no, but they would do a twin turbo v-6
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Originally Posted by mach1fever
(Post 1025665)
no, but they would do a twin turbo v-6
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Sounds like GM will have 2 V6 options.
A base and a 300hp V6 Wonder if the 3.5Tforce is going to be its direct competition or a SE package. |
You would think the same thing about the f150 but thats whats going in the new reskin. Better fuel economy.
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Originally Posted by Knight
(Post 1025626)
mmmmm, twin turbo.....
I'm guessing the mustang GT. will come with a N/A 5.0 rated at about 375hp. There is no way they are going to put a 5.0TT in a base GT. And by this point even the argument that a turbo options adds cost doesn't hold as much water, at least no when the same is employed in high voume applications, since mainstream turbo options allow Ford to offer several different V8 engines with vastly different peak power output and torque curves without the need to offer several different engine displacements which limits flexibility and increasing the need for rigid production plans, etc.....which increases costs. Covering more bases with the same basic block and heads means fewer part numbers in the factories, a far more flexible manufacturing system, and lower costs on the books, even after taking the cost of the turbo systems themselves into consideration. |
The only reason i say that it will not be TT in GT form is that a 5.0 even with super low boost will be putting out 450hp minimum. There is no way a 2010 mustang GT that can be had for just over 25k will have that kind of hp.
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I agree which is why I think it may be with direct injection. But ford is supposed to be swinging back toward pushrod and larger displacement. I do know that twin force is slated for the new f150.
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Originally Posted by Knight
(Post 1025859)
The only reason i say that it will not be TT in GT form is that a 5.0 even with super low boost will be putting out 450hp minimum. There is no way a 2010 mustang GT that can be had for just over 25k will have that kind of hp.
If Chevy does have something like this planned which seems extremely likely, and Ford knows it which is also very likely, then a 425-450hp Mustang GT for 2010-2011 isn't that much of a stretch. Since a low pressure, turbo 5.0L V8 could easily fall within that range of power this isn't a huge stretch. Further, if Ford doesm have plans to slot a naturally aspirated 'budget V8' offering in under the new GT, a move which is entirely believable given the push for resonably priced alternatives to the GT, the GT coupe might grow into a 28-30k plus car which makes the above even more believable. Virtually all of the above is mere speculation, but it fits into a scenario which leaves room for a realistic, low dollar, twin turbo V8 Mustang GT wether the engine is standard or optional. |
as good as all that sounds, one can only hope, wait, and see if Ford sees things the same way.
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Originally Posted by mach1fever
(Post 1025928)
I agree which is why I think it may be with direct injection. But ford is supposed to be swinging back toward pushrod and larger displacement. I do know that twin force is slated for the new f150.
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There is that experimental engine running around in the yellow Roush drag car - rumored to be a big-inch pushrod engine.
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Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1025692)
Sounds like GM will have 2 V6 options.
A base and a 300hp V6 Wonder if the 3.5Tforce is going to be its direct competition or a SE package. On thing that Ford hasn't said much of anything about is DI on NA engines. One would have to think that if Ford management has any brains we'll see DI brought to all Ford engines, NA and PI. |
Originally Posted by hi5.0
(Post 1025965)
There is that experimental engine running around in the yellow Roush drag car - rumored to be a big-inch pushrod engine.
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Originally Posted by Knight
(Post 1025859)
The only reason i say that it will not be TT in GT form is that a 5.0 even with super low boost will be putting out 450hp minimum. There is no way a 2010 mustang GT that can be had for just over 25k will have that kind of hp.
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Originally Posted by V10
(Post 1025991)
A TF 5.0 V8 should be easily capable of >500 HP and 600 HP with any sort of modest boost.
There is absolutely no reason why Ford couldn't produce a 5.0L TT V8 designed primarily for driveability, an accessable power range (great low end and mid range torque), and above average mileage that makes a bit less than 450hp. In fact, there are several factors which make the same a great idea and virtually nothing to detract from the positives. Potentially cost, mileage, emissions, driveability, and tunability all stand to gain from the use of a low pressure 5.0L TT V8 in lieu of a larger displacement V8. Wether Ford will build something like this is another question entirely. But coupled with a truly budget minded n/a V8 sister 'LX' style car the same would represent the kind of innovation which could once again cast the Mustang as the undisputed leader in budget minded performance that works in the real worold. |
Originally Posted by hi5.0
(Post 1025965)
There is that experimental engine running around in the yellow Roush drag car - rumored to be a big-inch pushrod engine.
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I'm morally opposed to the LX tag as it brings to mind big family sedans with faux wood panels. If there's going to be a model between the base and GT, they/we need to think up a more interesting name.
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Originally Posted by bob
(Post 1026210)
Nope, that is Don Knowles car and it is most definetly an OHC engine. By the looks of it I'd say it was a 2v Mod motor - Don Knowles is attatched to Roush and Roush has mentioned working on big inch mod motors in the neighborhood of 6 liters.
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Originally Posted by hi5.0
(Post 1026251)
Oh well, just repeating what the mag said, although I also have heard the rumors about that engine being a OHC design. Guess I was being hopeful in addition to being wrong. :doh: So the "Hurricane/Boss" or whatever that engine development program is called wasn't destined to be a new family of pushrod engines for truck and eventually car applications? :dunno:
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....and TwinForce
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