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So when does the Boss 428 or 429 come out?

Old Dec 18, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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So when does the Boss 428 or 429 come out?

why not right? put the 5.4 non supercharger w/ 500 plus hp's.Ford milks every model so i say why not since we just got a Boss 302.Anyone hear of any talk from Ford on this?
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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Boss 302 is called as such because it has a 302 cubic inch motor in it. Boss 428/429 would imply engines of those respective sizes. A 5.4 is only 330 cubic inches so that just wouldn't add up.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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Not happening. Next.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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There also never was any Mustang called a "Boss 428" so that is a non starter.

And yes, as others have pointed out there is no Ford production engine that is anywhere near to 429 CID any more.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Half past never...
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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hey, u never know!!! took them 40 years to come out w/

the 302..the cube doesnt have to be exactly for it to be called 429..maybe even go w/ the ford 6.2..i know its wishful thinking but u never know
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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We'll never see again anything with such big displacement numbers or name. With CAFE standards and global warming issues, no way will FoMoCo ever build such engines again. There is too many other alternatives out there for Ford not to use them.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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The biggest engine I could see them doing now would be a 351. Speaking of, there was just one at PRI.

And elvis, it might not be exact in terms of ci numbers, but there are specific numbers that carry a lot of weight. Companies aren't going to recreate a bunch of oddball sizes.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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i hear u guys..i know its highly unlikely ever happening but when i mentioned to a buddy of mine that ford came out with the 302 he said "who's to say a 429 isnt next" i said your right,u never know. Roush calls his Mustang 427R and we all know its not. Anyway, i just figure i bring it up for the heck of it..I dont want to stir any feud!!
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Roush 427R was originally to refer to horsepower, for Ford to do the same would be taking a setp backwards since the 5.0 is already rated up to 440 HP.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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The Corvette Z06's LS-7 boasts 427 cubic inches. That said, I don't see Ford going that direction at this point.

So-called global warming is the biggest scam ever pulled on Western Civilization. No matter what proof is presented to refute it (actual temperature data, e-mails between government-employed scientists admitting to altering data, etc.) people inexplicably still buy into anthropomorphic global warming as fact in lieu of the fantasy it is. This on top of the recent admission by a U.N. "climate change" panel member that the main purpose of the U.N. panel's existence was to "redistribute wealth", not actually solve anything.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Double-EDad
So-called global warming is the biggest scam ever pulled on Western Civilization. No matter what proof is presented to refute it (actual temperature data, e-mails between government-employed scientists admitting to altering data, etc.) people inexplicably still buy into anthropomorphic global warming as fact in lieu of the fantasy it is. This on top of the recent admission by a U.N. "climate change" panel member that the main purpose of the U.N. panel's existence was to "redistribute wealth", not actually solve anything.
What does that have to do with the topic of this thread?
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Double-EDad
The Corvette Z06's LS-7 boasts 427 cubic inches. That said, I don't see Ford going that direction at this point.

So-called global warming is the biggest scam ever pulled on Western Civilization. No matter what proof is presented to refute it (actual temperature data, e-mails between government-employed scientists admitting to altering data, etc.) people inexplicably still buy into anthropomorphic global warming as fact in lieu of the fantasy it is. This on top of the recent admission by a U.N. "climate change" panel member that the main purpose of the U.N. panel's existence was to "redistribute wealth", not actually solve anything.
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What does that have to do with the topic of this thread?
I'm not sure but I agree with 100%. Now I will go try to warm the earth with my 412hp ecological nightmare. It's fookin' freezing in NJ tonight so I hope the locals appreciate the warm front that will move in when the 5.0 comes to life.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Double-EDad
The Corvette Z06's LS-7 boasts 427 cubic inches. That said, I don't see Ford going that direction at this point.

So-called global warming is the biggest scam ever pulled on Western Civilization. No matter what proof is presented to refute it (actual temperature data, e-mails between government-employed scientists admitting to altering data, etc.) people inexplicably still buy into anthropomorphic global warming as fact in lieu of the fantasy it is. This on top of the recent admission by a U.N. "climate change" panel member that the main purpose of the U.N. panel's existence was to "redistribute wealth", not actually solve anything.
Preach my brother....
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 08:13 PM
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scam of the decade!!!!!
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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Consider for a moment that the Boss 429 was conceived initially for NASCAR use. It was never quick on the street as it had crescent heads, camming, and carburetion set up for high speed ovals.

Fast forward to 2011 when Ford will replace the Fusion with Mustangs in NASCAR. This would be a great opportunity to capitalize on Mustang's return to NASCAR with some sort of big cubed engine and a special edition Boss model for the NASCAR crowd. While the 6.2L V8 in the 2011 Ford Trucks isn't big enough, I do remember reading about Don Bowles testing a 7.0L (roughly 429 cubic inch) V8 that looked based on the OHV 6.2L V8. Don is associated with Jack Roush, who just happens to do a lot of engineering for Ford.

Ford brought back our beloved road racing Boss (the 2012 Boss 302), so it's not out of the question to think a NASCAR Boss (Boss 429) could be under consideration, as well?
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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That would be sick as hell. I would love a Boss 429, here's hoping.

Now about that mach 1...
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
Consider for a moment that the Boss 429 was conceived initially for NASCAR use. It was never quick on the street as it had crescent heads, camming, and carburetion set up for high speed ovals.

Fast forward to 2011 when Ford will replace the Fusion with Mustangs in NASCAR. This would be a great opportunity to capitalize on Mustang's return to NASCAR with some sort of big cubed engine and a special edition Boss model for the NASCAR crowd. While the 6.2L V8 in the 2011 Ford Trucks isn't big enough, I do remember reading about Don Bowles testing a 7.0L (roughly 429 cubic inch) V8 that looked based on the OHV 6.2L V8. Don is associated with Jack Roush, who just happens to do a lot of engineering for Ford.

Ford brought back our beloved road racing Boss (the 2012 Boss 302), so it's not out of the question to think a NASCAR Boss (Boss 429) could be under consideration, as well?
Except that there is no need for a motor that size since it doesn't fit within the NASCAR rules.

Maybe do something on that order for NHRA like they did for the current Cobra Jet.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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Global warming = big money. Follow the money.

Scam.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
What does that have to do with the topic of this thread?
Someone earlier than my post had mentioned "global warming issues" as a reason we wouldn't see a Boss 429, which got me going. Sorry I didn't properly reference what I was responding to.

To my earlier rant, I think most of us can agree that at this point a 429 just may not be necessary given the 5.0's efficiency and the availability of supercharging. The days of the 8 mpg huge displacement multi-carb motors has come and gone, but it doesn't mean we are ready for a plug-in electric just yet. (no reference for that one, just spinning down now)
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