Hi Everyone,


Anyone have any experience with rustproofing at the dealer? I have been looking around and there are quite a few reputable places like Krown, not sure about ziebart. I think I have one near me.


anyway, Krown charges about $120 to do your whole car and recommends treating your car once a year. I'm fine with this. The only thing I don't like is that they drill holes in several areas and then cap them later in order to treat your car. this is a deal breaker for me.


Then I called the dealership. they want $300 and its a one time deal. guaranteed for the life of the car.


the service rep at ford couldn't tell me anymore about the warranty, the product, covereage. nothing.


Deysha, I'm wondering if you could provide me with more information about the process, what type of product is used and how the warranty works.


I'm also going to look into ziebart as I understand they use a different type of compound. some kind of rubber material under the car.


any feedback is appreciated!

 

Bump... ziebart is only in the US. found lots of other places like Krown which is a no go for me.


there are products like this


http://diamonddetailing.50webs.com/g..._proofing.html


used something like this on my wife's 2008 Tucson. it didn't work. car still bubbled with rust etc.


BTW. Located in Ontario (Toronto area)

 

Compared to back in the 60's/70's and early 80's, you really don't see many rusted cars....at least not like back then when it seemed like every car older than 3 years was rusting out........in my opinion it is a waste of money with current technology.....

 

I have to agree with Jeff. It may help give your car a quieter ride but I don't think it will do much in the way of rust prevention that the car manufacturer hasn't already done. I had it done to a my 2k stang and they got that stuff everywhere. On the wheels, outer body panels and various other places I didn't want that stuff. I forget why I went for it other than it must have been at a cut rate.

 

This is an aftermarket product, JoeMidnight. Therefore your service manager is in the best position to advise you on this.

Deysha

 

Have been in a Dealership for years. (Not Ford). But all Dealers sell forms of this. Mostly what you are purchasing is the Warranty that goes with the product. And in most cases it will not benefit you in anyway shape or form no matter what they say. If you have the means to do it yourself I would. You can buy a nice undercoat product and apply it yourself. Just do some online research and educate yourself as to what products are good. Had a coworker purchase a brand new Eco Boost F150. Had our body shop install the under coating. He did not purchase the Warranty with it... Anyway they got overspray in several places that he spent hours cleaning up. In the long run he regretted not doing it himself.

 

I totally agree with you guys. I'm not really interested in having them pull off virtually everything to get their product into every square inch of the car. this is how the car will especially get dirt everywhere, under the hood included. not to mention that even if I got the car sprayed, there's still no guarantee that anything will be warrantied.


I have no faith in the electronic modules either. I've been doing a lot of reading and its been shown that it just can't work in vehicles.


I spoke to a guy that installs the electronic device. He said that its backed by a 10 year warranty. He was pretty honest. He said that this won't prevent the car from rusting. the idea behind the product is to "try" and slow down from any rust breaking out, if it were to start in any area.


He also mentioned that he hasn't had to put in any claims and has been selling the product and supports a few dealerships in the area. Said that as long as rust is reported ASAP, there shouldn't be any issues submitting a claim.


I don't know. He seemed pretty honest by telling me that the product doesn't do what everyone else selling it claims it will do. (It could be because I already told him that I thought that the product in general is bogus)


I feel like I should try to do something to better protect this car. Even if it means I pay $400 to have the electronic device installed to have even a remote chance of having any rust issues rectified over the next 10 years.


Oil is just not an option. I don't want that crap under my hood or undercarriage of my clean car or on any electrical components. Everything will just stick to that and will drive me crazy!

 

You don't neede4d it. Most Car companies will void your rust warranty if you apply it. Nowadays it is a waist of money.

 

I am sure he would love to sell it to you

 

Just to interject, most of the warranties are for when rust PERFORATION occurs. As in a hole through the whole panel. Unless you've got a Hyundai Pony from the 80's or a serious manufacturer defect, that is never going to happen.

Normal "rusting" is never covered by these warranties - e.g. Rust flakes at the edge of a panel, or even a rust spot in the middle of the panel are not covered (unless you can see through a rust hole!).

ERGO, the warranty is (almost always) useless. That leaves you evaluating whether or not you believe the product actually works. They will always give you the "new formula" line - so, you've got no proof of anything until it either works or doesn't work in the 7 year or whatever warranty period.

However, that being said... anecdotal evidence from a few friends indicates that the yearly Crown treatment may actually delay the inevitable - however, it leaves a heck of a mess on your driveway once a year.

 

Thanks for the all of your input guys and gals! I've decided to just drive the car. i'm not doing anything to it. if it rusts, fine. if it doesn't, fine. i'm going to just drive it and treat it for what it is, a car.

 

You got it, Joe. They're great cars, but the bottom line is that it's just (replaceable) machinery. Oh sure, we take the normal precautions and give them the care a significant investment deserves, but cars are just transportation, not idols to worship.

 

Just wash and wax it once in a while...just find a 24 hour coin wash and bring your buckets late at night and you can dry it in there and wax it too.

 

FALSE.
Early 2000s cars are really starting to get the tin worm...at least around here (in New England). I don't believe many advances in rustproofing have come about since cars were galvanized in the 60s(?)...it's just the skewed perspective of seeing mostly newer cars in our daily lives that makes it seem like newer cars don't rust. They do.

If you don't pull your Mustang from salty road driving duty, it too will rust. Washing helps...but it's not going to get the salt out of every seam and crack.

SN95s (indluding the "new edge" cars) are really starting to rot out around the rear wheel arches. So sad.

The big three's pickup trucks, Nissans and Mazdas are the worst offenders. Some Subarus rust like crazy, others don't seem to rust at all.

 

Yeah...this helps but it's the undercarriage and the nooks in the sheet metal that the car wash just isn't going to help with and this is where the rust always starts.

Even the underbody spray washes sometimes just push the salt and stuff up deeper.

 

I use Rust Check coat and protect on the under carriage of my winter vehicles....Zero rust.

Im careful to repair rock chips and do wash the under carriage at a coin car wash several times throughout the winter.

Im noticing a lot more rusty vehicles due to the super corrosive solution they use on the roads.


Unless you plan to keep your car for more than a few years, I wouldnt bother with the rust protection.