They appear smaller to me on the 2010+ than than 2005-2009. I never did measure my 2007 GT's light dimensions but my 2010's look more proportioned to the headlights and overall smaller.

I love the way the V6 "Pony Package" lights looked.

 

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I disagree completely! Check out the blank-wads in YOUR government.

Granted, I think driving lights blinding oncoming traffic lies at the issue (and perhaps with good reason since so many Mustang owners believe they are fog lights - duh - ); but to try and blame private companies for fault (as they produce products, jobs, economic, and government revenue) when they all have to deal with the myriads of ridiculous and duplicitous - no... complicit - regulations (for the purpose of extracting fines) - is the kettle calling the pot black.

Welcome to the USA. Wait, I mean Canada. Or...

Wow.

 

Much better IMO

 

What changed though?
Are they not LED/HID lights or did Transport Canada change their law since most manufacturers are going this route with their lighting.
Audi comes to mind where the lighting strip of LEDs is used as a DRL, yet the fogs on the Mustang weren't allowed (maybe due to the ammount of light they emit)
Which is too bad they couldn't bring over the US lighting and utilize only the LED light strip as DRLs...

The issue was the ammount of forward facing lights and the fogs being considered as HID lights which couldn't be used as daytime running lights.

Prior years on the HID lighting package, the fogs were used as the DRLs as they were not HID/LED lights.
2013 hits, the lighting is all HID/LED, which you couldn't use for DRLs.
So they went with the fogs in the lower which were not HID or LED style lighting, which was compliant.

 

We all love our cars and wish to be treated the same with our choices. There certainly is room for debate,but not the ridicule that some our American posters like to use !

 

The issue is the tone of the OP; coming out as if Ford purposefully meant to deny him a fog-light grille, and he's now owed something because it's back on a later model year.

The reality is that minor spec differences like this happen ALL the time. What was done in 2013 was obviously a stop-gap measure, as the grille lights return in Canada for 2014. This is how mass production works. They're not going to halt 2013 production to re-design the lighting system because of a Canadian govn't regulation that crops up after the design has been finalized. Obviously, they figured things out in time to put them back in 2014 (or .ca has changed its law).

Every company that sells cars world-wide does this, it's not false advertising. That's why car ads always have fine print that says, "European/US/Asia model shown, equipment may vary by region..." or something equivalent.

The fact that they've changed it back for 2014 is irrelevant. It's a different model year. Should every 2010 GT owner get a free 5.0 because Ford put a massively better engine in the 2011 cars than what came in 2010? Sorry, but no. Anytime you buy a car (or a phone, or a computer, or anything), you just have to accept that the next model that comes along is going to be better/faster/have more features. It's just a fact of life.

 

A very reasonable response, and to be totally honest I never left my 05,10,13 grilles stock because it is part of my personalization process to make the car different for me. I really joined in on this just to support my compatriots. But have purchased new Fords ever since I got out of college in 1962 .It seemed natural since my father worked in Fords original Windsor ,Ont. complex . I remember quite often being disappointed by what the company made available for the U.S. market and did not pass on to customers on the Canadian side of the border. I have had some great vehicles and some really crappy ones,but kept my loyalty to the brand .The lack of the GT grille in 13 was a disappointment at the time and I got over it and did my thing. If some of my fellow countrymen are unhappy c'est la vie , but I get angry when some other posters play the wimpy card and ridicule others .Discussion and passing on information is what this forum is about . I was always taught that if you don't have anything good to say ,it is better to say nothing at all or at least be kind and constructive in your criticism .

 

The reason HIDs can't be used for DRL has nothing to do with any laws (Canadian or otherwise) - it's a physical problem. When using headlights as DRLs, both countries specify that they cannot be used at full intensity. That's no problem with halogen headlights - they use pulse width modulation to effectively reduce the output by about half. Unfortunately, you can't do the same with HIDs because they don't work properly at lower voltage and PWM causes problems with the ballasts. So they use auxiliary lights like fog lights for the DRLs.

I don't know why they couldn't (or didn't) use the LED fog lights on the '13 for DRL. It wasn't a legal issue about LEDs per se because other makes and models already had LED DRLs. I suspect it had something to do with mounting position, aiming, or brightness rather than the lighting technology. Or it may have been that the existing wiring/programming was designed for halogen bulbs used in the '12 with PWM which also doesn't work with LEDs (they flicker badly). So they released them with the V6 setup and then modified the wiring /programming for the '14.

 

Obvious you missed reading my entire post then.

Ford advertised the 2013 here like it was in the US, and they had the same car here at the international Canadian CAR show. Fogs in the GRILLE for 13s, not the v6 fog less grille.

When and where is it a corporations responsibility to deliver the product they advertised ? This is the purpose of the debate.

It's called false advertising , and the Canadian government is also to blame to change the rules just enough to force a corporation to not be compliant, and change there product.

Ford got full pop for its car, the government got its full pop of taxes for the car, yet the purchaser got something different, and less than expected, yet still spending the exact amount for not the exact looking product.

How do you and others not see the unfairness to the consumer ?

 

For the record, I just seized an opportunity to make a Canadian joke. It was in honor of my bud Dan (montreal ponies)

 

Sorry, no... it's not false advertising. As has been pointed out, the brochures, websites and other promotional materials always have text to the effect "specifications subject to change without notice" to cover exactly this type of situation. And you received a product that was substantially the same as advertised, it had all the same features including fog lights - they just weren't in the same location - so why would the pricing be affected? This is not something that is less than expected - it's just different than expected.

Besides, instead of thinking of them as V6 fog lights, you can think of them as GT/CS fog lights... you got an upgrade.

 

+1 there is always the fine print that will $crew you.

The DRL issue was the LED's their light output was not enough so a fix had to be found. However I agree, why not use the grill lights as DRL's? My 2011 with HID's headlights used the grill lights for DRL's.

 

True, but your grill lights are halogen so they don't have a problem with Pulse Width Modulation to reduce average voltage. The '13 has LED fog lights in the grille so they could not be used for DRL without modifying the configuration to eliminate the PWM (LEDs won't work properly with PWM). Just speculation on my part but it seems like a reasonable explanation of why Ford chose to use only the halogen lower facia fog lights in Canada for the '13 model.

 

What's done is done ! I'm bored, there are more interesting topics. Can this be put to bed ?????????

 

Sorry, my mistake. I must have missed the memo about how everything is here solely for your entertainment. I'll try to do a better job of not boring you in the future.

 

this topic is silly.. no company wants to screw the people that buy what they make... grow up and understand its the people in the canadian DOT offices that made a small change.. dont like it move out of canada..

also.. no one forced you to pickup the car at the dealer when it came in......

 

Arguable... G force "performance" chip is nothing but a company screwing its buyers

 

how come no one informed me of whinefest 13. with a subculture oh my butt got hurt. I had to read it here. Next time please invite me and supply ample popcorn.

 

I can't believe you are still belly aching over this. Move on.

Since when is Advertising to be believed for anything.

And what's this about not being able to get a deposit back once you order a car??? Please post a link to this "Law".