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Old 7/26/10 | 06:51 AM
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Remote start on manual?

Is it possible?

Anyone here do it before?

That is one option i'm missing from my old car.
Old 7/26/10 | 06:54 AM
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Don't do it. Its an accident waiting to happen. it doesn't matter how careful you are.
Old 7/26/10 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by codeman94
Don't do it. Its an accident waiting to happen. it doesn't matter how careful you are.
Old 7/26/10 | 06:57 AM
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Don't do it. Its an accident waiting to happen. it doesn't matter how careful you are.
Accident?

Wouldn't there be some sort of switch in place that would require the car to be in neutral?

I just came across that article about the guy who had the dealer put his mustang into the pond because there was no safety switch.
Old 7/26/10 | 07:09 AM
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You can get a neutral switch. But the habit to leave my car in first is so strong I would never be able to use a remote start haha.
Old 7/26/10 | 07:29 AM
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it's possible. i have a friend who has remote start on a manual. he has to park the car in a very specific sequence for it to activate. i think it's something like, "brake on, clutch in, neutral, pull emergency brake, brake off," and if he doesn't do it in that specific order, it wont activate.

it's safe as long as you don't bypass the safety systems, like the idiot who drove his into a pond - or any of the other horror stories you hear.
Old 7/26/10 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RedWings
Is it possible?

Anyone here do it before?

That is one option i'm missing from my old car.

had one in my 95 for 15 years with NO issues .. yes its possible..
no is not as bad as some in this thread have made it out to be.
altho i have seen first hand some things that will make you laugh..

either a neutral saftey switch can be made very eassily out of 2 magnets and 2 magnetic switches sold in packages and used in car alarms..

or you can do a precise sequence which gets annoying after about 2 weeks..
Old 7/26/10 | 08:59 AM
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There is a reason Ford only allows this on automatic cars. Their is no way not to bypass part of the factory safeties. The clutch safety switch. If you do go forward with this make sure you use a neutral safety switch.

Never give anyone other than yourself access to the aftermarket fob with the "start" button on it. Always supply any service personal with the OEM Fob and I would still pull the fuse just in case.

I dont really see the point to remote starting. At operating temp an hour of idle is the equivalent to 31 miles of driving in engine wear and oil degradation and much worse when the car is at suboptimal temps.
Old 7/26/10 | 09:09 AM
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If you wind up getting a remote starter, make sure to never leave your keys laying out of your sight. I bought an alarm / remote starter that had a 1/4 mile transmitter so I could start it from high school and work, it also had a screen on it which indicated if the mustang was started or had the alarm activated / tripped. Instead of doing research and purchasing a manual transmission remote starter, I just bypassed the clutch switch like an idiot when my cousin and I were installing the system. One day I was outside working, and the keys were in a drawer inside the pro shop, all of a sudden we heard something smash down in the parking lot so a couple of us drove a golf cart down to see what happened, and we saw my mustang smashed into 2 cars head on. So my word of caution is if you wind up getting one, don't bypass the clutch switch, get a starter made for manuals, and don't leave your keys out of your sight, because it leads to people and or bosses being curious about what different buttons on a remote do.
Old 7/26/10 | 09:32 AM
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Old 7/26/10 | 10:10 AM
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Please don't do it on a manual. You never know when something might mess up. I have it on my automatic V-6.
Old 7/26/10 | 10:53 AM
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I've read good things about Viper's manual mode remote start. Like mentioned above, the sequence of events prohibits a dealer or service to engage the remote start.
Old 7/26/10 | 12:17 PM
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Do not do it. Just my 2 cents.
Old 7/26/10 | 12:20 PM
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i feel like it would be much easier for an OEM to engineer a system that detects if the tranny is in neutral and the parking brake on. with all the auto cars ford is engineering this into it would make sense to develop a manual version. The cars PCM already knows what gear you are in for the skip shift to work, it doesn't seem like it would be too hard for ford to develop.
Old 7/26/10 | 12:30 PM
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The sequence for the Viper remote starters seems like a big PIA. Especially since if you open the door after doing the sequence, it resets everything and you can't use the remote start unless you go through the sequence again.


Originally Posted by xlover
i feel like it would be much easier for an OEM to engineer a system that detects if the tranny is in neutral and the parking brake on. with all the auto cars ford is engineering this into it would make sense to develop a manual version. The cars PCM already knows what gear you are in for the skip shift to work, it doesn't seem like it would be too hard for ford to develop.
This is what I don't understand either. Maybe in the future
Old 7/26/10 | 02:04 PM
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I want one so badly

But I would NEVER do it unless it came OEM
Old 7/26/10 | 02:07 PM
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I don't live near a pond... will this work in my manual?
Old 7/26/10 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by erickburke
I've read good things about Viper's manual mode remote start. Like mentioned above, the sequence of events prohibits a dealer or service to engage the remote start.
So have I, apparently what you have to do is set the parking brake, leave the car running in neutral, get everyone else out of the car, press a button on the key fob, turn the key off (the engine stays running), exit the car, press the key fob again and the remote starter locks the doors and shuts the engine off.

If any of the doors are opened without remote starting it first the system locks out the remote start function (because maybe someone put it into gear) until the sequence is repeated.
Old 7/26/10 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by OAC_Sparky
So have I, apparently what you have to do is set the parking brake, leave the car running in neutral, get everyone else out of the car, press a button on the key fob, turn the key off (the engine stays running), exit the car, press the key fob again and the remote starter locks the doors and shuts the engine off.

If any of the doors are opened without remote starting it first the system locks out the remote start function (because maybe someone put it into gear) until the sequence is repeated.
That's an excellent description to discourage customers from buying it. I'd NEVER do that.

But thanks for putting that in writing, Sparky. It was helpful.
Old 7/26/10 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by corvettedreamin
That's an excellent description to discourage customers from buying it. I'd NEVER do that.

But thanks for putting that in writing, Sparky. It was helpful.
I called an installer today and he gave me the same, or very similar, process that had to be followed. By the last step I was like at Viper.

Can we not just figure out a way for the Remote Starter system/computer to check (a) is the car in neutral and (b) is the parking break engaged?. If no to either, don't start the f'n car.



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