yet another thing our cars have in common with the Chevy Citation X-11!
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#5
Friend of mine has an omni with a Shelby charger turbo 2.4l? Might be 2.5 but whatever. And he is running 18 psi. Man that car is fast
But it tq steers into the wild blue yawnder everyte you touch the throttle
But it tq steers into the wild blue yawnder everyte you touch the throttle
Last edited by hahnsolo78; 5/11/11 at 07:00 AM.
#6
Cars from the era of the Citation were a sad lot. The X-11 would have pitiful performance by todays standards (17 second in the 1/4 mile!) but it brough some joy to an otherwise dreadful lineup of new cars in the early 80s. I actually like the lines on these cars...the Citation X-11 in particular is understated and clean.
BTW, the Dodge Omni GLH and GLHS were fantastic cars for their time...very recently I have seen a couple put down incredible times on the autocross course and that 2.2L motor shares a some archtecture with the well respected 2.4L in the SRT4.
BTW, the Dodge Omni GLH and GLHS were fantastic cars for their time...very recently I have seen a couple put down incredible times on the autocross course and that 2.2L motor shares a some archtecture with the well respected 2.4L in the SRT4.
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I bet that Shelby Omni was fast.
These are the years when i lost some of my respect for Shelby. Putting his name on crap cars
I feel better about him now. I guess he was going through 'hard times' for a while, back then .
These are the years when i lost some of my respect for Shelby. Putting his name on crap cars
I feel better about him now. I guess he was going through 'hard times' for a while, back then .
#8
Performance is relative and when you're used to a car that takes 16 seconds to get to 60 (I'm looking at you, Chevrolet Chevette), a car that does it in 10 seconds feels quite spunky.
Our butt-dynos have been seriously desensitized by the vastly better performance of modern cars on the average.
Shelby was working with the best stuff out there at the time...and really they were cool in their own way and worthy of some of some street cred.
Even though a Ford Focus would keep up with these "hi-po" cars, find a well preserved 80s performance car, and I think you'll agree that they do FEEL like a high performance cars even if the numbers don't show that. Tight suspension, quicker ratio steering, good throttle response, etc. The things that made them fun back then still apply.
Besides, anything with a snail hanging off the side of the motor has potential. Have you guys seen the mid 80s Caravans and Voyagers with the turbo 2.2s that run in the 13s? Serioulsy formidible. EDIT: 12s! First youtube video I found shows one snuffing an LT-1 Camaro.
Last edited by MRGTX; 5/11/11 at 07:41 AM.
#9
The problem with those cars is they are not cool, you half expect a guy with a **** stach to jump out with a Jean jacket on
And the fact that you will have to explain why it's "cool" to anyone who doesn't know about them already
And the fact that you will have to explain why it's "cool" to anyone who doesn't know about them already
Last edited by hahnsolo78; 5/11/11 at 08:06 AM.
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Originally Posted by Ronin38
A guy named "hahnsolo" should know this...
"She may not look like much on the outside, but she's fast enough for you old man."
"She may not look like much on the outside, but she's fast enough for you old man."
#13
Originally Posted by MRGTX
They have a similar appeal to the comparable year VW GTI, 280/300ZX, 1st and 2nd gen RX-7, 80s Celicas, etc. They were cool in their day.
I'm probably just bias towards rear drive sports cars though
Last edited by hahnsolo78; 5/11/11 at 09:52 AM.
#14
I agree with the VW but I'm not sure on the rx7 and 280-300z . The rx7 was cool no matter the model and same with the Nissan but with the old hatches they had to make a hot version to get that appeal, and the non-hot versions of these cars are not cool at all. But over all I'd like any of the hot 80's cars to beat up on the weekend, why not?
I'm probably just bias towards rear drive sports cars though
I'm probably just bias towards rear drive sports cars though
Regardless, plenty of very cool cars have appliance-ish base models:
Like the Mustang GT versus the v6 (pre 2011...sorry, guys) or 4cyl
Like the 442 versus the Cutlass
Like Scrambler versus the Rambler
Like the 'Cuda versus the Barracuda (post '70)
Like the SSTi versus the Bonneville (ok, neither were cool. )
#15
I agree 100% a lot has come from hopping up moms sedan or sis's hatchback but I have always loved purpose built sports cars over hot versions of otherwise plan cars, i always love the idea of a sleeper but I don't want people to know it's fast by a badge on the back but rather my tail lights when i hit the gas. With a say... M5 you kinda know wheat it is right away, with a 5.0 powered ranger though things can be a little different