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Old Dec 30, 2014 | 11:45 PM
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Waterless Detail...

Im looking for a GOOD waterless detail system!
Im in the military and moving on base and they do not allow washing of vehicles in the driveway...
Say its cause all the water runoff with contaminants...whatever! smh

SO, What do you guys use for washing, waxing, sealant etc.
Ive heard of Optimum No-Rinse and Croftgate waterless products that people seem to like to use.

Advice?
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Old Dec 30, 2014 | 11:47 PM
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I've been using the CG EcoSmart and I really like it. I just ordered a gallon from Amazon for $22. I would do a full paint correction, then apply CQuartz UK, and keep up with the CG EcoSmart.
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 01:09 PM
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I use optimum no rinse, and find it easy to use and does a great job. I would submit that while the product u use is important, the technique you use is more important. Check out Garry Dean detailing on you tube and listen to his video on waterless wash technique, that is what i go by and it works.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mustang259
I use optimum no rinse, and find it easy to use and does a great job. I would submit that while the product u use is important, the technique you use is more important. Check out Garry Dean detailing on you tube and listen to his video on waterless wash technique, that is what i go by and it works.
Very intriguing! I like what Garry Dean has to offer.
Anyone else have input....I see a TON of people pushing Croftgate products.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 06:38 AM
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I use Optimum No-Rinse I was using croftgate but it was way more expensive than the optima stuff
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 03:07 PM
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I just ordered some blackfire. It was on secret sale with Chinchila MF bundle and sprayer. With free sample of Uber compound. I will let you know how well it works. I may even do video review.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 05:56 PM
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I should add that if the dust layer is too thick I hit the touchless/pressure car wash first and then follow up with the waterless stuff.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn
I should add that if the dust layer is too thick I hit the touchless/pressure car wash first and then follow up with the waterless stuff.
Agreed. I do the DIY spray wash, but same concept.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:59 AM
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I use Optimum No-Rinse I was using croftgate but it was way more expensive than the optima stuff
Croftgate is top knotch and that's all I use. Its very cheap and I paid 63 dollars for a gallon size bottle. That gallon size will last me years and that's washing it once a week. You only use a capful with a gallon of water. Croftgate USA is where its at
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 06:31 AM
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I have asked and not gotten much response on the actual process of Croftgate System.....a step by step with which products you use in which order for the best shine!
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 06:40 AM
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I use either ultima waterless wash and croftgate usa products. The ultima waterless concentrate is an amazing product but croftgate usa offers many more products that can clean the car inside and out roof to sidewalls. Yes it may be a tad more expensive but in all honestly you do get what you pay for.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 06:46 AM
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I've been using Meguiars G3626 Wash Anywhere Spray. I have absolutely no complaints with this. I've also used it on my dark blue Frontier and never have had any scratches left from the spray.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 07:14 AM
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I've used croftgate for a while and I don't trust the stuff. Don't believe there's anyway it will lift dirt off your paint and not scratch your car as you wipe it. If your rag has dirt on it, it's gonna scratch your car if you rub it on your paint. I truly believe croftgate is full of fillers so it conceals the damage you're doing to your paint. I do like the blue stuff croftgate sells. Very good protectant. But I think it's also just another way to conceal fine scratches.

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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nocturnal'14
I have asked and not gotten much response on the actual process of Croftgate System.....a step by step with which products you use in which order for the best shine!
Hey bro. I'm sorry if I had ignored your questions about croftgate. My bad. First, let me say I'm not a distributor of Croftgate products but I should be. Lol. Prior to me using Croftgate I was using Mequiars cleaning products, compounds, polishes and waxes.

Good stuff it was but even with my dual action porter cable polisher, it still was very time consuming. Washing the tradional way (hose with water), claybar, coat of wax just takes me so long to do. My slow old a$$ would take sometimes 6 to 8 hours to complete. Really good results but took soooooo long.

Croftgate is so much faster with as good or better results in a fraction of the time. Pour a capful of wash and wax into a bucket that has one gallon of water. You will need two microfiber towels. Dip the one microfiber towel in the bucket of suds, ring out, then wipe section off car.

Take the second, dry miro towel and dry that washed section off. Repeat over the whole car by dipping wet mirco towel in bucket of wash and wax.

Seal car with the quick and slick after wash. Wipe on, buff and let dry.

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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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I've used croftgate for a while and I don't trust the stuff. Don't believe there's anyway it will lift dirt off your paint and not scratch your car as you wipe it. If your rag has dirt on it, it's gonna scratch your car if you rub it on your paint. I truly believe croftgate is full of fillers so it conceals the damage you're doing to your paint. I do like the blue stuff croftgate sells. Very good protectant. But I think it's also just another way to conceal fine scratches.
Just curious, but why would you wipe the car down with dirt all over the microfiber towel? I use croftgate and that doesn't make sense too do that. The micro fiber towel is folded typically into four sections. You would wipe a section of the car with a fresh clean, wet, folded side. After one uses the second microfiber towel to dry and buff that cleaned section, you would then turn the first wet microfiber towel onto a clean folded side. There would be 4 total clean sides to the towel, 4 panels with one dip in water.

After all four sides are dirty, place microfiber towel back in bucket and remove dirt from said towel. All the dirt and crime floats to the bottom of bucket where it stays and now you have fresh clean microfiber towel. Now fold back into 4 sides and repeat the process. Very simple. No scratches, easy peasey.

Croftgate is the real deal. I would recommend one buying some decent microfiber towels from say chemical guys and not that crap from Wal Mart. The crap microfiber towels are fine for cleaning the wheels, tires and wheel wells but I bought a bunch of excellent quality 5 dollar each micro towels from checimal guys. Cheap mirco towels can cause surface scratches as well.

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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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Just curious, but why would you wipe the car down with dirt all over the microfiber towel? I use croftgate and that doesn't make sense too do that. The micro fiber towel is folded typically into four sections. You would wipe a section of the car with a fresh clean, wet, folded side. After one uses the second microfiber towel to dry and buff that cleaned section, you would then turn the first wet microfiber towel onto a clean folded side. There would be 4 total clean sides to the towel, 4 panels with one dip in water. After all four sides are dirty, place microfiber towel back in bucket and remove dirt from said towel. All the dirt and crime floats to the bottom of bucket where it stays and now you have fresh clean microfiber towel. Now fold back into 4 sides and repeat the process. Very simple. No scratches, easy peasey. Croftgate is the real deal. I would recommend one buying some decent microfiber towels from say chemical guys and not that crap from Wal Mart. The crap microfiber towels are fine for cleaning the wheels, tires and wheel wells but I bought a bunch of excellent quality 5 dollar each micro towels from checimal guys. Cheap mirco towels can cause surface scratches as well. This is all Croftgate
There's still dirt on the car and towel if you use the waterless wash. There's no way you get it all off. I used Croftgate for a while as directed. Not satisfied with the results, I went back to soap and water with a strong concentration of soap to strip off any wax and fillers. What I found was swirls and fine scratches that I know weren't there before I used croftgate. 3 days of paint correction later I got the car where it needed to be and maintained it after. Maybe it works well for you but I'm not convinced. One of you Croftgate users, I would love to see what you have if you strip your car say with a light dish soap or with a heavy wash soap. I don't know for certain if I was doing something wrong or the product is simply full of fillers that hide swirls well enough to not see them. Fillers can get amazing results also.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 12:58 PM
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There's still dirt on the car and towel if you use the waterless wash. There's no way you get it all off. I used Croftgate for a while as directed. Not satisfied with the results, I went back to soap and water with a strong concentration of soap to strip off any wax and fillers. What I found was swirls and fine scratches that I know weren't there before I used croftgate. 3 days of paint correction later I got the car where it needed to be and maintained it after. Maybe it works well for you but I'm not convinced. One of you Croftgate users, I would love to see what you have if you strip your car say with a light dish soap or with a heavy wash soap. I don't know for certain if I was doing something wrong or the product is simply full of fillers that hide swirls well enough to not see them. Fillers can get amazing results also.
I'm not familiar with any fillers Croftgate uses in their wash and waxes but you may be correct good sir. I quess as long as myself and others can't see the swirl marks, scratches and oxidation on the car, that's fine by me. Ha ha ha.

I had more swirl marks and surface scratches in the past from using crap microfiber towels and traditional hose and car wash soap. To be honest, your the only person to date I had conversation with about Croftgate having experienced scratching in the paint from using Croftgate.

Not saying you applied the product wrong, just that no one had experienced scratching that I spoke with about Croftgate. I did have some say they prefer other detailing brands over Croftgate and felt they had received better results.

I have been using Croftgate for a few months now and absolutely love their products. From the Wash and wax, quick and slick, tire shine and Project X, makes detailing so much faster with amazing results.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 01:16 PM
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I'm not familiar with any fillers Croftgate uses in their wash and waxes but you may be correct good sir. I quess as long as myself and others can't see the swirl marks, scratches and oxidation on the car, that's fine by me. Ha ha ha. I had more swirl marks and surface scratches in the past from using crap microfiber towels and traditional hose and car wash soap. To be honest, your the only person to date I had conversation with about Croftgate having experienced scratching in the paint from using Croftgate. Not saying you applied the product wrong, just that no one had experienced scratching that I spoke with about Croftgate. I did have some say they prefer other detailing brands over Croftgate and felt they had received better results. I have been using Croftgate for a few months now and absolutely love their products. From the Wash and wax, quick and slick, tire shine and Project X, makes detailing so much faster with amazing results.
The quick and slick is some great stuff. I will give them that. I don't know about wash and wax. I used the Aquanil X waterless stuff and that's the product I don't trust whatsoever. I'm sure they have other great products but I wouldn't trust any waterless products. I don't believe there are lubricants good enough to lift away dirt and keep them from scratching. The fact of the matter is the less you rub your car with anything, the better off your finish will be. No rinse, no dry, ultra soft water, blow drying, yada yada yada. DA polishing for shine and upkeep. One day there will be a touch less wash and wax that really works. None of this matters if you have a forgiving color car. Pearls and metallics really help. Dark blues and black will really show you what is happening when you wash.
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I often used 1 MF and all four (really eight)sides for each body panel when using the croftgate was n wax. Also i never dipped a dirty towel back in the bucket. I used conra mf towels (the mango ones) and dunked all of em in the bucket. Id do one wipe, flip, wipe and so on so forth. After that id do a quick polish with a DA then top it off with Klasse high gloss sealant (one coat) then quick n slick (two coats) and i would a factory fresh look. The multi clean was great for the lower trim, wheel wells as well as wheels and tires. I would use it as a pre-wash/scrub. Oh and the tire cleaner stuff works wonder too although i wish it would last longer.

Im pretty OCD when it comes to cleaning cars and have often times done a quick detail spray right after washing and sealing just to make sure i got everything.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 01:43 PM
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The quick and slick is some great stuff. I will give them that. I don't know about wash and wax. I used the Aquanil X waterless stuff and that's the product I don't trust whatsoever. I'm sure they have other great products but I wouldn't trust any waterless products. I don't believe there are lubricants good enough to lift away dirt and keep them from scratching. The fact of the matter is the less you rub your car with anything, the better off your finish will be. No rinse, no dry, ultra soft water, blow drying, yada yada yada. DA polishing for shine and upkeep. One day there will be a touch less wash and wax that really works. None of this matters if you have a forgiving color car. Pearls and metallics really help. Dark blues and black will really show you what is happening when you wash.
Please remind me why I got Kona Blue and not a forgiving color like silver. Ha ha ha. I have the Aquanil X waterless wash as well and use it when the car is not very dirty. More like a quick detail. I prefer the rinseless wash and wax liquid for when the car is dirty. That's where you pour the cap full of liquid into a bucket with a gallon of water. That's really the rinseless way. but with little water. I wash my entire car inside my garage all nice and warm. Well, warmer than outside with a hose and all. Lol. Never any water spots with this system.

Maybe you may give the wash and wax rinseless system a try. I can ask my Croftgate dealer is she may have some sample pack of the wash and wax stuff. I think you would really be more comfortable using it over the aquanil X

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