for the cobra and they could be under warranty by Ford, I'm sure alot of people would buy the parts. An aftermarket supercharger and some side scoops would be really nice modifications, even though you wont be needing a better supercharger [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img] , I'm sure with a pulley and chip it will more than satisfy the needs of alot of owners.
[/b][/quote]Well thanks for your post. Its really not Shelby's fault that there is not much attention given to the svt name,...But....That's strickly a marketing ploy by SVT and Ford themselves to have it the way it is,with badging,name,etc....And I really think its a very,very smart move for a couple of reasons,..the first being the new "retro design" that summons back the fond memories of high performance mustangs of the 60's,...ala Carroll Shelby,even before svt's different styling came aboard(and I know that svt was very instrumental in this new car,as Shelby's name was the only main influence contributed by Carroll)while SVT and Ford were and are,concentrating on the 60's retro style,...what better name to call it than a Shelby(and its true a Shelby Cobra GT500 would have sounded cooler),but the fact remains,that this was an incredible opportunity for Ford and SVT to bring back Carroll and the Shelby name,with its influenced throwback styling,not to mention limited runs of the supercar Ford GT!...and "YES", his company will be making aftermarket high performance goodies for the '07 Shelby as I stated in an earlier post(side scoops,engine mods,interior mods,etc)as I had talk to Gary Patterson(a friend of mine that works directly with Carroll)...then it'll be a "true shelby" with Carroll's true touches....Gary told me that he couldn't talk to me in detail about it yet ,as car hasn't been released yet and Carroll and Shelby Automotive are even trying to talk a deal with Ford with an Anniversary edition(40 yrs. since the 67 Shelby gt500) with Carroll putting all his magic on it with performance goodies galore...I for one can't wait to purchase the high performance items that Shelby will have through his company for the new GT500!!..And last but not least, its was also an incredible marketing ploy BY SVT and Ford not only to back down on the SVT name this time around and bring back Shelby,...but look for instance what the first production '07 Shelby GT500 went for on the auctioning block,...an overwhelming $600,000 dollars....there is no svt in history that will sell for that much(thats no dig)...I only say that , to say that it was an overwhelming victory for SVT and Ford to step their name down alittle and let Shelby's name take its place,especially with the retro styling of the 60's.....These will be around for only a short time and it'll be back to strickly svt cobra mustangs again I'm sure,...but for Now,..this was a Great Marketing move for Ford and SVT.....people have been lining up for this car in overwhelming numbers,because of the man(shelby mustang)...I love it,..huge marketing move,...its just too bad that they didn't make more of them,before greedy dealers get ahold of them,and give the rest of the svt cobra owners,a chance to get their's,because of their great loyalty to svt....but please understand that with initial sales of over 200,000 on the popular retro styled 05 mustang,...and to now bring back the heavy hitter name of Shelby,...I have to commend SVT and Fords for this! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img] You put the Shelby name with the retro mustang name,..and you have lightning!!(marketing and all)!! He has an incredible huge following,and even respect amoung his competition,thats second to none.
The only problem I have is that SVT is getting minimal credit, they even took off the cobra name. I would have loved Shelby Cobra GT500, just like the concept's name. The cooperation of working together of these two is going to leave a big print not only in the history of Mustangs, but of Muscle cars. It would be good If Shelby would produce some aftermarket parts for the cobra and they could be under warranty by Ford, I'm sure alot of people would buy the parts. An aftermarket supercharger and some side scoops would be really nice modifications, even though you wont be needing a better supercharger [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img] , I'm sure with a pulley and chip it will more than satisfy the needs of alot of owners.
[/b][/quote]Well thanks for your post. Its really not Shelby's fault that there is not much attention given to the svt name,...But....That's strickly a marketing ploy by SVT and Ford themselves to have it the way it is,with badging,name,etc....And I really think its a very,very smart move for a couple of reasons,..the first being the new "retro design" that summons back the fond memories of high performance mustangs of the 60's,...ala Carroll Shelby,even before svt's different styling came aboard(and I know that svt was very instrumental in this new car,as Shelby's name was the only main influence contributed by Carroll)while SVT and Ford were and are,concentrating on the 60's retro style,...what better name to call it than a Shelby(and its true a Shelby Cobra GT500 would have sounded cooler),but the fact remains,that this was an incredible opportunity for Ford and SVT to bring back Carroll and the Shelby name,with its influenced throwback styling,not to mention limited runs of the supercar Ford GT!...and "YES", his company will be making aftermarket high performance goodies for the '07 Shelby as I stated in an earlier post(side scoops,engine mods,interior mods,etc)as I had talk to Gary Patterson(a friend of mine that works directly with Carroll)...then it'll be a "true shelby" with Carroll's true touches....Gary told me that he couldn't talk to me in detail about it yet ,as car hasn't been released yet and Carroll and Shelby Automotive are even trying to talk a deal with Ford with an Anniversary edition(40 yrs. since the 67 Shelby gt500) with Carroll putting all his magic on it with performance goodies galore...I for one can't wait to purchase the high performance items that Shelby will have through his company for the new GT500!!..And last but not least, its was also an incredible marketing ploy BY SVT and Ford not only to back down on the SVT name this time around and bring back Shelby,...but look for instance what the first production '07 Shelby GT500 went for on the auctioning block,...an overwhelming $600,000 dollars....there is no svt in history that will sell for that much(thats no dig)...I only say that , to say that it was an overwhelming victory for SVT and Ford to step their name down alittle and let Shelby's name take its place,especially with the retro styling of the 60's.....These will be around for only a short time and it'll be back to strickly svt cobra mustangs again I'm sure,...but for Now,..this was a Great Marketing move for Ford and SVT.....people have been lining up for this car in overwhelming numbers,because of the man(shelby mustang)...I love it,..huge marketing move,...its just too bad that they didn't make more of them,before greedy dealers get ahold of them,and give the rest of the svt cobra owners,a chance to get their's,because of their great loyalty to svt....but please understand that with initial sales of over 200,000 on the popular retro styled 05 mustang,...and to now bring back the heavy hitter name of Shelby,...I have to commend SVT and Fords for this! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img] You put the Shelby name with the retro mustang name,..and you have lightning!!(marketing and all)!! He has an incredible huge following,and even respect amoung his competition,thats second to none.
2/22/06 | 05:04 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(stang22 @ February 20, 2006, 9:25 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Well thanks for your post. Its really not Shelby's fault that there is not much attention given to the svt name,...But....That's strickly a marketing ploy by SVT and Ford themselves to have it the way it is,with badging,name,etc....And I really think its a very,very smart move for a couple of reasons,..the first being the new "retro design" that summons back the fond memories of high performance mustangs of the 60's,...ala Carroll Shelby,even before svt's different styling came aboard(and I know that svt was very instrumental in this new car,as Shelby's name was the only main influence contributed by Carroll)while SVT and Ford were and are,concentrating on the 60's retro style,...what better name to call it than a Shelby(and its true a Shelby Cobra GT500 would have sounded cooler),but the fact remains,that this was an incredible opportunity for Ford and SVT to bring back Carroll and the Shelby name,with its influenced throwback styling,not to mention limited runs of the supercar Ford GT!...and "YES", his company will be making aftermarket high performance goodies for the '07 Shelby as I stated in an earlier post(side scoops,engine mods,interior mods,etc)as I had talk to Gary Patterson(a friend of mine that works directly with Carroll)...then it'll be a "true shelby" with Carroll's true touches....Gary told me that he couldn't talk to me in detail about it yet ,as car hasn't been released yet and Carroll and <span style="color:#FF0000">Shelby Automotive are even trying to talk a deal with Ford with an Anniversary edition(40 yrs. since the 67 Shelby gt500)</span> with Carroll putting all his magic on it with performance goodies galore...I for one can't wait to purchase the high performance items that Shelby will have through his company for the new GT500!!..And last but not least, its was also an incredible marketing ploy BY SVT and Ford not only to back down on the SVT name this time around and bring back Shelby,...but look for instance what the first production '07 Shelby GT500 went for on the auctioning block,...an overwhelming $600,000 dollars....there is no svt in history that will sell for that much(thats no dig)...I only say that , to say that it was an overwhelming victory for SVT and Ford to step their name down alittle and let Shelby's name take its place,especially with the retro styling of the 60's.....These will be around for only a short time and it'll be back to strickly svt cobra mustangs again I'm sure,...but for Now,..this was a Great Marketing move for Ford and SVT.....people have been lining up for this car in overwhelming numbers,because of the man(shelby mustang)...I love it,..huge marketing move,...its just too bad that they didn't make more of them,before greedy dealers get ahold of them,and give the rest of the svt cobra owners,a chance to get their's,because of their great loyalty to svt....but please understand that with initial sales of over 200,000 on the popular retro styled 05 mustang,...and to now bring back the heavy hitter name of Shelby,...I have to commend SVT and Fords for this! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img] You put the Shelby name with the retro mustang name,..and you have lightning!!(marketing and all)!! He has an incredible huge following,and even respect amoung his competition,thats second to none.
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I look forward to more parts/items from Shelby Automotive!!!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/drool.gif[/img]
That second part.... Where is George? How did I make it here before him? He usually has radar.
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Well thanks for your post. Its really not Shelby's fault that there is not much attention given to the svt name,...But....That's strickly a marketing ploy by SVT and Ford themselves to have it the way it is,with badging,name,etc....And I really think its a very,very smart move for a couple of reasons,..the first being the new "retro design" that summons back the fond memories of high performance mustangs of the 60's,...ala Carroll Shelby,even before svt's different styling came aboard(and I know that svt was very instrumental in this new car,as Shelby's name was the only main influence contributed by Carroll)while SVT and Ford were and are,concentrating on the 60's retro style,...what better name to call it than a Shelby(and its true a Shelby Cobra GT500 would have sounded cooler),but the fact remains,that this was an incredible opportunity for Ford and SVT to bring back Carroll and the Shelby name,with its influenced throwback styling,not to mention limited runs of the supercar Ford GT!...and "YES", his company will be making aftermarket high performance goodies for the '07 Shelby as I stated in an earlier post(side scoops,engine mods,interior mods,etc)as I had talk to Gary Patterson(a friend of mine that works directly with Carroll)...then it'll be a "true shelby" with Carroll's true touches....Gary told me that he couldn't talk to me in detail about it yet ,as car hasn't been released yet and Carroll and <span style="color:#FF0000">Shelby Automotive are even trying to talk a deal with Ford with an Anniversary edition(40 yrs. since the 67 Shelby gt500)</span> with Carroll putting all his magic on it with performance goodies galore...I for one can't wait to purchase the high performance items that Shelby will have through his company for the new GT500!!..And last but not least, its was also an incredible marketing ploy BY SVT and Ford not only to back down on the SVT name this time around and bring back Shelby,...but look for instance what the first production '07 Shelby GT500 went for on the auctioning block,...an overwhelming $600,000 dollars....there is no svt in history that will sell for that much(thats no dig)...I only say that , to say that it was an overwhelming victory for SVT and Ford to step their name down alittle and let Shelby's name take its place,especially with the retro styling of the 60's.....These will be around for only a short time and it'll be back to strickly svt cobra mustangs again I'm sure,...but for Now,..this was a Great Marketing move for Ford and SVT.....people have been lining up for this car in overwhelming numbers,because of the man(shelby mustang)...I love it,..huge marketing move,...its just too bad that they didn't make more of them,before greedy dealers get ahold of them,and give the rest of the svt cobra owners,a chance to get their's,because of their great loyalty to svt....but please understand that with initial sales of over 200,000 on the popular retro styled 05 mustang,...and to now bring back the heavy hitter name of Shelby,...I have to commend SVT and Fords for this! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img] You put the Shelby name with the retro mustang name,..and you have lightning!!(marketing and all)!! He has an incredible huge following,and even respect amoung his competition,thats second to none.
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I look forward to more parts/items from Shelby Automotive!!!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/drool.gif[/img]
That second part.... Where is George? How did I make it here before him? He usually has radar.
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2/22/06 | 09:37 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(stang22 @ February 20, 2006, 9:25 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
...That's strickly a marketing ploy by SVT and Ford themselves...
... And I really think its a very,very smart move...
... that this was an incredible opportunity for Ford and SVT...
... and "YES"...
... And last but not least, its was also an incredible marketing ploy BY SVT and Ford...
... but for Now,..this was a Great Marketing move for Ford and SVT...
... I have to commend SVT and Fords for this...
... and you have lightning!!(marketing and all)!! [/b][/quote]
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I can't wait to read the story of whenever you get to have sex for the first time.
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...That's strickly a marketing ploy by SVT and Ford themselves...
... And I really think its a very,very smart move...
... that this was an incredible opportunity for Ford and SVT...
... and "YES"...
... And last but not least, its was also an incredible marketing ploy BY SVT and Ford...
... but for Now,..this was a Great Marketing move for Ford and SVT...
... I have to commend SVT and Fords for this...
... and you have lightning!!(marketing and all)!! [/b][/quote]
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rofl2.gif[/img]
I can't wait to read the story of whenever you get to have sex for the first time.
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2/22/06 | 10:10 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(crazyhorse @ February 22, 2006, 6:34 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Didn't Amyb talk about a 40th ann edition?
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It was more like...
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... soliciting.
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Didn't Amyb talk about a 40th ann edition?
[/b][/quote]
It was more like...
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/33.gif[/img]
... soliciting.
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2/22/06 | 10:27 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(crazyhorse @ February 22, 2006, 6:34 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Didn't Amyb talk about a 40th ann edition?
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Yes she did Kevin. I PM'd her awhile back and she said she would post more info when she could. I'm hoping that time is coming soon. I need to know how much additional money I need to save up.
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Didn't Amyb talk about a 40th ann edition?
[/b][/quote]
Yes she did Kevin. I PM'd her awhile back and she said she would post more info when she could. I'm hoping that time is coming soon. I need to know how much additional money I need to save up.
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2/23/06 | 02:32 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(1 BULLITT @ February 23, 2006, 12:40 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
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I can't wait to read the story of whenever you get to have sex for the first time.
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[/b][/quote]I think I just did with my info from my last post! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana.gif[/img]
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I can't wait to read the story of whenever you get to have sex for the first time.
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[/b][/quote]I think I just did with my info from my last post! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana.gif[/img]
2/23/06 | 07:14 AM
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stang22,
I, too, think it was a good marketing ploy by Ford. But just because the "SVT" logo doesn't adorn the lower left corner of the tail doesn't mean this car doesn't have "SVT" written all over it.....and in the most important area - the engine!
As for the name "Cobra" not being on the Shelby....it is. It just isn't spelled out....the Cobra badging is known by all to say "This is a Cobra!" With only the lettering "SHELBY" and not the Cobra badging, this car wouldn't be the same to me. I love that Cobra badging and what it stands for!
I, too, think it was a good marketing ploy by Ford. But just because the "SVT" logo doesn't adorn the lower left corner of the tail doesn't mean this car doesn't have "SVT" written all over it.....and in the most important area - the engine!
As for the name "Cobra" not being on the Shelby....it is. It just isn't spelled out....the Cobra badging is known by all to say "This is a Cobra!" With only the lettering "SHELBY" and not the Cobra badging, this car wouldn't be the same to me. I love that Cobra badging and what it stands for!
2/23/06 | 04:40 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mrGT @ February 23, 2006, 10:17 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
stang22,
I, too, think it was a good marketing ploy by Ford. But just because the "SVT" logo doesn't adorn the lower left corner of the tail doesn't mean this car doesn't have "SVT" written all over it.....and in the most important area - the engine!
As for the name "Cobra" not being on the Shelby....it is. It just isn't spelled out....the Cobra badging is known by all to say "This is a Cobra!" With only the lettering "SHELBY" and not the Cobra badging, this car wouldn't be the same to me. I love that Cobra badging and what it stands for!
[/b][/quote]I hear ya,...too me,..its a win-win situation, with the combination of both svt and shelby!! svt just took it up a notch with performance and marketing with Carroll Shelby! Svt never look soo good with combo of both names and influences,..very smart,..very smart indeed! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]
stang22,
I, too, think it was a good marketing ploy by Ford. But just because the "SVT" logo doesn't adorn the lower left corner of the tail doesn't mean this car doesn't have "SVT" written all over it.....and in the most important area - the engine!
As for the name "Cobra" not being on the Shelby....it is. It just isn't spelled out....the Cobra badging is known by all to say "This is a Cobra!" With only the lettering "SHELBY" and not the Cobra badging, this car wouldn't be the same to me. I love that Cobra badging and what it stands for!
[/b][/quote]I hear ya,...too me,..its a win-win situation, with the combination of both svt and shelby!! svt just took it up a notch with performance and marketing with Carroll Shelby! Svt never look soo good with combo of both names and influences,..very smart,..very smart indeed! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]
2/23/06 | 05:03 PM
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The new GT500 stang Theme Song
WARNING: SING-A-LONG REQUIRED
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WARNING: SING-A-LONG REQUIRED
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2/23/06 | 06:13 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(1 BULLITT @ February 23, 2006, 8:06 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
The new GT500 stang Theme Song
WARNING: SING-A-LONG REQUIRED
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[/b][/quote]hmmm!....I was thinking something more to the tune of: BORN TO BE WILD
From the 1968 release "Steppenwolf"
Get your motor runnin'
Head out on the highway
Lookin' for adventure
And whatever comes our way
Yeah Darlin' go make it happen
Take the world in a love embrace
Fire all of your guns at once
And explode into space
I like smoke and lightning
Heavy metal thunder
Racin' with the wind
And the feelin' that I'm under
Yeah Darlin' go make it happen
Take the world in a love embrace
Fire all of your guns at once
And explode into space
Like a true nature's child
We were born, born to be wild
We can climb so high
I never wanna die
Born to be wild
Born to be wild [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]
The new GT500 stang Theme Song
WARNING: SING-A-LONG REQUIRED
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrinjester.gif[/img]
[/b][/quote]hmmm!....I was thinking something more to the tune of: BORN TO BE WILD
From the 1968 release "Steppenwolf"
Get your motor runnin'
Head out on the highway
Lookin' for adventure
And whatever comes our way
Yeah Darlin' go make it happen
Take the world in a love embrace
Fire all of your guns at once
And explode into space
I like smoke and lightning
Heavy metal thunder
Racin' with the wind
And the feelin' that I'm under
Yeah Darlin' go make it happen
Take the world in a love embrace
Fire all of your guns at once
And explode into space
Like a true nature's child
We were born, born to be wild
We can climb so high
I never wanna die
Born to be wild
Born to be wild [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]
3/2/06 | 03:43 PM
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3/2/06 | 05:22 PM
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Stories like this do not usually pop out of the blue. Someone talked. There must be someone with power at Ford that really has a hard on for SVT.
My guess would be HTT. As a matter of fact, it is my gut feeling it is him. He has been placed on a petistle and has the history. That's why he has not been supportive of SVT. His strategy and comments during the last year now are begining to make sense. The pieces finally fit the puzzle.
With the present state of our society, the back stabbing is not a surprise, but it is sad.
My guess would be HTT. As a matter of fact, it is my gut feeling it is him. He has been placed on a petistle and has the history. That's why he has not been supportive of SVT. His strategy and comments during the last year now are begining to make sense. The pieces finally fit the puzzle.
With the present state of our society, the back stabbing is not a surprise, but it is sad.