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So who hates the 2013's?

Old Mar 14, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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Don't hate it but would take the 05-09 and 10-12 over it any day
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 11:28 PM
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I love the options on the 13's but the fact that they finally get the rear end right but make the front too heavy (cept for gt500 and boss) on the regular models. Definitely wanna try gettin track apps an the recaros on my 12! And of course DIB is amaIng!
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 12:19 AM
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Will order a 2013 GT Premium in a couple of weeks (and will sell or trade my 2011 GT Premium).
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tom_vilsack
2013 Hyundai Mustang

2013 Ford Mustang
Originally Posted by Overboost
Seriously?
would Hyundai build a giant ugly loads of plastic front end?=check

would Hyundai use a cheapo glossy rear tail light treatment...and black plastic around rear plate?=check

would Hyundai try and make there V6 look the same as there $$$$$ Shelby?=check

would Hyundai have optional pony spotlight onto ground from side mirrors (rice rice rice rice rice rice)?=check

so yes...very serious!
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jerseygirl

-go to a car show
-approach a shelby gt500 owner
-say hi nice 2013 v6
-duck!

the end
fixed
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jerseygirl
-go to a car show
-approach a shelby gt500 owner
-say hi nice 2013 v6
- :troll: RUN

the end
There now its fixed(:
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MELLOWYELLOW06
I think Ford is making a mistake making so many changes every year or two. Its frustrating the owners Im sure. I know when they came out with the 05, it stayed the same till 09, leaving owners to enjoy their look without feeling obsolete or outdated six months after a large purchase. Make a design/style and stay with it for a few years, then do your refresh.
You should have lived during the years when cars used to change major body panels for new styling and trim each year. Yearly planned obsolescence! For the original Mustang 1965-69 there were 2 year body cycles along with trim, lamp and grille changes between each year. The 1973 stretched the body cycle to three... 1974 to five years with very few trim changes and then the 1979-93 was the body cycle that lasted too long with only fascia changes in 1983, 1985 and 1987. 1994-2004 was a decent balance.

Realistically more than five years in the 05-09 body style is too long without some changes. Ford cannot keep people interested in brand new vehicles purchases if they keep looking exactly the same as five year old models. So the 2010 refresh was the right timing and the recent 2013 refresh works just fine to keep it salable before the 2015 model comes out.

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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
It's funny.....when the first photos of the '10s hit the internet, the Mustang faithful were unhappy with many of the styling cues.

1 - Many preferred the V6 front end (which was GT500-esq - that's irony, right there!) and didn't like the GTs "mutton chops"

2 - The black plastic, unpainted, side skirts were almost universally disliked

3 - The rear lights were probably the most controversial aspect

4 - Closely followed by that "full diaper"

So, Ford listens, makes changes after just a few years.........and you all keep *****in'


For me, the '13 is what the S197 has been leading up to since '05 and is, in terms of looks, power and equipment, the perfect modern Mustang.

I mean.....this makes me go weak at the knees





I can only hope the '15MY makes my heart beat as fast.
Even though I HATE school bus yellow the 2013 Boss 302 is still one awesome looking ride!
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cinque35
can we practice hating on the 15's here?
or is this section reserved only for 13's..
I hate the 15's because it is going to make every Mustang before it obsolete..
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by watchdevil

I hate the 15's because it is going to make every Mustang before it obsolete..
I hope you're correct and they don't screw it up this time. I hope people get excited every time they see one.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 04:47 AM
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I don't hate - who could hate a Mustang?
My only comment is that I had wished they left that front facia for the GT500s and not have them on all models. That facia is what separated them from the others and when I saw one of the in the rear view mirror, I knew it was a GT500.

I prefer the 2010-2012 facias.

But I think this is all part of Ford's "trapezoid" front facia (as Ford calls it) they are going for on all models
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tom_vilsack
would Hyundai build a giant ugly loads of plastic front end?=check

would Hyundai use a cheapo glossy rear tail light treatment...and black plastic around rear plate?=check

would Hyundai try and make there V6 look the same as there $$$$$ Shelby?=check

would Hyundai have optional pony spotlight onto ground from side mirrors (rice rice rice rice rice rice)?=check

so yes...very serious!
You don't think a 550 Benz looks like an amg Benz ? You don't think the m3 BMW looks similar to a 335 .... How about the jag xf...does it not look very similar to the xf-r ?

Ford did the right thing with the mustang....it time to start comparing it to the higher end brands....not the Korean least expensive brands in the market.

I hope the 2015 gets all wheel drive as an option and F1 paddle shifting ....the Shelby should compete with porsches,vetts,astons....the 5.0 should compete with the baby Benz amg , m3 bimmers, Audi s versions.....not with a hyandai genesis.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by cinque35
i hate everything about it, the '13 is stupid and ugly and anyone who likes it is mentally retarded!
btw my window sticker showed up today.. being built on 3/20
I hate you! Well not really, I'm just a lil jealous. Us track pack suckers are still waiting. Congrats! Can't wait to see the pix when you get it.
lol will do, no track pac for me, this GT's a daily driver..
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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I hate waiting until this Friday to pick mine up . But I know that it will be worth it.
So close, yet so far away! I can't wait to see the pics when it gets there, john_688!

Deysha

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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Want2GoFaster
I don't hate - who could hate a Mustang?
My only comment is that I had wished they left that front facia for the GT500s and not have them on all models. That facia is what separated them from the others and when I saw one of the in the rear view mirror, I knew it was a GT500.

I prefer the 2010-2012 facias.

But I think this is all part of Ford's "trapezoid" front facia (as Ford calls it) they are going for on all models
You'll be able to tell the '13 GT500s by the gaping black maw staring at you in your mirrors, along with bits and pieces of chewed-up ZL1's around the edges.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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I hope the 2015 gets all wheel drive as an option and F1 paddle shifting ....the Shelby should compete with porsches,vetts,astons....the 5.0 should compete with the baby Benz amg , m3 bimmers, Audi s versions.....not with a hyandai genesis.
awd in a mustang? thats a crap idea at best. I have hated every single paddle shifter I have ever used. The shelby already hangs with those cars. The mustang V6 competes with the genesis and beats it currently. The 5.0 boss already handles the m3.

Not trying to be mean.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kcoTiger

You'll be able to tell the '13 GT500s by the gaping black maw staring at you in your mirrors, along with bits and pieces of chewed-up ZL1's around the edges.
Not to mention a couple M and AMG badges stuck to the tires and rocker panels
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by redneb
Totally agree with this. I have a 2004 Solara convertible. Toyota kept this design for 7 years.
And how does the 2013 Solara look? Oh wait...

As Overboost explained so eloquently, the auto industry as a whole has shortened product lifecycles over the past decade and to remain competitive and even grow, Ford made the decision not long after Mulally came in that they would refresh every 2-3 years with all-new models every 5-6 years. Best example of it yet was the Fusion but the F-150 (all new engines last year) is another. Going forward, it'll be the norm and I think it's great.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
awd in a mustang? thats a crap idea at best. I have hated every single paddle shifter I have ever used. The shelby already hangs with those cars. The mustang V6 competes with the genesis and beats it currently. The 5.0 boss already handles the m3. Not trying to be mean.
^ This
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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The mustang is still a muscle car. Every fiber of the GT500 says muscle, not euro-refinement. I don't think the '15 mustang would sell well if it was designed to compete with beamers and benzes...it would require an entirely new customer base, as most mustang fans would go elsewhere for their pony cars. I don't want a BMW in a ford body. I want a mustang. I think the IRS is as "Euro" as it's going to get. Just my 2€
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