Ordering TWO 2013 Mustangs. Am I crazy?
 

Ok, so this is going to be my introduction post plus a pretty thorough description of what I plan to get and if I'm just a little crazy :D

So in the summer of 2005, I ordered my first Mustang. This was the first year of the new retro body style and the 300 HP 4.6 V8. This was like the hottest car of that year, and I got one of the first in Seattle, I ordered the GT Premium in Redfire with the concept wheels, Shaker 1000, every option including (unfortunately) Automatic. This car became the love of my life, and I learned to drive that Mustang like I stole it. I had never even owned a rear wheel drive car let alone a V8 muscle RWD car. I whipped it around corners, I gunned the V8, I basically drove it and still drive it with a passion I've never had for any other car. I am apparently someone designed for the Mustang or a similar type car and I had no idea, because I drove that thing like people drove muscle cars in 70s movies :D. Anyway, getting to my point, the one purchase in my life in which I had COMPLETE 100% satisfaction, and have for 7 years now. I still get a smile on my face when I drive it today.

That's my background. :D Now let's get to me today. I saw the 2013 Mustang and after years and years of loving my car, I finally decided it was time for a new one. I have to admit I was totally intrigued when they reintroduced the 5.0 in 2011, because hey a new motor with more HP is a great thing, but nothing motivated me to want to actually jump back into the game than this 2013. I love the LEDs, I love the new front and back, and I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new track package with the Brembos, Torsen, etc. I'm also a lot more advanced in my career after 7 years and can basically choose any Mustang, so I was trying to decide. The only one thing I know is I have to get a stick, and I have to learn how to drive a stick. I can't be the one anymore who owns a GT that's an automatic :D Now that's all well and good, I am determined and I will learn. If I set my mind to something, I will do it, that's just me.

Now I started out thinking about the Boss, then I thought about the Shelby. I am inclined to somewhat of a cheapness and practicality streak, just one of my inherent flaws. I couldn't justify the Shelby, and I decided that I couldn't live with the Boss's interior as I want all of the options I can get. Now luckily, they vastly improved the GT since I bought mine in 2005. So I figure the combination of 420 horsepower, a new stick shift, and the track pack will put someone like me in such a whole new league of Mustang, so close to the Boss, etc that I won't really need to get a Boss or Shelby yet in my life. Start with an attainable goal I say. Well it helps that I qualify for X-Plan through work so I can get the GT for easy discount, but not the Boss or the Shelby. So my option 1 was decided:

First Mustang:
1) 2013 Mustang GT Premium
2) 6 speed
3) Race Red exterior
4) Charcoal with cashmere 401 interior
5) track pack
6) comfort package
7) Shaker Pro (solely because I loved my Shaker 1000 SO MUCH)
And that's it. No other options, none that I liked. I think the tech package is drastically overpriced for a large GPS and I don't need that in a muscle car.

So what do you guys think of my primary Mustang choice so far based on my history? I have to learn to drive a stick, but I think it's as solid as a primary choice as I can make.

So now this left me with another question. I always have two cars, a fun sports car which I put very few miles on, and then a more commuter mainstream car. I've gone over this in my head about 1000 times but I think I've totally decided that I want to trade away all of my cars, and get a second Mustang as well. Now you can tell me if I'm crazy. First of all, I don't want to commute with a stick I'm just learning how to drive, and rack up miles on my 2013 GT. And the more I thought about it, the more I convinced myself that I'd somehow love a convertible, and since I already have the GT, I could get a 2013 V6 Premium Convertible Mustang Automatic. Sounds a bit crazy at first I know, but with X-Plan, both cars would would run around $65,000 total for two cars, and my trades will net me about $15K, and I have another 5K in cash, so I'm looking to finance about $45K. Now my reasonable side inside me is a little shocked by my decision. But I figure there are a ton of snobs at work who drop 50-70K every day on some Audi, etc, when I could spend this amount, justify it in in my head, and have the fastest car at work, and then a Convertible which I've always wanted but never had as a commuter. I think it's a good decision.

Second Mustang:
1) 2013 Mustang V6 Premium Convertible
2) Automatic
3) Black Exterior
4) Black Roof Color
5) Saddle Leather Interior
6) 201A (V6 Exterior Appearance Package)
7) Tape Stripe Delete (201A comes with a tape
stripe unless this option is also added removing it, want it clean and black)
- Comfort Package (So I get the heated seats on the convertible)

So I like this option a lot, a clean black Mustang convertible with an awesome Saddle Premium leather interior.

So am I crazy or is this a good path to go down?? Thanks so much!

This is a decision you have to make for yourself. Kudos to you that two Mustangs are in the realm of possibility for you.,

Now, since you asked... I think you should commit 100% to the manual transmission. From your self-introduction, you will find that the manual transmission is what you have been waiting for all your life.

Instead of learning to drive a manual transmission in your brand new, supremely powerful Mustang, I'd suggest you buy a learner vehicle at the same time you order your Mustang. Something used, less than 150 hp, that you can sell after you take delivery of your new Stang. You can get through the steepest part of your learning curve in the weeks between ordering & delivery.

I'd rather have a gt500 and a beater than a gt and a v6.

Crazy? Yes. But both the 5.0 and V6 are awesome cars. The V6 with performance package is the best DD money can buy IMO.
But I don't see the GT as something that needs to be "protected" from high mileage and the MPG's aren't so bad that it is prohibitive to drive to work.
Both are great cars. Two cars means twice the depreciation though.

Since you're asking for opinions; I say buy a GT, drive it every day, love it hard, and trade it in on whatever the next special edition is (Shelby, new Boss variant, whatever). You'll be comfortable driving the stick by then. I would rather have one amazing car than two that everyone else has.

No matter what you do you'll be happy. Good luck!

Ditto advice from me....

Get a limited edition Shelby or Boss and then get a much cheaper DD

While I'm inclined to say Shelby all the way do what you want to do. All the '13 models have tons to offer and like you said even the V6 is pretty sweet. Shelby is pretty tempting though!

Get a GT500 or Boss and a beater. No need for two Mustangs.

With the 65K figure you listed, here's what I'd order:

2013 Boss 302 in School Bus Yellow

• Boss 302 Accessory Package
• Recaro Seats and Helical Differential

$45,465 MSRP


2013 Focus SE in Race Red

• Moonroof
• Winter Package

$21,555 MSRP


Yeah, I went over a little bit but they'll probably give you a discount.



Or...you could get a loaded Mustang GT and a sweet new Focus ST for your DD with that same amount of money.



Great problem to have man!

^^ good idea - get a boss or a GT and a separate DD - trust me, if you get a v8 mustang you won't wanna drive the v6...

I didn't even think of the st. That's a great idea. Get the GT you described and a new focus st. Race red!

SeattleStang, I'll order both Mustangs for you for less than X-plan. I'm less than 20 miles south of Seattle, so I'm a short drive for you.

You see here is where I differ from the pack. I agree with the two Mustang theory. Why should the car your in all the time (the Daily Driver) be something not enjoyable or with the features. I too always had two cars but I had one Mustang and my daily cars were a BMW Z3 and then a Audi TT Quattro both were a blast to drive and more fun to drive then my 2006 Mustang on a lot of levels, However there were a lot of features of course I loved about my Mustang I never wanted to give up. The new 2013 Mustang has all the features my 06 had and with the package I got with the 13 made it more fun then the Z3 or TT. Being I am in a Daily car most of the time I could give up both my DD and my loved 06 Mustang for the one car I could enjoy all the time. I don't know how much you deal with traffic but I love the 6 speed and never find the fact I have to shift a chore. I love shifting and always have opted more for a Manual then an auto. In fact one of the main factors that I sold my love 06 Mustang was because it was auto.

Sounds like he WANTS to have his 2nd car/DD/beater/whatever-you-want-2-label-it be a Mustang - so what's wrong with that? So what if it's a V6? It's a Mustang...and a vert!

For me (and many, I'm sure), having a V6 stang as the "other car" would not be a let-down.

I say - great idea. Have fun!

OP--You're not crazy at all. Get both cars, as you've stated, and enjoy each for what it is. You'll enjoy each one for different reasons and purposes. Two similar but different cars.

Yes. That's ridiculous.

get a new escape awd and a nice GT and own the winter and summer.

I would say it would be cool to have both. But as a couple other guys have said I like the idea of the focus svt and the gt. Focus svt would give you decent mpg I think and then you would still have a nice gt when you wanna drive that.

You rock!

Only thing I would say is don't get your daily driver in black, it will drive you nuts trying to keep it clean and scratch free...maybe get the dd in silver....

Man, you guys are giving me ideas!!! I was thinking about getting a Focus SE as a daily driver to replace my 200k mile Civic commute car/grocery getter, but a base Focus ST is looking really appealing--32 MPG, 4 doors, and sub 6 sec 0-60. Hmm.... LOL

Just my opinion...

Keep your current car to drive until you are comfortable with stick, get the GT with manual and add the electronics package...you won't regret it. After a few months you can sell the older GT...

=Vic=

I agree with the Black comment, Don't make your DD black, But also disagree with the silver comment. Not that there is anything wrong with either color just out done. Just look at the roads these days, Black, White and silver dominate.

While you're right I rarely see a silver mustang on the road...

I'd just go with a 2013 Boss in grabber blue.

it's hard to love two mustangs at once, it's like having two girlfriends and then none of them will be special to you.

I'd just get a Boss and then a Subaru or something for daily driving and winter.

This... Is... Awesome.... Haha but from the way it sounds like you drive your mustang, you would want the gt everyday. Probably cheaper to have it only, rack up miles, then trade in for whatever you want next.

I have to agree.. No question.. A beater for every day and a GT500 is the ticket.:heh:

the problem with this idea is you would then dread the day to day driving. Umm being I am of a older generation time is precious, The time I spend in any car better be a happy time. Picture your stuck in traffic you going to love spending hours in a POS DD? I myself went from 2 cars (one was a Mustang) to one Mustang as a DD. I plan on getting new rims and mud and snow for the winter. I love the Mustang, the features, the interior, the driving, the handling etc.. I think this is what the OP was referring to to get two Mustangs. Sound idea if you ask me. If you can afford it why not?? Jealous people out there :stirpot: BTW if I could have afforded the extra $$$ for the GT it would have been my DD (v6/v8) made no difference. I may opt for a new GT in a few years and keep my 2013 as the DD.

I have 2 cars and which one is designated as the DD depends on the season. I have an SUV which is my DD whenever the weather is crappy and the mustang any other time (as long as there isn't salt or snow on the ground). I would advise to get some type of SUV because it's just so convenient having the cargo room and 4 wheel drive when you need it.

Having 2 mustangs would make it less special, in my opinion.

when I drive the suv for a couple of days and get back in the mustang, it's always such a treat.

agreed

Get the Glass Roof on the GT - then you won't need a vert! I know, not the same, but you're in Seattle - when can you actually use a convertible there anyways?! Glass Roof you can enjoy all year round, and I agree I doubt you'll want to drive the 6er once you get the new GT. I second the Escape idea. You can keep miles down on both of them. Get the EcoBoost 2.0 and it'll be pretty enjoyable in its own way!

Get a 2005-07 ford five hundred AWD limited. They are dirt cheap right now. They get great mpg and own the winter/cold. then you can get any mustang.

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I do not always own the snow.. but when I do its in a 2007 ford five hundred limited with blizzaks.

Hard to drop the top on the Focus SVT. And, the glass roof in no way compares to the top down with the 'vert.

I do like the 2 choices you've outlined, if you are going to get 2 of the same model. ;)

Personally, like many others have stated, I'd rather have 2 different vehicles. I had an '07 Charger V6/AWD, and an '02 Miata (5-spd manual). I traded in the Charger for my Mustang, so wound up with 2 sports cars. I've now sold the Miata, and after I build up the budget a bit, will probably get a nice 4x4 Pickup truck! :nice:

My choice. Full loaded 2013 Mustang GT (no glass roof or shaker 1000) + used WRX hatchback. Save some money to upgrade the GT suspension and exhaust which personally think they are a must on these cars.

Only 2 Mustangs? haha...actually I plan on doing the same, and adding a third car. My v6 I'm turning into a track beast along with all of my exterior modifications which makes it an extreme head turner. I'm going to get a GT used within the next year to fully turn into a dedicated track only car. Which means tearing it up specifically for the track so it won't be a very fun car to drive around. I'm also going to get a third car to be a winter beater and to slow down the miles I'm racking up on my beautiful v6.

My track only car will be automatic. My V6 head turner I want as a stick, and my winter beater? Who cares lol.

Do a Boss ...and the best 4 snow/ winter tires on 18 inch rims you can find ...and drive it every single day.

Find the best detailer in your area and go see him every 3 months....and enjoy life.

No reason to have 2 of these cars to have one parked. They are so good as a DD you can have your cake nd eat it too, either with the boss or the gt500

you're nuts. lol. I'm doing similar, but the opposite. Had two cars, combining them into one.

Enter 411rwhp 2005 GTO and ???fwhp 2004 New Beetle Convertible.

Combine the good....

Over 400hp - GTO
Convertible - Beetle
Cute - Beetle
Sporty - GTO
Stick - Both
Awesome radio - Beetle
Rear drive - GTO

and what do I get that is all of those in one car?

2013 Mustang GT Premium Convertible.

Ok guys, a little update. I am actually the person who listens to all of the advice I get on here. I wanted to thank you for all of the input. I read every single comment, and since I was mulling back and forth in my head anyway, your comments got me thinking at whole new crazy over analytical levels. :grin: But I must say THANK YOU.

So where am I at now? Well most of your comments did steer me to one basic direction. Get a better Mustang than the GT, and get something cheaper as a DD. Now the degrees of this are what have to make sense to me in my economical over analytical mind :grin: So I thought about the Shelby and I ruled it out, because I can't get the Shelby and then get any real daily driver. BUT I can get a Boss :grin: Where to find a boss and not get ripped off, that was the question. Hard to come by, can't get X-Plan. But I negotiated a race red Boss 302 at MSRP with the Recaro torsen package! It;'s RACE RED!! Which I love!

Someone tell me I should do this, I need the push! I'll get some cheap Focus S automatic as my commuter car. Ok what am I regretting and what's the final hang up? God I will miss the leather seats, the Shaker 1000, but I can live with that. Because the one unmistakable thing I loved about my 05 Mustang above everything else was that rear end kicking out RWD powering through turns, and hearing the V8. And every review I have ever seen on the Boss says it does that in spades. And that in many ways it's better than the Shelby in those respects.

I think that's also a good idea. The boss is a mean machine. And just like you said its perfect! Race red! As far as a DD I think a focus is a great car. My wife has an '11 and it's sweet. Good features offered, good gas mileage, plus you can get x plan and I'm pretty sure they have some rebates going on now. Probably even more for a labor day sale. Go for the boss! Then scoop up a focus with a sweet rebate.

Admittedly I am biased, but I can honestly say you will not regret getting the Boss. I was in a similar situation a few weeks back. I was debating between getting a fully loaded GT or a Boss. I ended up getting a deal on the Boss for $2k plus under MSRP so I went that route.

Race Red is the fastest Boss too. Do it.
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If it was my money (and I wish it was :grin:), I would do the Boss and Focus option. So, that has my vote - do it!

I respect the Shelby, but if I had the means to get a Shelby, I would still get a Boss. So, to me, the Boss would be the definite.

However, while the Focus ST is an awesome option, I personally would also check out a WRX and/or a Nissan Xterra (or whatever SUV of your choosing) before making a decision on my second vehicle.

Good luck!

good luck on your decision, I like the boss but I to love the leather so if I went with Recardo's they would have to be leather + if I was spending the money also get the Shaker you want.. I have seen on here where guys we sad they did not get what the wanted.

Get the Boss 302! Sorry I couldn't get one for you! I trust you worked out fair trade values for the escape, truck, and mustang. You'll have to visit sometime with the Boss...

Brian your professional advice helped me tremendously today and im still considering your dealership for other aspects. I will keep in touch

So glad I could be of assistance! In between our emails back and forth today, one of my previous customers visited. Late last year, I sold him a new Kona Blue '12 Boss 302 that his wife uses as a daily driver. He wants a School Bus Yellow '13 Boss 302 so they can have his & hers Boss 302's. It was painful to tell both of you that we're sold out. I sure wish Ford would build enough to satisfy demand!

Well guys this story has a bad end for the Boss in my life. :-) Also known as my continuing but now ending saga. So since the last time i spoke to you all, i was ecstatic to learn that rebates on the 2013 mustangs has risen from $1000 to $1500!! That along with my $750 coupon puts me now at $2250 rebates on top of my already near invoice xplan price. I also sadly learned that not only do i not qualify for xplan on the boss (which i knew and knew they offered me msrp) but i then come to find out today that the boss doesnt qualify for the 2013 mustang rebates either!! Well that was news to me because i assumed i would pay the 45k msrp for the boss but atleast i would get the increased 1500 rebate in combo with my coupon. I was sadly mistaken and thats what they call the straw that broke the camels back. Get this with my xplan and new rebates i can get my race red gt premium with track pack, comfort pack, 401a interior, shaker pro for 35k after all incentives. Thats as fully loaded a mustang as i need and with the track pack about 90% of a boss. I can no longer justify the 45k for the boss and the increased rebates sealed the deal for me. Gt premium track pack it is and im pleasex as punch finally.

I'm with this guy.

Boss is just out. The rebates sealed it as i said. Not a chance that i justify that price anymore. Oh and even more positive news is that ill now get my v6 premium convertible for even cheaper. Im saving 10k by not getting the boss which further reinforces my convertible buy. Decision made.

As long as you are happy is the main thing.. Are you still doing Black?? Very hard to keep a DD in Black. Love the Grey.. Also DIB.. Of course not everyone loves GTHIG like I do.. :)

with 65k go buy an E92 M3..

Well it being a V6 convertible i really have no choice but to go black. :-) otherwise it would be even more of a girls car even though ilove the flashier colors.

Cant stand bmws. End of story. I mean who actually likes that horrible 90s curvey styling they use on every damned bmw? And i cant stand that transmission. But im a lover of american v8s

just sayin its a better car for the money.. and it comes in a stick not just DCT

I wouldn't get two mustangs I Would get me a mustang and a truck :)

Have you thought about a Camaro convertible? Personally I thinks it looks better the Mustang convertible plus is something different than the Mustang GT.

If you've already ordered the cars, congratulations. They're both great vehicles that I have no doubt you will love.

BUT if you haven't ordered yet I implore you to search out a deal on the Boss. This EXACT same situation (except for buying the V6 on the side, heh) played out with me a little over three weeks ago. I was getting invoice minus rebates on a fully loaded GT and no one locally would budge off MSRP on a Boss. The disparity between those two prices led me to give up on the Boss and order the GT. Before going to the dealer to order I went on cars.com and called every dealer within 100 miles with a Boss and asked for their best number. I eventually found two willing to go under MSRP. Once you get within $5k or so of the GT price it's worth it IMO.

But if you must get the GT/V6 combo get the vert DD in sterling grey with saddle interior. Ford didn't make that the 2013 launch combo for nothing. Best color combo IMO. Grats on whatever you end up with.

That was me too :grin: I actually own a 2012 Dodge Ram Sport Truck regular cab with the Hemi, 20 inch wheels, and 4X4. It does 0 to 60 in like 6 seconds which is amazing for a truck that heavy! But I'm trading it in. I realized a convertible is more to my liking as a second option than a truck, which while I love, I feel I don't need.

You know I thought about going around the internet cajoling out of state dealers to get me under MSRP, but I decided it just wasn't worth my time. I mean with the new rebates at $1500 instead of a $1000 and me qualifying for X-Plan before any of the rebates, the GT has just ended up as a better option. I think Ford pretty heavily influenced me by upping the rebates this week, even though it was only $500. But that combined with the fact that I learned I get NO REBATES with the Boss sealed the deal. I'd even go with the Boss at MSRP over the GT at Invoice IF I got the same rebates on the Boss. They won't even give me that. It helps that even before thinking about the Boss as a serious option, I had already ordered my perfect Race Red GT Premium Track Pack. Now with the leather, and the Shaker Pro and the huge price discrepancy, I'm not even going to bother pursuing the Boss. I'm sure I could cut some under MSRP deal if I was inclined to pull some teeth, I'm just not anymore.

PS I am going with Saddle on my Premium Convertible. Love that combo, but saddle will look good with black too, I think.

I know - all the rebates don't count, boss is not part of it, blah blah..... honestly >>> I had a SBY boss 302 with all the options I could have wanted, my dream (still my wallpaper at work and at home). The boss is THE BOSS, you pay for it, they don't discount it for a reason. I LOVE my GHIG GT and I have some nice options (I'll mod it to make it better over the years), but I'll always want the SBY boss that was RIGHT in front of me and I wanted so bad...... can't argue with the wife, but honestly, the BOSS - since it is limited to 12/13 is something if I could have swung, I would have purchased. I don't regret my GT, I have so SO much fun with it, but the boss is what I wanted since the 2013's came out..... glad you're happy with the GT, it'll rock!

Oh - and I should add - I'm a little depressed as the SBY boss 302 that I wanted so badly that someone else ordered and NEVER TOOK IT cuz it took so long to get to Oregon was sold last week, I don't regret my GT purchase, the car is AMAZING, my wife calls it my "girl friend", but the boss is what I really wanted....

I hear you, but 5K is a barely acceptable mark-up for a model with a slightly massaged 5.0 liter, but $10,000 is just not acceptable. Period. It's not worth $10,000 more than a GT Track Pack. I mean if you look at other special models out there, any premium $5000 or over is saved for a supercharged version, or one with a larger motor. A $10,000 premium better be a WHOLE LOT better. The fact that they don't give rebates, they don't do X-Plan, it's NOT a Shelby. It might feel better, but the sum of the cost of the parts do not justify the price. I mean heck I'd even accept MSRP but with rebates.

I mean do you realize that not only does the Boss not qualify for the current $1500 rebate, you can't even use the $750 brochure coupon either! I just read the fine print on that. I mean that's a $2250 difference in incentives alone when compared to a GT with the same 3.73 and Torsen. I'm sorry it is not worth that much more than a Track Pack for about 0.2 seconds faster.

If you're going with two stangs, why does the DD have to be a brand new one? As pointed out above, with two new cars you'll be getting pummeled with 2x on depreciation. So my advice is to go with a used (does Ford do "certified" used?) 2010 GT coupe. You'll beat much of the depreciation, have all-day-long reliability, and still have some warranty left. Plus the 2010 has a great sounding stock exhaust note IMHO, better than the 5.0. Most guys I know with the 4.6 GTs get much better gas mileage than the EPA ratings on their cars- at least as good as i see on my 5.0.

As for your #1 car, I have to second those above who recommended a Boss or GT500, and either of those will totally beat a regular GT in the long run as far as collectible value down the road.

Another option: Super Snake, or at least a Shelby GT350 conversion. Take a look at shelbyamerican.com or whatever their web site is nowadays.

Not everyone buys a car to look what the resell is going to be. :poke: Some people buy a car or cars to Drive and enjoy, Life is short and enjoy the moments. I don't blame the OP one bit. Having a fun car for a DD Like the new 2013 V6 is and then having a GT for the other times (shows, seat of the pants weekends, mods) WIN WIN in my book, Plus I am sure his other half will enjoy the DD as well. I have seen quite a few Husband and Wife/ Boyfriend/Girlfriend's share the passion with more than 1 Mustang. Why does a lot of people on here think the idea is silly. I have two new vehicles and its a great feeling to know they are both covered under warranty and no issues from what a previous owner could have done.

GT500 and a cheap car. You're about to spend 70k on 2 mustangs, why can't you spend 55k on a GT500 and 15 on another car? Or just keep 1 of whatever cars you have, sell the others (if you have others) and get the Shelby

how in the flying F did you get 2k plus under msrp???

The dealership I work for sold all of our '13 Boss 302's for $1K under MSRP - even our '13 Laguna Seca! $2K off for a "regular" Boss 302 doesn't sound impossible with enough searching.

Brian I might have to come up to WA and say hi to the family and pickup a car from you.

maybe next year since I already ordered a new focus ST.

If I had YOUR wallet I would buy the GT500, a pre owned V6 F-150 and a mid 2000 4 honda civic LOADED as my DD...

GT500 FTW

I know you have your mind made up, and I'm not trying to convince you, but I can assure you the Boss is worth more than the sum of its parts. I felt the same way you do until I owned one. Its worth the money.

I went on cars.com and searched every dealer within 100 miles. I then called every dealer that had them listed for sticker (didn't even bother with those that were listed over). As long as it wasn't SBY I didn't care about color, but preferred RR. I told them all I was buying a car as soon as I found the best deal.
Most told me they had some level of "market adjustment" on the car (usually $2-$5k over MSRP) despite having them listed for sticker. I finally found a dealer (Five Star Ford in Plano, Texas if anyone is in the market) that had a PW Boss. The sales manager asked me what number I needed to hear to buy the car. I threw out "$2k under sticker" expecting him to counter, but he said "come get your car I'll start cleaning it. "
On the way to buy that car a dealer (Randall Noe Ford in Terrell, TX, ask for Jack) called and said they would do $1k off MSRP. I told him I was on the way to pick up one for $2k under and that they were waiving all dealer add-one (tint, doc fees, etc.) They said they would match it. So I drive about an hour and got the RR car I wanted.
Idk if it's a product of being in an area where there are a plethora of dealers with Bosses in stock or not, but I know they can be had here for under sticker. I actually feel I could have gotten a better deal and I paid $43125 with Torsen/Recaros and cover.

This

I'd go with a Gt track pack daily driver and a couple of Bosses for track day toys!

You have THREE mustangs?

.....

Yes, indeed! Come visit the family (and I'll help you find a cool car!).

Well, SeattleStang has decided order a Black Mustang GT Convertible with automatic trans to replace his 05 Mustang GT. I ordered it for him this afternoon. I believe he is still going to buy the Race Red GT Coupe that he ordered elsewhere, so no Bosses or Shelbys for him. I trust he'll update us here soon.

You are correct sir. So the primary car stays the same. The race red 6 speed track pack gt premium i mentioned earlier. But i had a slight change of heart on the loaded premium v6 convertible. Instead i bought a base base 300a 2013 gt convertible with auto and no other options. With the great trade im getting on my 05 mustang and the cheaper price now on the 2013s i could swing a v8 into the convertible. Im quite pleased. My black base gt convertible becomes my project car. Ive already talked to my friend at katzkin who will have the leather seats heated ready when my car gets here. Next is the stereo. The great thing about the gt base is that they didnt strip out anything externally really. All of the performance is there. The leds the wheels from the outside you wouldnt know its a base gt convertible. But its my mod machine. So in the final analysis i will have one no compromise red 6 speed close to track coupe with the torsen and brembos etc and i will have one black automatic convertible for relaxed cruising modding and a semi dd. But yeah come to think of it ill end up driving the convertible like i stole it too hah hey its got 5.0 too

Congrats on the purchases.

wow that's 10 liters of fun! Good for you!

You've given me an idea about getting convertible, automatic V6 (perhaps a gently used one) as my second car.

My 2005 Prius is getting long in the tooth, and I'm sick of being looked at like I'm some sort of weird tree hugger wherever I drive it. The V6 gets mileage in the mid-20s to lower 30s, which isn't terrible, and I love the idea of having a vert. My 2011 GT usually stays in the garage most of the winter, but I could drive the V6 in any weather and not worry about it staying perfect. Also, with an auto trans, my wife would be able to drive too (she can't drive a manual and she'd kill me if my second car was a manual).

The other thought I had for a grocery getter/commuter vehicle is a Hyundai Sonata. Those are great looking cars. Anyone have one?

Now you're talking and thinking sensibly!!! Ford Focus (nothing fancy) and the GT/premium MT with all the options you want. The way you say you don't even drive a Manual trans, but are willing to learn I don't know if I would get the trac pack. You are never going to get on the track I would think from you bio. Get the Brembo package with the 19 inches and brembo brakes in the front. It looks sharp, but I have read on the forums also that some folks think the suspension is a little to stiff on this package. I went with the optional 19 inch wheels for the premium package offering. Now I want 10 inch wheels in the rear for a staggerd look. Never satisfied.
Like the man said though, I would-not get the BLACK if you don't want to constantly and I mean constantly worry about scratches, swirl marks and the car looking filthy a few hours after you just spent hours cleaning and polishing. HIGH maintenance color for sure. I just got the '13 GT/premium in BLACK and a beautiful as it looks (When Clean) am sorry I didn't choose a different color. I already have thin scratches and swirl marks and a nice deep scratch on the front fender (no idea) where I went to Ford and picked up touch up paint at only 3 months old. The scratch has been there for two months already. Figure it out. I should have got the Sterling grey or silver, my other choices. I gave the color long and agonizing thought before I went with the black (wrong move).
Good Luck with what ever you decide to do and I can't wait to see the photos.
OH BY THE WAY, I have the new optional Shaker PRO Audio and I absolutely LOVE, LOVE this stereo. The clarity and bass are awesome. Worth every dime. If you loved your Shaker 1000, this one is like studio.

Blasphemy.

Brembo suspension is far from stiff.

I don't consider the track package suspension stiff either. For the price difference between the Brembo brake package and track package...I chose the track package

That's what the aftermarket is for. :poke:

Agreed, just people keep commenting its a stiff ride when its not.

Damping is spot on, but actual spring rates are still kinda soft. My K springs should remedy that.

Springs alone will give it a somewhat underdamped feel, especially on the highway. You'll want to change shocks and struts eventually.

Brembo and track pack suspensions are the same. You just get the other goodies with the TP, along with the 5w-50 engine calibration.

For those of who struggle to buy one Mustang, one word. Seriously?

lol...

Perhaps it's stiff compared to what they're used to? Stiff is an adjective, not a grade.

I say get the car you really want and get a hoopty for your dd. Get a convertible hoopty if you want