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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 03:19 PM
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I'm looking for a set of wheels dedicated for track days. The 19x9 Brembo wheels are quite heavy at 31 lbs, and I'd rather not scratch them up at the track. I'd like to put all season rubber on the Brembo wheels and have a second dedicated road course set. I'm looking for suggestions for strong, light-ish wheels in the 19x9.5 size. I'd like to be able to put 275/40-19s all around.

So far I'm leaning towards the GT500 replica wheels AM has (I like the charcoal finish ), but I haven't been able to find out what they weigh. Does anyone know?
http://www.americanmuscle.com/charco...9x95-0513.html
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 07:33 AM
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Check these out. Talk to Jay. They are almost 10lbs lighter per corner. Worth the money if you ask me. You could also get some TSW's but they only come in +40 offsets.

http://shop.hypermotiveperformance.c...heels_c872.htm
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 08:06 AM
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http://www.americanmuscle.com/gunmet...8x10-0512.html


Most of the guys that run dedicated track wheels use 18's because of weight.
The Forgestars above are approx. 20 lbs and their 18x10 so you can run a 285 tire without issue. AM lists them as rear only but they will fit in the front without rubbing and clear the brembo calipers, their only issue is the center cap will not fit.
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 08:41 AM
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Check these out. Talk to Jay. They are almost 10lbs lighter per corner.
Wow, 10lbs per corner less? That's HUGE. I really like the flat back version too. I think I'll have to save up more, they are pricey! Thanks for the suggestion.

Most of the guys that run dedicated track wheels use 18's because of weight. The Forgestars above are approx. 20 lbs and their 18x10 so you can run a 285 tire without issue
Yeah, I noticed that. Another advantage to the 18s is also better tire availability in these sizes. I've decided I want to stick to 19s because even 285/40-18 are shorter than my stock 255/40-19 setup. And Ive noticed that with 3.73s my 2nd and particularly 3rd gears are a bit short for the track. So if I go with a larger diameter tire I pick up a few mph is each gear. And along saving a few pounds on each corner this is a win-win for me.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER
Wow, 10lbs per corner less? That's HUGE. I really like the flat back version too. I think I'll have to save up more, they are pricey! Thanks for the suggestion.



Yeah, I noticed that. Another advantage to the 18s is also better tire availability in these sizes. I've decided I want to stick to 19s because even 285/40-18 are shorter than my stock 255/40-19 setup. And Ive noticed that with 3.73s my 2nd and particularly 3rd gears are a bit short for the track. So if I go with a larger diameter tire I pick up a few mph is each gear. And along saving a few pounds on each corner this is a win-win for me.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Your welcome
BTW the F14's are available in 19x10 +42 and are about 24 lbs each.
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 10:14 AM
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BTW the F14's are available in 19x10 +42 and are about 24 lbs each.
Nice! Does that clear the Brembo brakes up front?
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 11:29 AM
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I would agree on 18's... I also would prefer a bit more speed in each gear but the tire options and pricing for 18's swayed me to go that route. What pricing are you looking for? Lots of the boss guys use enkei wheels with good results. They were above my budget. Love the gt500 wheels I ended up with tho.
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 12:13 PM
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I have 275/40's on the stock Brembo wheels and like that hey are a tad taller than the stock tires. The extra traction helps too except when it's snowing. Ha ha
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dmichaels
I would agree on 18's... I also would prefer a bit more speed in each gear but the tire options and pricing for 18's swayed me to go that route. What pricing are you looking for? Lots of the boss guys use enkei wheels with good results. They were above my budget. Love the gt500 wheels I ended up with tho.
I was hoping to go with ~$250/ wheel range, since these will be my beater wheels. I would be a bit nervous to scratch up $400 wheels while at the track. I have to look at Enkei, I know they make great wheels. And I'm hoping to shave off ~5lbs/wheel too.

I have 275/40's on the stock Brembo wheels and like that hey are a tad taller than the stock tires. The extra traction helps too except when it's snowing. Ha ha
What tires did you go with in the 275 size? Is there noticeably more cornering/acceleration grip than with the 255s? I like that size the best due to the extra height, and pretty decent tire selection.
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Originally Posted by Stevedotmil
Check these out. Talk to Jay. They are almost 10lbs lighter per corner. Worth the money if you ask me. You could also get some TSW's but they only come in +40 offsets. http://shop.hypermotiveperformance.c...heels_c872.htm
Those GTV03's are sweet looking wheels!!!
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BluehazeGT
Those GTV03's are sweet looking wheels!!!
Aren't they. I imagined them on my car and I was like , and then I though of how much they cost and I was like
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 05:06 PM
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I forgot to mention these:
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...VE-Drift-19X95

LMR has them for under $170, and they are 5 pounds lighter than Brembo wheel. Definitely in contention as well.
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER
I was hoping to go with ~$250/ wheel range, since these will be my beater wheels. I would be a bit nervous to scratch up $400 wheels while at the track. I have to look at Enkei, I know they make great wheels. And I'm hoping to shave off ~5lbs/wheel too.
Keeping an eye on SVT forums for used Shelby wheels or a 2nd set of Brembo take offs? I've never been convinced saving 5lbs/wheel on a 3600 lb car that is tracked recreationally is worth it... I know we all have our opinions and reasons, by just as food for thought, my strategy was find a cheap, robust set of track wheels and put the money into sticky tires and more track time. If I get good enough where wheels will make a difference, I'll upgrade then.

Not that I wouldn't take a set of lighter wheels now, but rather there are a number of other items (car trailer so I can tow the Mustang, suspension, roll cage w/harnesses, etc) that are important in my opinion. Figured my set of ~$300 18" GT500 wheels saved me ~$500 off a set of new wheels and that money went right into the trailer fund!
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER
I forgot to mention these:
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...VE-Drift-19X95

LMR has them for under $170, and they are 5 pounds lighter than Brembo wheel. Definitely in contention as well.
I do love the look of those.... some of my favorites on the Mustang
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There's always these...

http://jongbloedracing.com/wordpress/?page_id=212
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER
Nice! Does that clear the Brembo brakes up front?

Yes their identical to the 18" ones I posted earlier except they are 19's.
I have been looking at these myself, although I am not interested in a track only wheel.
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER
Nice! Does that clear the Brembo brakes up front?
5.M0NSTER,

Yes, the Forgestar F14's will clear the brembo brakes in all the sizes that we carry them!

I'm not positive what the 19x9.5 '13 GT500 wheels weigh, but I believe it's about 26lbs. I'll see if I can find one laying around the garage without a tire on it and throw it on a scale for you.

I've always liked the AMR wheels for a light road race option. You should be able to run them in a 19x10 and be able to install the center cap.

Hope this info helps!

Shane
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 05:20 PM
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5.M0NSTER,

Yes, the Forgestar F14's will clear the brembo brakes in all the sizes that we carry them!

I'm not positive what the 19x9.5 '13 GT500 wheels weigh, but I believe it's about 26lbs. I'll see if I can find one laying around the garage without a tire on it and throw it on a scale for you.

I've always liked the AMR wheels for a light road race option. You should be able to run them in a 19x10 and be able to install the center cap.

Hope this info helps!

Shane
Hey Shane, thanks for the info! If you could find out what the 19x9.5 '13 GT500 wheel weigh I'd be very grateful. If it is in the ~26 pound range I'm pretty much sold. That would be basically a 20lbs saving over my Brembo wheels (with more grip all around) for a good price. Plus I love the charcoal look.

Thanks again.

P.S. I still have GT500 axle backs, K&N air filter and Barton shifter bracket from AM sitting in the basement waiting for install. This winter has been total
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Hey Shane, thanks for the info! If you could find out what the 19x9.5 '13 GT500 wheel weigh I'd be very grateful. If it is in the ~26 pound range I'm pretty much sold. That would be basically a 20lbs saving over my Brembo wheels (with more grip all around) for a good price. Plus I love the charcoal look.

Thanks again.

P.S. I still have GT500 axle backs, K&N air filter and Barton shifter bracket from AM sitting in the basement waiting for install. This winter has been total
5.M0NSTER,

I just stopped in the garage today and only found a set on our 2014 GT which has tires mounted too. What I can do is pull a wheel from the warehouse and having it weight for you. However, I need just one more day to do so. By tomorrow I should have the measurement for you!

Sorry for the weight here, but I'm glad you're excited about the '13 GT500 wheels! They're a killer looking wheel for sure.

Now get those new parts in your basement installed!!!

Shane
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AMShaneLesky
5.M0NSTER,

I just stopped in the garage today and only found a set on our 2014 GT which has tires mounted too. What I can do is pull a wheel from the warehouse and having it weight for you. However, I need just one more day to do so. By tomorrow I should have the measurement for you!

Sorry for the weight here, but I'm glad you're excited about the '13 GT500 wheels! They're a killer looking wheel for sure.

Now get those new parts in your basement installed!!!

Shane
Thanks Shane, I really appreciate you doing this for me. No rush, just when you get a moment. I'm waiting till April anyways before I pull the trigger on the order. Part of my bonus this year is going toward track wheels and tires .

Thank you again.
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