Writing's On The Wall...
Writing's On The Wall...
Stop looking for 500HP V8's It's not going to happen on a mass produced scale anymore. EcoBoost...E85...Hybrid...Diesel... is the new vocabulary.
Read the Headlines today?....No more Hemi V8, Next Corvette gets less Power (smaller V8), Less Weight.
I don't even think the Camaro will survive on it's own for a sustained period of time without the switch to RWD for the Impala and GTO/Monero.
The Challenger will most likely not get the ubber 6.4 Hemi after all.
Read the Headlines today?....No more Hemi V8, Next Corvette gets less Power (smaller V8), Less Weight.
I don't even think the Camaro will survive on it's own for a sustained period of time without the switch to RWD for the Impala and GTO/Monero.
The Challenger will most likely not get the ubber 6.4 Hemi after all.
That's why I think the 5.0 will be the biggest engine in the stang.
A TwinForce version of that engine would be powerful enough to make the GT500 its ***ch
Although if you really think about it,
even having a screamer 6.2L Boss engine with TwinForce in 10,000 a year Cobra/GT500s won't make that much difference in overall CAFE numbers.
A TwinForce version of that engine would be powerful enough to make the GT500 its ***ch
Although if you really think about it,
even having a screamer 6.2L Boss engine with TwinForce in 10,000 a year Cobra/GT500s won't make that much difference in overall CAFE numbers.
Last weekend, two different people came up to me and told me I was lucky to get the GT when I did, as the paper and a TV news story talked about a Ford revised mix of V-8 to V-6 Mustangs being built in the future. I actually saw the newspaper article in the KC Star, and it stated the mix would, in the future, be 70% V-6 and 30% V-8.
What they need to do is increase the mileage of the 1+ million F-series sold every year... that would be a HUGE boost to Ford's CAFE rating.
I have an F-250 diesel - that gets MUCH better mileage than my neighbors F-150. The diesel engine is just much more effecient.
Stop looking for 500HP V8's It's not going to happen on a mass produced scale anymore. EcoBoost...E85...Hybrid...Diesel... is the new vocabulary.
Read the Headlines today?....No more Hemi V8, Next Corvette gets less Power (smaller V8), Less Weight.
I don't even think the Camaro will survive on it's own for a sustained period of time without the switch to RWD for the Impala and GTO/Monero.
The Challenger will most likely not get the ubber 6.4 Hemi after all.
Read the Headlines today?....No more Hemi V8, Next Corvette gets less Power (smaller V8), Less Weight.
I don't even think the Camaro will survive on it's own for a sustained period of time without the switch to RWD for the Impala and GTO/Monero.
The Challenger will most likely not get the ubber 6.4 Hemi after all.
I'm sure the F-150 will get better milage with the EcoBoost and the Diesels..
Again, with the mustang, if the 3.5L gets better mileage and more power than the 4.0, we're good.
Also the 5.0 with direct injection...we're good.
They will try to (and seems like it will do a good job)
of maximizing the smaller engines with turbo's, yet still have a wide range of larger engines to cover all bases.
Again, with the mustang, if the 3.5L gets better mileage and more power than the 4.0, we're good.
Also the 5.0 with direct injection...we're good.
They will try to (and seems like it will do a good job)
of maximizing the smaller engines with turbo's, yet still have a wide range of larger engines to cover all bases.
500 HP V8s have never been produced on a mass scale.
But I agree the small number of them that have been produced and sold recently will fade away both because they are no longer politically correct and for the very same reason the big HP V8s went away in 1972. Their volume is just too low to justify putting any engineering and production tooling into them.
Tru'dat V10
Of course I dont see a problem with 13 and 14 second Mustangs, Camaros and Corvettes. Besides this opens the door for lighter more efficient vehicles, by virtue of not having to design a chassis that not only has to cope with the base V6, but also the 500 hp monster that also happens to be 700 pounds heavier. If anybody cares to remember, the S-197 gained 70 pounds of weight when the GT500 came onto the scene so it could cope with all the extra power and weight.
Of course I dont see a problem with 13 and 14 second Mustangs, Camaros and Corvettes. Besides this opens the door for lighter more efficient vehicles, by virtue of not having to design a chassis that not only has to cope with the base V6, but also the 500 hp monster that also happens to be 700 pounds heavier. If anybody cares to remember, the S-197 gained 70 pounds of weight when the GT500 came onto the scene so it could cope with all the extra power and weight.
I have big one of the biggest whiners on this site begging for the boss 6.2. Bottom line is I dont see it happening. The camaro boards are lit up wondering which lsx engine its going to get. Who knows but after sitting back and taking some deep breaths and actually thinking about the big picture Im not sure it matters. They have some big issues to overcome imo besides what powers it no matter what the rating.
Dont get me wrong, power is a good thing. Im not so hung up on Ford that I cant buy a GM product and will give serious consideration to one when the time comes. Its actually quite funny to read some of the comments about the mustangs on those boards when there is no camaro out to compare it to just yet.
Here is my glimmer of hope for the future. Sometime this week Ford was in negotiations with the Canadian govt on a factory to build a all new engine. Little is know at this point but its heavily speculated that it could be for a smaller version v8. So, Im thinking how about a 4.0 liter v8 TT?
With the technology that Ford is developing why would this not be a possible avenue. Maybe Im crazy. .
If and when the twin force engines ever hit mustang Im like v10, Im not going be on the R and D team to test them.
Dont get me wrong, power is a good thing. Im not so hung up on Ford that I cant buy a GM product and will give serious consideration to one when the time comes. Its actually quite funny to read some of the comments about the mustangs on those boards when there is no camaro out to compare it to just yet.
Here is my glimmer of hope for the future. Sometime this week Ford was in negotiations with the Canadian govt on a factory to build a all new engine. Little is know at this point but its heavily speculated that it could be for a smaller version v8. So, Im thinking how about a 4.0 liter v8 TT?
If and when the twin force engines ever hit mustang Im like v10, Im not going be on the R and D team to test them.
Here is my glimmer of hope for the future. Sometime this week Ford was in negotiations with the Canadian govt on a factory to build a all new engine. Little is know at this point but its heavily speculated that it could be for a smaller version v8. So, Im thinking how about a 4.0 liter v8 TT?
With the technology that Ford is developing why would this not be a possible avenue. Maybe Im crazy. .
Not so fast, It would make a 60 deg V8 which is not an natural V8 configuration, would require balancing. Also you would have the extra friction losses from the 2 additional cylinders. So far in the real world cylinder de-activation hasn't lived up the the promised MPG improvements.
Here is my glimmer of hope for the future. Sometime this week Ford was in negotiations with the Canadian govt on a factory to build a all new engine. Little is know at this point but its heavily speculated that it could be for a smaller version v8. So, Im thinking how about a 4.0 liter v8 TT?
With the technology that Ford is developing why would this not be a possible avenue. Maybe Im crazy. .
I'm sure the F-150 will get better milage with the EcoBoost and the Diesels..
Again, with the mustang, if the 3.5L gets better mileage and more power than the 4.0, we're good.
Also the 5.0 with direct injection...we're good.
They will try to (and seems like it will do a good job)
of maximizing the smaller engines with turbo's, yet still have a wide range of larger engines to cover all bases.
Again, with the mustang, if the 3.5L gets better mileage and more power than the 4.0, we're good.
Also the 5.0 with direct injection...we're good.
They will try to (and seems like it will do a good job)
of maximizing the smaller engines with turbo's, yet still have a wide range of larger engines to cover all bases.



