Something that involves a cartoon cobra jet logo would be nice...

 

Boom: Check out auto websites. I read it on two sites (leftlanenews? autoblog?) this week ('May have been posted on those sites last week, so scroll back through several pages until you find the announcement--and you WILL find it). Doubtless there'll be tuner versions within a year or two after the debut with any engine Chevy makes if you got the big bucks...

 

That's my point.
One website gets a sniff and posts it, so does another and it spreads like a virus.

Quoting Scott Settlemire (who was the brand manager and known as the FBod Father...now (can't remember his exact title) but deals with Autoshows and publicity.... has a direct hand in the project....) says do not believe these rumours.
That it is infact still on the table at this time.

If I remember correctly it was never meant to be first year anyway, it was (like the GT500) going to follow within 2 years of the product lifecycle.

I'm not saying that Scott is right, but I'd believe him over a website like Leftlane. He may just infact be doing rumour/damage control.... but again, I'd go with something he says over those websites.

 

Boom: I dug up the autoblog posting for you, which as you can see credits leftlanenews:

Alas, Z/28, we hardly knew ye

Posted Jul 14th 2008 4:03PM by Chris Shunk
Filed under: Trends, Coupes, Plants/Manufacturing, Chevrolet


The all-new Camaro we've been waiting on for two years is just a few days from showing its production face, and we've already got some bad news. The General has dumped plans for the Z28. The highly anticipated Camaro variant was rumored to feature the same supercharged 6.2L engine that powers the brawny Cadillac CTS-V with well over 500 ponies. Without the Z28 in the picture, the still powerful SS edition will be the range-topper for now, and we're expecting power to be just under that of the base Corvette's 436 hp.
While this is certainly bad news for Camaro enthusiasts, it does make sense in the face of $4.25 per gallon gas to cancel a supercharged monster that's likely to be eligible for a hefty gas guzzler tax. What doesn't make sense is canceling the Z28 moniker when it means much more to Camaro fans than SS ever will. There goes the aftermarket for louvers and mullet wigs. Thanks for the tip, Doug!



Gallery: 2010 Camaro Spy Pics Black and White


[Source: Left Lane News, Photo: CamarosAndClassics.com]

 

It would be sad if true.
It was going to be a beast... heavy... but fast.
We'll see what GM officially has to say about it.

 

Why would you want a diesel mustang? its like $ 5.5 where i live...thats alot even if you get 30 mpg...and i bet thats babying it too

 

I don't quite get it...Isn't the Z28 much like the GT, the affordable mainstream performance model, with the SS being the premium ***** out version??? Why would the Z28 be the top model, and (supposedly) be getting canceled?

 

It's just the way they are doing it this gen.
SS lower than the Z28

 

Fbod Father says its not true and GM has not killed the z28. Im not sure even if he knows to be honest. I think he is getting tired of the rumors floating around and he has caught a lot of crap about the camaro being too heavy to suit a lot of people including myself. We will find out soon enough the specs so the rumors will be put to rest. I sure hope Ford can find a way to trim some weight off the next mustangs.

 

Yeah, but he also mentioned we won't hear about the Z28 on monday as part of the specs. More than likely because there won't be one for 2010.
Again, it wasn't going to be for the first year anyway.

So could Chevy actually still be evaluating the need for a Z28, and kill it later ... sure...

 

The whole losing the Z28 seems weird to me. I know the argument about performance car/V8 buyers and gas prices has been thoroughly discussed in other threads ("A Good Read") so I won't get into it but the way I see it, why would Chevy consider can canceling the top performance model? The people buying cars in this price range have little concern over gas going up a dollar. They can afford it, thats why they're buying an expensive premium performance car. Its the affordable V8 buyers that have to worry about gas prices.

As well, most Shelby's/Z28's/SRT8's etc see limited driving time and are babied making gas even less of a concern. Most GT's and the equivalent are daily drivers. These are the people who gas prices will impact, not the top model buyers. The people who are spending 50,000 and up on a toy/collectors item will not be worried about how much gas costs.

Thats why I think Ford is going to hit the jackpot if they make the Ecoboost V6 a similarly priced alternative to the V8 GT. Alot of buyers in this price segment want the performance, but aren't rich enough to disregard gas the reality of rising gas prices.

My point is, I think the whole "Chevy is canceling the Z28!" is a bunch if BS. No way it'll happen.

 

GM may not have sent the Z/28 to the gallows yet, but I would be very surprised indeed if ithat eventuality isn't under consideration at the very least.

The problem isn't money, it's CAFE. With the possible exception of Chrysler GM is in the worst position of any major auto maker, by far, to deal with tightening CAFE restrictions and high gas prices. Their existing lineup is heavily V8 dependent and most of the near future product they had hoped would showcase their recovery effort can be described the same way. Even worse, in terms of development GM is about a decade behind Ford, Honda, and Toyota with their small cars having, until very recently, cast those upon their South Korean division like an afterthought. Now they are being forced to revise their plans trying to turn cars intended to be low cost, budget beaters into something that can compete with some of the best small cars in the world. That scenario obviously doesn't bode well for volume unless they are willing to chop prices drastically to ensure volume, and as GM can no longer afford to chop prices to bolster volume that presents a problem......

While the few thousand Z/28's expected to be produced per year may not seem like much when you add that cars totals into the other LSA powered cars already in production or slated for the same (Cadillac CTS sedan and coupe, Corvette Z06, and likely a couple more vehicles GM hasn't yet announced) the numbers are significant enough to make a difference, even if a small one, if the goal is to improve overall fuel economy numbers.

 

GM should make a short stroke high rev LS engine displacing 5L for the Z28. 7500rpm redline 450hp.

 

Clino: Sooooooooooo, Clino, do you not recall that it was Chevy who cancelled the entire Camaro line in 2002? It wasn't Chrysler who cancelled it. It wasn't Ford or Toyota or Honda or VW or Subaru or Misti Bushi or Nissan, now was it?

I'm sure that with today's realities the pathway to profit is hardly through introducing yet another Mustang imitation into the marketplace. It was done by many once before--yet only the genuine item survived to this day and it is stronger than ever. Luckily, you own one of the genuine items--and not some retreaded imitation cranked out by jealous corporate rivals with too few original ideas of their own. Survival in tough times is based upon leadership--not imitation...

Greg "Eights" Ates

 

I doubt you'd see a 7.5k redline even with a short stroke motor, piston speed isn't the issue (see the LS7 and its 7k redline) Its valvetrain issues. As much as people slavishly preach the virtues of the LSx engines, it is still a pushrod engine and still a pushrod engine that relies on a hydraulic roller valvetrain at that. This amounts to a highly stressed valvetrain that needs exotic materials to reliably rev (again witness the exotic for production car valve material used in the LS7).

 

I agree 100% ... just like Ford should offer a mid-range optional V-8 for the SE(s). Something between the 281 and 331 and quit putting the larger V-8(s) in the Shelby only. One V-6 is enough, but you need a base V-8 and an option before you get to the big expensive engine.

I'm already hearing talk that if Ford only offers a 5.0 then several folks I know are NOT going to be buying a futrure Mustang.

 

Jeez, while I can certainly understand people having cold feet about Ford delivering the goods on a 400hp 5.0 V8. What I cant understand is why somebody wouldn't like a 400hp car that weighs 3600 lbs compared to a car that has 416hp and weighs 3900 lbs.

 

I'm with you. What we know about these two cars would lead you to believe that the Mustang GT isn't the one that will have something to worry about at the strip. Go figure.

 

A lot of people may be pleasantly surprised....

Now after modifcations .. well the 6.2 has potential, but it all depends on what can be done to the engine. I'm not up on the LS3 mods so I can't say how well they respond.
Knowing Ford though, the motor will respond well to mods. Something Ford has done well in the past.

 

Well, it would be nice to hear some "official" news regarding the new V8 from Ford. Time table etc.
Until then, they should of just dropped a 400hp 5.4L in the GT or a Super Charged 4.6L.