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Old 4/24/10 | 12:43 PM
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Something for you new 2011 owners to think about...

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Flow testing on the factory air inlet on the new 5.0 cars. Nevermind the top set of flow numbers. Check out the difference between the 2010 air intake and the 2011 air intake at the bottom of the chart.



Seems the 2010 air intake flows better due to the location and orientation of the throttle body. This will be one area of the 2011 that will benefit greatly from an aftermarket CAI. Lee at C&L stated their new 2011 CAI will flow over 1100 cfm at a minimum and working on getting 1200 out of it.





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Old 4/24/10 | 12:49 PM
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Flow testing on the factory air inlet on the new 5.0 cars. Nevermind the top set of flow numbers. Check out the difference between the 2010 air intake and the 2011 air intake at the bottom of the chart.



Seems the 2010 air intake flows better due to the location and orientation of the throttle body. This will be one area of the 2011 that will benefit greatly from an aftermarket CAI. Lee at C&L stated their new 2011 CAI will flow over 1100 cfm at a minimum and working on getting 1200 out of it.





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Whose graph and data is this? C&L's?
Old 4/24/10 | 12:52 PM
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I'm almost completely sure that it is, although the guy who posted the graph didn't say who's it was. It looks exactly like any other flow graph C&L would have.
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I thought we read in MM&FF that the 5.0 flowed even better than the GT500. Or was that just the heads?
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I thought we read in MM&FF that the 5.0 flowed even better than the GT500. Or was that just the heads?
just the heads IIRC
Old 4/24/10 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Poisoned Pony
just the heads IIRC

yeah I remember it was just the heads too.
Old 4/24/10 | 01:10 PM
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If its not smoke/mirrors ... then it could be that the heads are setup for nice flow numbers, and the intake was intentially corked... CAI/Tune could show some NICE numbers
Old 4/24/10 | 01:14 PM
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Haven't you heard the 5.0 is already maxed out.
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If its not smoke/mirrors ... then it could be that the heads are setup for nice flow numbers, and the intake was intentially corked... CAI/Tune could show some NICE numbers

That makes sense, I really hope this test is true. It was posted by a reputable racer named SD Wheeler on the other forum, so I don't see why it wouldn't be.
Old 4/24/10 | 01:19 PM
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I smell vendoring marketing. Even if this is true, 750 cfm is still more than enough for 412 HP. Serious mods like a blower will max out 750 cfm quickly.
Old 4/24/10 | 01:33 PM
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Exactly, the engine gets what it needs. Having 1000+ CFM doesn't mean the engine will use that.
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....and Ford knows an aftermarket exists...and thats one of the first things people change.
Old 4/24/10 | 01:43 PM
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I'm excited to see what FRPP comes out with for these cars.
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This can't be true! The 5.0 is completely maxed out from the factory! You can't go FI, and CAI and tune will do nothing!!

It can't be true!
Or can it...
Old 4/24/10 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
I thought we read in MM&FF that the 5.0 flowed even better than the GT500. Or was that just the heads?
4% more intake, 20% less exhaust.
Old 4/24/10 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigjohns97
Haven't you heard the 5.0 is already maxed out.
Originally Posted by stangfoeva
This can't be true! The 5.0 is completely maxed out from the factory! You can't go FI, and CAI and tune will do nothing!!

It can't be true!
Or can it...


Don't forget that they are blowing up on dyno's too!
Old 4/24/10 | 03:13 PM
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You sure can, but just realize that an engine consumes only what it needs. Going bigger with CFM is a good selling point vs power gained for doubling the CFM.

The 5.0 is almost ideal N/A. I would love for people to spend no more than 1000 bucks to get the car at 400+rwhp. Exhaust is tuned very great, can't see much gains there either. I know I would throw an O/R H for fun.
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4% more intake, 20% less exhaust.
I'm backing you up on this one. It's like the old 5.0's, people would just change heads and intakes and not want to change the restrictive manifolds and exhaust mufflers. It would just choke.
Old 4/24/10 | 03:25 PM
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I believe the 5.0 has 4 cats so there must be some gains from removing them though, plus there might be a small amount left by upgrading the headers, although they are already close to a longtube design.
Old 4/24/10 | 04:43 PM
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SD Wheeler and his integrity on the internet is highly questionable, i remember being told to avoid his sales pitches on c*rr@l.net as many claimed he was a scammer

some evidence from others:http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...d.php?t=102179

...but who knows
Saleen claims to get 440hp from a CAI/tune + underdrive pullies


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