In response to the topic, which is the question, alone:

No. Mine is gorgeous and just exactly right. And the 'tubbiness' you describe is more of a muscular look than fatness. The fender flares on Awesome *way* more aggressive than Muskrat's were, for example.

To be fair, though I also happen to think the '64.5-'66s are gorgeous and just exactly right, for them.

However, for me, for these two models, it's like saying "who's your favorite niece/nephew?" I say "all of them."

/Unlike the Challenger and it's namesake, to which that car is *definitely* tubby... well, more tall, overall... and look funny, in comparison to the old style. The S197s do not have this issue, they look exactly right, even in comparison.
//to me.

 

Talk about too big, Chevy had to put 22 inch wheels on the Camaro to make it look right. What is up with that? A factory Dink.

 

Its called the brembo package, if thats not enough then the next step is called the Boss, if thats not enough then its on to the Laguna

However the question you must ask yourself, if you dont intend to track the car is how much handling do you really need? In the impromptu world of street racing, things are seldom more than a brief straight line grudge match not more than a coupla miles at most and dont generally involve going "***** out" along say the infamous dragon's tail (US129) where extremely sharp handling would be best suited.

If the Boss and its derivative aren't enough then an aftermarket solution is really the best choice.

 

Brembo is (mostly) a brake and wheel/tire upgrade.

In addition to the weekend GT/CS, my daily driver is an out of the box VW GTI which handles like a skateboard compared to the Mustang. It just seems to me, you shouldn't have to pay $50+K for a better handling Mustang. When you are dropping $35 - $40K for a GT, you shouldn't have to go to the aftermarket to make it handle like it should right from the factory... just sayin'.

 

Perfect, There ya go. Is there a nice, hi-tech compromise somewhere between these 2 designs that represents the Mustang's near future? Size wise smaller than today, handling wise better than today. I've been buying Mustangs since 1970 - my first was a 68' coupe. Dear Ford: don't make me put a German performance car on my bucket list. LOL.

 

My '11 Brembo GT handles much better than my '07 GT did. The Brembo Package includes very good brakes, nice wheels, sticky summer tires, bigger rear sway bar, and revised advancetrac tuning. It's a helluva package for how little it cost. If fact, my '11 Brembo GT was only $28K brand new. Awesome bang for the buck for such a nice handling GT.

 

It has been conclusively and objectively shown that the Brembo cars have a stiffer suspension setup than the non-Brembo cars. Thicker sway bars and stiffer springs are among the changes.

 

People die everyday in new cars as well, the car you drive doesn't kill you it's the guy behind the wheel, car today are safer then before but it doesn't change anything

 

A more robust structure improves the "probability of survivability".

 

Yes, you got a great deal and for $1695, the optional Brembo package is the way to go and does offer some handling improvement. Shocks, struts and springs are still the stock GT stuff. Sam Strano would agree, at least the first 2 gotta go for more spirited handling.

 

It changes most everything! My '64 Falcon convertible has chromed steel A pillars, chromed steel windshield header, and was not delivered from the factory with seat belts installed! I could be killed in it at 30 where's you'd almost certainly walk away in a new Stang.

The new Boss is 2 inches longer and within an inch on width compared to my 47 year old Falcon, which was the subcompact Ford had at the time.

 

Mustangs gradually got larger and heavier with each subsequent generation from 1964.5 up through 1973, got smaller and lighter with the Mustang II and Foxes, and has gradually gotten larger and heavier again. From looking up all the specs in the past, the S197 Mustang is similar in size and weight to the 1969-1970 Mustangs (weight will depend on the engine and options), so everything is cyclical. According to all the rumors, the current Mustang will be the end of this cycle, and the next one will be smaller and lighter than the current one, I'm all for it.

 

When parked next to the dodge and chevy the mustang looks small, just saying

 

You drive that " death machine" and our still around today? Man how do you do it? I guess operator error hasn't played it's very important role when talking about safety, as I said before the car doesn't kill you it's the guy behind the wheel. New cars are safer but it still doesn't change the fact that people die in cars everyday new and old

 

Yes it sure does, especially when compared to the new Camaro, which really needs 400+hp just to move it around. LOL . On the other hand, does the Mustang really have to be this BIG in the rear end? Talk about "junk in da' trunk"; oh man, it needs to go to that Jenny Craig of auto body design.

 

Blame it on the hips! The trunk was already tall but in order to add hips to the body line they had to raise it a bit more and that led to the diaper and all he other tricks in order to visually shrink the appearence.

If the hips had been designed in from the get go they could have avoided the big booty or maybe not? They are a big hit and I suppose we will see them on the next gen car as well better integrated into the body.

 

I don't remember where I read it, but it was long enough ago that the comparison was between a '96 Cobra and a '65 GT350R track-only car. The same guy drove both cars, and the Cobra was on street tires while the GT350 had Hoosiers. Except for the extra power of the GT350, the Cobra KILLED it on the road course. Memory doesn't serve that well, but lap times were very close between the two, the difference being the extra power and higher straight speeds.

Moral of the story: a street car more than held it's own against a smaller, much lighter, much more powerful track car. I can live with the size, but dropping 3-400 pounds would be way cool!

 

Since the Mustang has gone through its growing and then shrinking stages through its whole life, Park a 65 next to a 73. Nothing new

The Mustang does handle extremely well on the Dragon, even on the stock suspension and stock Perelli's. Adding the Vogtland's and the Koni's has helped a lot. It sucks only being 20 miles away when I leave work

 

Mistake?
While the Mustang II is not held in high esteem by Mustang purists the car had HUGE SALES NUMBERS.
They sold 1 million of them in 4 years! I think that only the 64-66 mustang had better sales.
So the car was hardly a mistake.
Ford (today) could only dream of a having another mustang as successful as the mustang II.

 

not correct,

the springs rates are upgraded on the brembo package..

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...001-post1.html

really you slap a set of good shocks on that pack and you could be done.

the issue with this package is the wheel and tires. so many better options for tires on a 18 inch wheel..

beers