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Old 6/7/07, 06:27 AM
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No 5.8L boss for Mustang

http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums...dpost&p=184290

The 5.8 Boss has been cancelled for the Mustang. The 6.2 is truck only, block has been redesigned slightly. The 7.0 development continues, application undetermined.

The new 5.0 Jag DI engine is too costly for the Mustang.
BlueII has been an Ford insider on BON, providing info on the new Boss/Hurricane engine..

So I wonder what Ford is doing, are we just going to get a GDITT 3.5L V6 and a slightly bumped up 4.6 v3 V8 for the future Mustang?
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That's dissappointing
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I hope its #1 not true, or #2 they did it for good reason and they still have some firepower to bring to the table.....

It sucks if those new engines won't be in the stang.... but then throw the 4v 4.6 in the GT :P
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That would be an extremely bad move for Ford if in fact thats true. The hurricane engine program has been a complete mess. If they would have just worked on it continuously from start it would have been done a couple years ago.
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It will still have a larger v8 than it does currently...
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It will still have a larger v8 than it does currently...
how so? If we aren't getting the 5.8 hurricane or the Jag 5.0... what else is there that you have heard they will use?
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how so? If we aren't getting the 5.8 hurricane or the Jag 5.0... what else is there that you have heard they will use?
not to mention I thought the 5.4L will be going away due to the Boss?

Maybe we'll see a Mod stroked out to 5.0L?
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I sure hope its not true! If true, I guess Uncle Sam has really made an impression.
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BlueII made a posting that a Mod 5.0L is being looked at, but no further info...

The only thing that scares me is that with the minor changes to the 6.2, is will it be ready next Fall for the 09 F-150?
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heck if the 6.2 is in the f-150... then the engine will be availbe to swap into the mustang.. thats a good thing.

Should be good for 450+hp N/A with some mods.
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Originally Posted by Knight
how so? If we aren't getting the 5.8 hurricane or the Jag 5.0... what else is there that you have heard they will use?
I believe that the information was taken out of context; it might not be a 5.8, but that doesn't mean it won't get a larger engine than the current one. I have heard possibly a 5.6...
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I guess when I really think about it, the GT should probably stick with a small V8. It'll make it more affordable for the masses, and since it doesn't seem like the Camaro or the Challenger will have small V8's available, than the Mustang having one could give it a lead over the competition. Leave the big V8's for the SE's and serious performance enthusiasts. Ford doesn't really have to worry about performance as much as they do actually selling larger volumes of the car, which I would think a toned down and more affordable GT compared to the competition could accomplish. Of course, there's also the fuel economy concerns now, and perhaps in hindsight relying more on smaller V8's could soften any unforeseen blows in the future. My best guess is we'll get a 5.0 or a 5.4 similar to what is being used in Australia; I personally hope that it isn't another 4.6, but I guess if it has the power to back it up than I could easily make due.

I've heard GM is working on a new small block V8, so I would assume Ford is figuring something out as well and perhaps that is what we will get in the GT instead. I would just prefer atleast a 5.0 with atleast 320 hp. Just enough to keep it above the more powerful V6's that are emerging into the market.

Just my thoughts
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Ford really needs the displacment boost in order to keep up with rising hp levels and be able to retain those hp levels with 87 oct. I would hate for the GT to have to require anything more from factory.
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Fourcam330 on SVTPerformance.com still says that there will be a 5.8 in the MY '11 GT.
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yes he does...

Comeon...5.8
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The thing that ****es me off is that Ford always uses the cost excuse when they do these things, If they can't figure out how to build a V8 that isn't super expensive then they are in trouble, all that extra mass of the mods has to cost them just in raw materials.

I would gladly pay 1500-2000 more for the 5.8, even if it was just an option..
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I've about had it with all the excuses. GM & Chrysler find a way to do things.
What's even more puzzling is that Ford UK and Ford Australia have engines and car designs that people over here are craving for.
People want the U.K. Focus. People want the equivalent of the Australian V8's in their Mustangs etc, etc.

Ford has their backs against the wall. They should be doing everything possible to survive. That means bringing everything to the table.
They have wonderful concepts that they never produce. Its sad!

This company has so much "potential" and some of the decisions that they make are just plain dumb.
I just hope I am wrong this time, and Ford comes out with a wonderful new V8 or makes some key upgrades to the 4.6L and/or 5.4L.
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A key upgrade to the 4.6 would be the addition of two more cylinders, making it a 5.8, would be good for at least another 50hp (although simple math points to more like 78), I wonder if they could copy the CNC 3v heads port improvements over to a regular production casting? That and a switch to a premium fuel tune would probably net an easy 400hp V10 engine. This upgrade would be so frick'n ridiculously easy, the heads are there, the cams are there, the rods and pistons are there. Just need to add two cylinders and another throw on the crank. Combine this with the six-speed trans and something like a 3.0? rear end and watch fuel effciency increase as well.
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Sooo....we would have a GTO? Big engine, premium gas, stupid rear end gears, 6spd...and after all that, not really much faster than a stock GT, but at an $8K premium.
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you have a point...but come on, you know that with all of this Global warming BS that suddenly is getting all of this attention, we are going to have to quit asking for so much sooner or later.

But hey...the Gas Guzzler tax will be waiting for all of you guys when we get there. And probably twice as costly then too. Especially if a democrat wins the election.


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