2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}
View Poll Results: 3.5 EcoBoost in the Mustang?
Yes - As an option in the GT
13
26.53%
Yes - replace the V8 with the 3.5TT
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2.04%
Yes - as the base V6
7
14.29%
Yes - as a special edition v6
26
53.06%
No - hard to find a home between the base and GT v8
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4.08%
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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DETROIT - Scratch the surface of the North American International Auto Show, and there was a lot going on under all those press conferences.

To wit: there's a contingent at Ford pushing to install the Lincoln MKS' EcoBoost V-6 under the Mustang's hood. The argument is that the lighter, 3.7-liter twin-turbo, gas direct-injection V-6 will produce more horsepower than the base V-8 and weigh less. While better handling, quicker acceleration and lower fuel consumption are upsides for the turbo engine compared to either the 4.6-liter or upcoming 5.0-liter V-8, Ford is concerned the market won't accept the engine. Remember the SVO Mustang?
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 04:11 AM
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I think the market would accept the TwinTurbo engines. However, despite my login name (comes from my old 300zx) would I choose this over a V8? NO WAY!

The turbo engines should supplement the V8s, not replace them.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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why not add a TT 5.0? at 4.5 PSI you'd easily make 400 hp.
i wouldnt mind having a 3.6TT Gt and a 4.6 GT. now that would be cool to have different motor options
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 06:57 AM
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Simple solution: Introduce the EcoBoost V6s at 300 HP for the "base" Mustang - and then up the power of the V8 GTs to 400.

Boom. Done.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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What does ecoboost mean? twin turbo or sometihng?
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
Simple solution: Introduce the EcoBoost V6s at 300 HP for the "base" Mustang - and then up the power of the V8 GTs to 400.

Boom. Done.

Gets my vote
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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As long as it performes I could care less about it being a 6 or an 8. I recently bought a new daily driver (Subaru Legacy GT) and I gotta tell ya Turbos kick. I got a little four banger that puts outs out 250 HP and will run neck and neck with 4th gen Mustangs..... Gotta love technology
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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This is what I would like to see!!

Sport Coupe: Based on the Australian Ford Falcon #3300 to#3600

Mustang ST---3.5L D35 V6 275hp/265ftlb, 5sp Manual/5 sp Auto


Mustang GT--- 4.6L D46 V8 375hp/360ftlb 5 sp Manual/5sp Auto


Mustang Boss— 5.0L boss V8-400hp/435ftlb 6 sp. Manual/6 sp.
Manumatic

Mustang Twin Force—3.5L D35 V6 TT-350hp/360ftlb 6 sp. Manual or 6 sp Manumatic All aluminum IRS/Brembo 4 Piston brakes/Recaro's/(3400#)

SVT Shelby GT 500 Mustang------ 6.2L V8-550hp/650ftlbs 6 sp Manual or 6 sp Manumatic HD IRS/Recaro's/Brembo's/HUD/Ultralight 18"wheels.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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but what about all of those "daddies little girls" that want a mustang? do the really need 275 hp?
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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i'm all for having that engine in the mustang...
but...
V8 for the GT

It is one of my main reasons for going with it (as well as countless others)
The Mustang is about passion and emotion.
I bought the GT, so that when I crank it up and rev the gas, I want to scare women/children. You can not replace the sound of a nice V8....so don't

Make it an option but don't flat out replace

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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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I think option is the best way to go. V8 fans want the V8 to be there, and V6TT buyers don't want their car to be considered any "less" than the V8 especially if the TT's performance matches that of the V8. So just make it an option between the two for the same "GT" Moniker.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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How about a smaller displacement TT V8?...maybe like a 3.9L or something....Play with people's brains...its still a V8.....
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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Just give us the option to have the Mustang with whatever powerplant we chose!!! From the knuckle-draggin brute V8's to tree-huggin hybrids (yea, I'd buy one!!) so that it would appeal to more people!! There should be at least one V8, but having a choice of V8's would be even better!!
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by codeman94
How about a smaller displacement TT V8?...maybe like a 3.9L or something....Play with people's brains...its still a V8.....
Lot of R&D money to invest in that, and people would still probably whine that it would be a "toy" V8.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Topnotch
Ford is concerned the market won't accept the engine. Remember the SVO Mustang?
Believe me I will NOT be the first to buy an EcoBoost ( or Twin Force ). I still have a lot of bad memories from the last tubo era (based on friends of mine who were stupid enough to buy 1980s vintage turbos). I'll let somebody else do the field testing on the EcoBoost while Ford sorts out the problems, and I assure you there WILL be problems.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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ok...so i want to change my vote...I say put the Ecoboost motor in the GT....as a special edition GT.....Call it the GT-G ..."G" for Green..(or somewthing to that effect)..still lots of power, but an engine option for the lead foot tree huggers! Keep the V8 the standard...but offer the TT at little or no cost....this is called taking baby steps.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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The GT should be V8 powered period. However, Ford could offer an SE with the EcoBoost V6 - just don't call it the Boss, that SE has to be V8 powered and preferably 5.0L in displacement. Maybe the GS or ST as someone else suggested.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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IMO, wouldn't mind a turbo V6, but the Mustang should always have a V8 on the option list.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by codeman94
ok...so i want to change my vote...I say put the Ecoboost motor in the GT....as a special edition GT.....Call it the GT-G ..."G" for Green..(or somewthing to that effect)..still lots of power, but an engine option for the lead foot tree huggers! Keep the V8 the standard...but offer the TT at little or no cost....this is called taking baby steps.
Make it available in only Tree Bark Brown or Tree Hugger Green!
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by V10
Believe me I will NOT be the first to buy an EcoBoost ( or Twin Force ). I still have a lot of bad memories from the last tubo era (based on friends of mine who were stupid enough to buy 1980s vintage turbos). I'll let somebody else do the field testing on the EcoBoost while Ford sorts out the problems, and I assure you there WILL be problems.
Something that would circulate the oil after shut down would cure alot of that, along with plumbing the cooling system into the turbos as well. Otherwise, be the first guy to get oil-less bearings in there and retire a rich man.
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