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Old 6/3/10 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by todd03blown
its a 302 that likes to rev high...not a 454 that redlines at 5k RPM and has 400lb ft at 2000 RPM. Ford took the route of the 4v which I LOVE!!! It more of an exotic type engine a la Ferrari etc that comes to life at 4k RPM.
Isn't it actually a 305? Or is it still the 302? Read that somewhere else but people can be wrong.

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Old 6/3/10 | 09:36 AM
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I have only test driven the 2011 so my take on it is:

GT: Satisfied!
GT with Brembos: Very Satisfied!

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Old 6/3/10 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by csledd
Isn't it actually a 305? Or is it still the 302? Read that somewhere else but people can be wrong.
302ci
Old 6/3/10 | 10:28 AM
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Um, actually, the 2010 GT interior is the same as the 2011. So the 2010 would be comparable to Audi or BMW also. Just sayin'.
That was my biggest gripe about keeping my 05 after test driving the 2010.
Old 6/3/10 | 10:30 AM
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I test drove a GT recently and I thought it was very fast. I was surprised that it didn't scare the hell out of me, but when it squatted and I chirped the tires in second and then found myself doing 80 when I thought it was 55, I knew this car was for me.

My C4 Vette feels fast but it isn't much faster than my G35. The G quietly gets going quickly with no drama and the C4 spins the tires and sounds like it is going to win a drag but there is no top end(kind of like the Harley).

I think the key to the new mustang is picking the right gear and turning off the traction.
Old 6/3/10 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by csledd
Isn't it actually a 305? Or is it still the 302? Read that somewhere else but people can be wrong.
like boomer said it is a 302. The thing about it was the old 5.0 was like 301.7 or somthing which rounds to 302, but rounds to 4.9L, but the new one is like 302.3 so its still a 302 but correctly rounds to 5L.

My numbers are not accurate but that is the jist of what happened.
Old 6/3/10 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by csledd
Isn't it actually a 305? Or is it still the 302? Read that somewhere else but people can be wrong.
5000 cc's would be 305 CID but the new 5.0 is actually 4951 cc's, 302 CID, it is just rounded up to 5.0. The old 5.0 was actually 4942 cc's and was about 301 CID.
Old 6/3/10 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by IT_Guru
Same layout, but they made some minor changes in the fit and feel. Less hard plastic, it does feel nicer inside that a 2010.
I find this very hard to believe. Proof? What "hard plastic" was in a 2010 that the 2011 doesn't have? I sat in a 2011 and it felt 99.9% the same as a 2010. The door panels feel just as cheap (my only real complaint about the interior).

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Old 6/3/10 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Magnamover
I think the key to the new mustang is picking the right gear and turning off the traction.
+1

Especially with Auto's like the one the OP drove.

I test drove a 5.0 auto vert for an hour and did several WOT runs. What I found was if you were already rolling at 15-25 and then you gun it, the car has to realize it's not in the right gear and it takes a second to down shift, twice. I felt like the downshift came early around 2.5-3k and jumped it all the way to 5-6k. This, to me, felt like it completely missed the sweet spot of torque (my gf agreed). This is probably why you didn't get that feeling of hard pull acceleration you were looking for. This can be avoided by doing a force shift to 2 before gunning it.

This combined with the traction control full on could be the reason some aren't impressed by the butt dyno. The power has been proven time and time again on the track. It's there, you just have to figure out how to summon it.

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Old 6/3/10 | 12:52 PM
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Plus what fuel was it running? Maybe they only had 87 in it. Not getting all the hp and torque out of it.
Old 6/3/10 | 01:03 PM
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To you guys complaining about the car not feeling fast. I haven't driven one yet, but just for perspective, if possible, go test drive a Tesla Roadster. Full torque available at 0 RPM. That thing pulls off the line like no other. No wheelspin. No clutch/shifting. No power steering. There is a whine coming from the rearend/motor, but no exhaust noise. Just you, the road, the wind and 0-60 in 3.7, 1/4 in about 12.5. It is an amazing experience. From 0-100, I've never driven another car that 'feels' faster, of course I've never driven a 500-600whp Cobra or anything like that either. It only has 1 gear so it just pulls throughout that entire range.

Just thought I'd throw that in there..
Old 6/3/10 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by todd03blown
its a 302 that likes to rev high...not a 454 that redlines at 5k RPM and has 400lb ft at 2000 RPM. Ford took the route of the 4v which I LOVE!!! It more of an exotic type engine a la Ferrari etc that comes to life at 4k RPM.

I agree with Adam
Old 6/4/10 | 10:50 PM
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Test Drive Update

So, just got home from dealership where I test drove a black 2011 premium GT hardtop and all I can say is I WANT THIS CAR. I was more comfortable with car this time around and the streets were pretty much empty. I took the same route but I don’t know if it was the weight difference between the convertible or did I just push it harder but needless to say from my first pull it was evident, the 5.0 is real.

Jumped on the freeway at about 50 mph, then slammed on the gas and held it to 4000rpm then out of nowhere I got that feeling I was searching for as the rpm shot to 6000 and speedo showed 120 when I let off. I cruised the rest of the way satisfied that the 5.0 is a beast.
I’ve pretty much decided not to wait for my Gt/Cs, it took everything I had not to buy this Black 5.0 but we’re working on a dealer trade for a premium Grabber blue GT.

Lastly, this car is going to get me in trouble. I asked my Salesman how much he weighed, he replied 270lbs, this car may go airborne when I drive alone.
Old 6/4/10 | 10:52 PM
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Nice Brandon! Citrus has a kona blue coupe that I might try tomorrow.

What dealership are they trading with if you don't mind my asking?
Old 6/4/10 | 10:56 PM
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Don't steal it bro but pacific ford in long beach. My dealer has two grabber blue at their sister store but they're base models.
Old 6/4/10 | 11:01 PM
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lol I won't I was just curious. I'm still keeping hope that mine will come in
Old 6/4/10 | 11:07 PM
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lol I won't I was just curious. I'm still keeping hope that mine will come in
The one I tested today was built 5/20 and arrived today, my GT/CS will built 4/13 and still awaiting shipment.

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Old 6/4/10 | 11:55 PM
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time to disable advancetrac and go for another drive
Old 6/5/10 | 10:13 AM
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be careful when you disable it. youll be suprised how easy it is to wreck it.
Old 6/13/10 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam2004
I find this very hard to believe. Proof? What "hard plastic" was in a 2010 that the 2011 doesn't have? I sat in a 2011 and it felt 99.9% the same as a 2010. The door panels feel just as cheap (my only real complaint about the interior).
Very minor changes. Adding insulation to make it quieter may be what is contributing to the perception of less kick-in-the-pants acceleration though.

http://apps.detnews.com/apps/autorev...x.php?id=35257

Last year, when Ford introduced the new body style and interior to the Mustang, it finally matched the car's interior with its classic exterior.
Now, it's even better. The single piece dash is soft to the touch and the real aluminum trim just adds to the car's good looks. More importantly, the interior feels well crafted and put together. There are no chunks of shining plastic or inappropriate gaps.


From The Detroit News: http://apps.detnews.com/apps/autorev...#ixzz0qmM6rYDQ

http://autos.aol.com/article/2011-ford-mustang-review/

Ford's grooming for 2011 included adding significant amounts of insulation and noise blockers. These add a sense of quality to the Mustang's interior, and the quieter interior helps Ford's Sync voice control system work better. (It's easier for the system to understand commands when the interior environment is free from road and wind noise.)


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