I'm going to be doing a oil catch can comparison test.
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No you didn't. You just gave a bunch of general stuff. Why don't you give some specific info or link us to where you brought this up before. Not all of us follow you around the web reading what you write.
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I see that you got a RX can with the duel outlet ports. It looks like you have both of the outlet ports in use. Do you have the middle port hooked up? I can't tell from the pictures. My RX can only has the intake port and the outlet port.
As far as the Tuner Boost bashing, He said that they would eventually appear and it looks like it has happened. All I can say is that all of my dealings with him so far have been professional. I don't have any personal knowledge of all of the negative stuff that is being said in the link provided above.
Wayne
As far as the Tuner Boost bashing, He said that they would eventually appear and it looks like it has happened. All I can say is that all of my dealings with him so far have been professional. I don't have any personal knowledge of all of the negative stuff that is being said in the link provided above.
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Read this about RX Tracy Lewis - https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...lewis&safe=off It's out of control all the lies and BS he peddles just to indirectly get sales from uneducated unsuspecting enthusiasts and businesses. 
typesredline you too must know about Tracy from RX and the snake oil and all the people he's pissed off or screwed.
typesredline you too must know about Tracy from RX and the snake oil and all the people he's pissed off or screwed.I had never heard of RX before this but as I said before. And maybe it's because I've been in sales and the aftermarket automotive world for more than 15 years. But immediately this guy reeked of scam.
You come across as non threatening and helpful with a ton of info. People will start buying your stuff even though you haven't pitched a thing.
I asked the question and never got the answer. How do you know what % it's capturing?????? If I have a glass, I can tell you when it's 80% full of water. But since you can not gauge how much total oil passes through, it is IMPOSSIBLE to determine % is being captured.
Plus the tests that he recommends have been proven to be unreliable. But you will get distracted by all of the "test this yourself" "don't take my word for it". Those are instant trust builders and sales 101.
The sad part is that we have no idea how many other posts from other users are actually him. "RX is popular with the Chevy comm" it sure doesn't look that way.
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This quote right here sums it up for me. It's a response from Tuner Boost about a post explaining how the s/c kit he bought from RX was made up of eBay parts and had terrible overall quality.
"21 year old troll with 2 posts.....every link he posted is all backed by our competitors that cant seem to succeed w/out slamming others. If they can build good FI then that should speak for itself."
Really???!!? So Vortex is sponsoring this guys post to slam your product bc they can't get sales any other way!?! Tuner Boost is delusional.
Z, there is nothing to be confused about. Some guy moves from forum to forum peddling his products under the guise of being helpful and having a ton of knowledge. But all it takes is a look into where he comes from. You'll find forum bans, screwed customers, crap products, stolen money, etc.
Bottom line, go with a real catch can that's proven and not pushed by the maker on a forum. Bc despite what is claimed. The RX can has been documented to be full of chicken wire and do virtually nothing to stop the oil.
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That's all fine and dandy, but Charlie's post is still applicable to the other brands that we've been using - how are these companies measuring the flow rate? That itself, can determine how efficient the can is (or not) and none of the companies mentioned (including my Bob's) advertise any hard numbers...that would be very helpful in determining the "best can."
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I see that you got a RX can with the duel outlet ports. It looks like you have both of the outlet ports in use. Do you have the middle port hooked up? I can't tell from the pictures. My RX can only has the intake port and the outlet port. As far as the Tuner Boost bashing, He said that they would eventually appear and it looks like it has happened. All I can say is that all of my dealings with him so far have been professional. I don't have any personal knowledge of all of the negative stuff that is being said in the link provided above. I'm just trying to determine who makes a good can that lets the least amount of oil and junk into the intake manifold. As far as cdynaco's post, I invite you to educate us with your superior knowledge instead of sounding like an *******. Wayne
Wayne, acting professional is part of the scam. And warning you of the bashing was purely to desensitize it and further gain your trust.
This is some guy you met on the f150 boards as he was making his rounds to ford bc he no longer had anymore sales with Chevy since everyone knows it's a scam. Now he's trying to sell to ford by giving free units to test......smh. We have all been around here for a long time and have nothing to sell you. Who do you want to trust with your $40k car?
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Well said Typesredline.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...mer+complaints
---------- Here's a testament to his build quality and home made trash ----------------
Really Rx clean side separator is a stock oil cap turned on a lathe with an old school valve cover breather pre-fuel injected motors... This guy is no Dick Moroso - Yikes!
Just got done with the installation of a Monster Catch Can on my 13 ecoboost and was about to button things up when the clean side separator, separated. Has anyone seen this before or know how to fix it temporarily? I have a call into RX but assuming its the weekend, they didn't answer. I'd put the stock clean side pcv hose back on but had cut it to use the factory connectors. Any harm in capping the line and using the stock oil fill cap?
Here are some pictures. It appears the two half's are just glued together? Shouldn't this design need to be a little more robust if it has to be removed for oil changes?
http://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/14...separator.html
Then he proceeds to tell the customer you have to buy permatex or the right stuff !
LOL
>>>>> So the customer actually does it and it does not work and falls apart again !
Is the industry really getting this bad ???
>>>> Then he blames the customer for not letting it set up properly.
How bout you just build a quality part ????
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...mer+complaints
---------- Here's a testament to his build quality and home made trash ----------------
Really Rx clean side separator is a stock oil cap turned on a lathe with an old school valve cover breather pre-fuel injected motors... This guy is no Dick Moroso - Yikes!
Just got done with the installation of a Monster Catch Can on my 13 ecoboost and was about to button things up when the clean side separator, separated. Has anyone seen this before or know how to fix it temporarily? I have a call into RX but assuming its the weekend, they didn't answer. I'd put the stock clean side pcv hose back on but had cut it to use the factory connectors. Any harm in capping the line and using the stock oil fill cap?
Here are some pictures. It appears the two half's are just glued together? Shouldn't this design need to be a little more robust if it has to be removed for oil changes?
http://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/14...separator.html
Then he proceeds to tell the customer you have to buy permatex or the right stuff !
LOL
>>>>> So the customer actually does it and it does not work and falls apart again !
Is the industry really getting this bad ???
>>>> Then he blames the customer for not letting it set up properly.
How bout you just build a quality part ????
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At least all the competitors are not scammers !
Lololol. So he told you that the bashing would begin at some point? Lol wow. That's even WORSE. This guy knows that his reputation (which was created by ACTUAL customers that were screwed and/or used his products and saw first hand the crappy designs etc. Proven lies, like him saying that his bov is made by the same co that makes TiAL's. Lol that's a blatant LIE!) is right behind him.
Wayne, acting professional is part of the scam. And warning you of the bashing was purely to desensitize it and further gain your trust.
This is some guy you met on the f150 boards as he was making his rounds to ford bc he no longer had anymore sales with Chevy since everyone knows it's a scam. Now he's trying to sell to ford by giving free units to test......smh. We have all been around here for a long time and have nothing to sell you. Who do you want to trust with your $40k car?
Wayne, acting professional is part of the scam. And warning you of the bashing was purely to desensitize it and further gain your trust.
This is some guy you met on the f150 boards as he was making his rounds to ford bc he no longer had anymore sales with Chevy since everyone knows it's a scam. Now he's trying to sell to ford by giving free units to test......smh. We have all been around here for a long time and have nothing to sell you. Who do you want to trust with your $40k car?
You guys should search for rx and tracy lewis on other mustang and different vehicle brand forums to see if then is doing the same song and dance there.
I am sure you will uncover more of the man behind the curtain like the Great Oz ! Except the Great Oz was exactly that and Tracy's reputation speaks for itself.
Just my 2 cents and why I don't buy from the side show.
http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...an-sale-2.html
http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...ease-read.html
Interesting sales pitch I am seeing from him, LOL J/K all the same BS.
I read the tests as well and found that the location was what was hurting the UPR catch can and the guys at UPR have made many changes. Seems ounting the catch can in a cool location along with a diffuser and media made them very close overall.
Just my 2 cents.
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So I feel a little dumb asking, but how is the dual outlet can supposed to be connected? Specifically, where is the 2nd outlet supposed to be connected up to? I got everything mounted last night, but I'm not finding much info for the dual check valve can routing for N/A applications...
I'm not sure where the second line goes. I would find a way to plug It off and just use the inlet line and one outlet line.
As far as all of the rest of the stuff being posted, I read the stuff in that link like some of you have and some of it is not very positive. With that being said, I can only go by my personal dealings with him. I don't know the history or background of all of the negative stuff being said so who knows what is true. Everything you read on the internet has to be true right? LOL.
As far as the RX can being junk and the testing procedure that I'm doing not being valid, who knows? I don't and I'm not an expert in catch cans and from reading many threads and posts on various forums about catch cans, I'm going to guess that 99% of the people posting don't have a clue either.
When I was researching which can to buy, everyone was telling me to buy UPR or JLT. I bought UPR. After running this can for awhile, I discovered I had a lot of oil in the outlet line going to the intake and the connector was just as wet with oil as it was before I installed the catch can.
I was not happy about that so I did more research and found out about Bob's can. While it did better than the UPR can as far as how much oil was at the intake, it still was letting oil through. Everyone was singing high praises about JLT's cans because they impressed everyone by offering Ford type connectors and lines and making so easy to install but then people were complaining that they hardly every caught any oil and that they discovered a lot of oil was still getting through.
The bottom line is none of these other catch can manufacturers are putting out any hard data out on the effectiveness of their cans. They all just have some fancy wording on their websites telling you how great it is. The majority of us are not going to pull our intake manifolds to see how much oil is still getting through.
From what I've read on here and many other sites, is that once someone puts a catch can on their vehicle, all they focus on is how much oil it catches or doesn't, and never checks the line at the intake to see how dry it is.
It's too bad this thread has turned into all of this bashing.
Wayne
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---------------------Just a thought ? ? ?--------------------
You guys should search for rx and tracy lewis on other mustang and different vehicle brand forums to see if then is doing the same song and dance there.
I am sure you will uncover more of the man behind the curtain like the Great Oz ! Except the Great Oz was exactly that and Tracy's reputation speaks for itself.
Just my 2 cents and why I don't buy from the side show.
http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...an-sale-2.html
http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...ease-read.html
Interesting sales pitch I am seeing from him, LOL J/K all the same BS.
I read the tests as well and found that the location was what was hurting the UPR catch can and the guys at UPR have made many changes. Seems ounting the catch can in a cool location along with a diffuser and media made them very close overall.
Just my 2 cents.
You guys should search for rx and tracy lewis on other mustang and different vehicle brand forums to see if then is doing the same song and dance there.
I am sure you will uncover more of the man behind the curtain like the Great Oz ! Except the Great Oz was exactly that and Tracy's reputation speaks for itself.
Just my 2 cents and why I don't buy from the side show.
http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...an-sale-2.html
http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...ease-read.html
Interesting sales pitch I am seeing from him, LOL J/K all the same BS.
I read the tests as well and found that the location was what was hurting the UPR catch can and the guys at UPR have made many changes. Seems ounting the catch can in a cool location along with a diffuser and media made them very close overall.
Just my 2 cents.
Time will tell if UPR's new diffuser and media will work. I just took a 1,200 trip in my Mustang with my UPR can installed that had the new diffuser(not the one he just came out with) in it and it did no better than the flat diffuser they used before. My outlet line was still full of oil.
I just received the newest diffuser that has four holes drilled in the side of it as well as some finer type filtering material placed at the bottom of the diffuser with the SS mesh on top. Go to the F150 link I posted in my original thread to see photos of the newest diffuser compared to the one before it.
We shall see how good it does because I have it installed on my fiancée's 07GT which we are taking on vacation tomorrow.
I do applaud UPR for stepping up and making changes to their product to make it better.
Wayne
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I see that you got a RX can with the duel outlet ports. It looks like you have both of the outlet ports in use. Do you have the middle port hooked up? I can't tell from the pictures. My RX can only has the intake port and the outlet port.
As far as the Tuner Boost bashing, He said that they would eventually appear and it looks like it has happened. All I can say is that all of my dealings with him so far have been professional. I don't have any personal knowledge of all of the negative stuff that is being said in the link provided above.
I'm just trying to determine who makes a good can that lets the least amount of oil and junk into the intake manifold.
As far as cdynaco's post, I invite you to educate us with your superior knowledge instead of sounding like an *******.
Wayne
As far as the Tuner Boost bashing, He said that they would eventually appear and it looks like it has happened. All I can say is that all of my dealings with him so far have been professional. I don't have any personal knowledge of all of the negative stuff that is being said in the link provided above.
I'm just trying to determine who makes a good can that lets the least amount of oil and junk into the intake manifold.
As far as cdynaco's post, I invite you to educate us with your superior knowledge instead of sounding like an *******.
Wayne
The tests are not skewed, they are 100% independent.
Waynes results will tell the story.
Doc, get that thing off now! You do too much track racing to have a shody piece installed. The massively long tubes alone and inefficiency of the install location is laughable.
This quote right here sums it up for me. It's a response from Tuner Boost about a post explaining how the s/c kit he bought from RX was made up of eBay parts and had terrible overall quality.
"21 year old troll with 2 posts.....every link he posted is all backed by our competitors that cant seem to succeed w/out slamming others. If they can build good FI then that should speak for itself."
Really???!!? So Vortex is sponsoring this guys post to slam your product bc they can't get sales any other way!?! Tuner Boost is delusional.
Z, there is nothing to be confused about. Some guy moves from forum to forum peddling his products under the guise of being helpful and having a ton of knowledge. But all it takes is a look into where he comes from. You'll find forum bans, screwed customers, crap products, stolen money, etc.
Bottom line, go with a real catch can that's proven and not pushed by the maker on a forum. Bc despite what is claimed. The RX can has been documented to be full of chicken wire and do virtually nothing to stop the oil.
This quote right here sums it up for me. It's a response from Tuner Boost about a post explaining how the s/c kit he bought from RX was made up of eBay parts and had terrible overall quality.
"21 year old troll with 2 posts.....every link he posted is all backed by our competitors that cant seem to succeed w/out slamming others. If they can build good FI then that should speak for itself."
Really???!!? So Vortex is sponsoring this guys post to slam your product bc they can't get sales any other way!?! Tuner Boost is delusional.
Z, there is nothing to be confused about. Some guy moves from forum to forum peddling his products under the guise of being helpful and having a ton of knowledge. But all it takes is a look into where he comes from. You'll find forum bans, screwed customers, crap products, stolen money, etc.
Bottom line, go with a real catch can that's proven and not pushed by the maker on a forum. Bc despite what is claimed. The RX can has been documented to be full of chicken wire and do virtually nothing to stop the oil.
Time will tell if UPR's new diffuser and media will work. I just took a 1,200 trip in my Mustang with my UPR can installed that had the new diffuser(not the one he just came out with) in it and it did no better than the flat diffuser they used before. My outlet line was still full of oil.
I just received the newest diffuser that has four holes drilled in the side of it as well as some finer type filtering material placed at the bottom of the diffuser with the SS mesh on top. Go to the F150 link I posted in my original thread to see photos of the newest diffuser compared to the one before it.
We shall see how good it does because I have it installed on my fiancée's 07GT which we are taking on vacation tomorrow.
I do applaud UPR for stepping up and making changes to their product to make it better.
Wayne
I just received the newest diffuser that has four holes drilled in the side of it as well as some finer type filtering material placed at the bottom of the diffuser with the SS mesh on top. Go to the F150 link I posted in my original thread to see photos of the newest diffuser compared to the one before it.
We shall see how good it does because I have it installed on my fiancée's 07GT which we are taking on vacation tomorrow.
I do applaud UPR for stepping up and making changes to their product to make it better.
Wayne
Here is what Joe form UPR sent me months back in a PM, and as you can see in his pictures it appears they copied the internal design of the RX in each function and design. Corporate sleazy greed using the little guy's hard work and ingenuity:
I am not happy to say the least about your tactics and forcing product on people.------------- You call our can a pull through, so how can you get caught with your double talk about our cans will fill up and hurt the engine. Pretty interesting since we have an ecoboost that we let the cans overfill and all it did was pull the little bit of oil at the top off the very same as no catch can at all. Oh wait, it must work so good that it magically sucks the oil pan clean.
If you continue to use and show my products as being faulty or not as good as yours I will have your can manufactured in billet to be a quality item ! Them proceed to sell all your dealers with my endless source of supplies.
Tells the story!
Go back to the beginning of this thread and read all the technical data and descriptions. Not a single other company goes into so much detail on any of this, and also see when the competitors cannot fairly compete with product effectiveness they resort to this low-life type unscrupulous tactics just like some high school girls on face book.
There is no way to skew results in these tests....do them yourselves and see.
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Starting a few years back a few unscrupulous competitors joined to bash and post all this false crap. The picture of the separated cleanside is real...you can break any part if you reef on it hard enough, but even so we still replace any defect same as anyone else. Those without the ability to produce the best on their own merits always take the internet bashing route. Note this person just signed on to only bash. The tests are not skewed, they are 100% independent. Waynes results will tell the story. As all this BS is absolutely false. I urge anyone to cut apart a RX can and see first hand the internals. The pictures show each component. This person has given himself away as a friend of an ex-employee that embezzled $142,000 from us and we prosecuted them and since has held a grudge. Look at his claims.....we welcome anyone to visit our facility in person and see every step. Ont he dual valve, the second outer fitting/line w/checkvalve flowing away from the can attaches to a barb you insert into the coupler that attaches the TB to the air bridge, This provides evacuation suction when at WOT when no intake manifold vacuum is present so the crankcase continues to evacuate Here is what Joe form UPR sent me months back in a PM, and as you can see in his pictures it appears they copied the internal design of the RX in each function and design. Corporate sleazy greed using the little guy's hard work and ingenuity: I am not happy to say the least about your tactics and forcing product on people.------------- You call our can a pull through, so how can you get caught with your double talk about our cans will fill up and hurt the engine. Pretty interesting since we have an ecoboost that we let the cans overfill and all it did was pull the little bit of oil at the top off the very same as no catch can at all. Oh wait, it must work so good that it magically sucks the oil pan clean. If you continue to use and show my products as being faulty or not as good as yours I will have your can manufactured in billet to be a quality item ! Them proceed to sell all your dealers with my endless source of supplies. Tells the story! Go back to the beginning of this thread and read all the technical data and descriptions. Not a single other company goes into so much detail on any of this, and also see when the competitors cannot fairly compete with product effectiveness they resort to this low-life type unscrupulous tactics just like some high school girls on face book. There is no way to skew results in these tests....do them yourselves and see.
It's real easy to just argue that anyone saying bad stuff is an ex employees friend or a competitor huh. How about you actually defend the claims made against you instead of changing the focus with excuses. Tell me why you claim to use tial bov's. Tell me why your parts break. Tell me why you steal part designs. Tell me why you ship parts that are unfinished. And PLEASE tell me how you know what % of total your can is catching. I'm pretty sure that I could yank the crap out of a bobs can and it's not going to break. I'm also pretty sure that their solution wouldn't be to have the customer come out of pocket to buy something to fix it. And wait, you replace broken stuff no problem? Just like you took back a "perfectly good sc", failed to refund it as promised. Then tried to claim that it was damaged, just to resell it and try to offer a hush fee to the customer?
Yes, the other tuner guy joined to bring your scams to light. However you join simply to sell your product. Not sure what's worse.
And here's a free tip, you should probably work on your accounting practices if you allowed an employee of a "small guy" business to sneak away $142,000!!! Holy crap man! Are you that out of touch? That's a ton of money for a small bus to lose without noticing. Unless that's also a lie.
But oh well. You will I'm sure respond to this with more paranoid excuses and unprofessional language. And unfortunately you will fool some of the more feeble minded. I'm guessing that your next attempt will be to say that I joined this forum 2 yrs ago to build trust in the comm just in order to bash you today bc my best friend was the guy who stole your money. Smh. Wow.
For the record, I don't associate with low life's that would work for your company or people that steal. And implying that I would is insulting.
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Tuner lets be real you don't have a patented item no can you even do a good job at supplying it. Now your business acumen is unscrupulous and underhanded at best. I have seen UPR rise above these nonsense and go over and above for their customers.
It only benefits the public by having more options and not some snake oil salesman with a monopoly on anything or a hidden agenda that people overlook with all your ridiculous pictures and posting about ( See for yourself and we will beat anyone ).
I hope UPR and other educate you on not being able to meet demand is the cardinal sin that forces people to turn to other sources to have products built.
No wait !
I forgot it's unethical and you are the only one allowed to manufacture a design that's not patented. Besides you sell your cans for as much as $350 and that's crazy for a single catch can. Especially a giant coffee can with some simple internals that are not machined at all.
Just like the clean side separator that you sell. It's just a valve cover breather that you can buy from summit for $25 and add some foam or different baffling and take a $8 oil cap and turn it on a lathe and sell it for $99.
We should be the ones crying for being tricked into buying this trash we could do ourselves !
You can insult and blame or point fingers at anyone you want, but the truth is if you were such a profit and experienced manufacturer you would display much better ethics and integrity!
TBL
It only benefits the public by having more options and not some snake oil salesman with a monopoly on anything or a hidden agenda that people overlook with all your ridiculous pictures and posting about ( See for yourself and we will beat anyone ).
I hope UPR and other educate you on not being able to meet demand is the cardinal sin that forces people to turn to other sources to have products built.
No wait !
I forgot it's unethical and you are the only one allowed to manufacture a design that's not patented. Besides you sell your cans for as much as $350 and that's crazy for a single catch can. Especially a giant coffee can with some simple internals that are not machined at all.
Just like the clean side separator that you sell. It's just a valve cover breather that you can buy from summit for $25 and add some foam or different baffling and take a $8 oil cap and turn it on a lathe and sell it for $99.
We should be the ones crying for being tricked into buying this trash we could do ourselves !
You can insult and blame or point fingers at anyone you want, but the truth is if you were such a profit and experienced manufacturer you would display much better ethics and integrity!
TBL
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Add paranoid to the list. Get over yourself man. I have never heard of you before. But because I can read and use logic to form an opinion, that "gives me away" as a friend if an ex employee? Lol
It's real easy to just argue that anyone saying bad stuff is an ex employees friend or a competitor huh. How about you actually defend the claims made against you instead of changing the focus with excuses. Tell me why you claim to use tial bov's. Tell me why your parts break. Tell me why you steal part designs. Tell me why you ship parts that are unfinished. And PLEASE tell me how you know what % of total your can is catching. I'm pretty sure that I could yank the crap out of a bobs can and it's not going to break. I'm also pretty sure that their solution wouldn't be to have the customer come out of pocket to buy something to fix it. And wait, you replace broken stuff no problem? Just like you took back a "perfectly good sc", failed to refund it as promised. Then tried to claim that it was damaged, just to resell it and try to offer a hush fee to the customer?
Yes, the other tuner guy joined to bring your scams to light. However you join simply to sell your product. Not sure what's worse.
And here's a free tip, you should probably work on your accounting practices if you allowed an employee of a "small guy" business to sneak away $142,000!!! Holy crap man! Are you that out of touch? That's a ton of money for a small bus to lose without noticing. Unless that's also a lie.
But oh well. You will I'm sure respond to this with more paranoid excuses and unprofessional language. And unfortunately you will fool some of the more feeble minded. I'm guessing that your next attempt will be to say that I joined this forum 2 yrs ago to build trust in the comm just in order to bash you today bc my best friend was the guy who stole your money. Smh. Wow.
For the record, I don't associate with low life's that would work for your company or people that steal. And implying that I would is insulting.
It's real easy to just argue that anyone saying bad stuff is an ex employees friend or a competitor huh. How about you actually defend the claims made against you instead of changing the focus with excuses. Tell me why you claim to use tial bov's. Tell me why your parts break. Tell me why you steal part designs. Tell me why you ship parts that are unfinished. And PLEASE tell me how you know what % of total your can is catching. I'm pretty sure that I could yank the crap out of a bobs can and it's not going to break. I'm also pretty sure that their solution wouldn't be to have the customer come out of pocket to buy something to fix it. And wait, you replace broken stuff no problem? Just like you took back a "perfectly good sc", failed to refund it as promised. Then tried to claim that it was damaged, just to resell it and try to offer a hush fee to the customer?
Yes, the other tuner guy joined to bring your scams to light. However you join simply to sell your product. Not sure what's worse.
And here's a free tip, you should probably work on your accounting practices if you allowed an employee of a "small guy" business to sneak away $142,000!!! Holy crap man! Are you that out of touch? That's a ton of money for a small bus to lose without noticing. Unless that's also a lie.
But oh well. You will I'm sure respond to this with more paranoid excuses and unprofessional language. And unfortunately you will fool some of the more feeble minded. I'm guessing that your next attempt will be to say that I joined this forum 2 yrs ago to build trust in the comm just in order to bash you today bc my best friend was the guy who stole your money. Smh. Wow.
For the record, I don't associate with low life's that would work for your company or people that steal. And implying that I would is insulting.
I hope that you are not insinuating that I'm feeble minded just because I'm doing this test and using his product because that would be very insulting.
I'm not convinced of anything yet and have no idea how good or not the RX can is. I'm also not convinced the Bob's can is all that effective either. I think that it's mounting place on the strut tower lets it get way too hot to do it's job effectively and I'm not about to drill holes in my firewall to mount it there. I know it's way too hot to touch after driving the car. Even Joe from UPR says that a can has to be in a fairly cool place and have a longer run of hose to work at it's best.
I know I don't have the technical knowledge to determine what kind of interior design is the most effective at keeping oil and vapors from making it's way to the intake. All I do know is that when I see evidence of oil at the connector on the intake, I feel that the product is not doing the job I bought it to do.
Wayne
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Lololol. So he told you that the bashing would begin at some point? Lol wow. That's even WORSE. This guy knows that his reputation (which was created by ACTUAL customers that were screwed and/or used his products and saw first hand the crappy designs etc. Proven lies, like him saying that his bov is made by the same co that makes TiAL's. Lol that's a blatant LIE!) is right behind him.
Wayne, acting professional is part of the scam. And warning you of the bashing was purely to desensitize it and further gain your trust.
This is some guy you met on the f150 boards as he was making his rounds to ford bc he no longer had anymore sales with Chevy since everyone knows it's a scam. Now he's trying to sell to ford by giving free units to test......smh. We have all been around here for a long time and have nothing to sell you. Who do you want to trust with your $40k car?
Wayne, acting professional is part of the scam. And warning you of the bashing was purely to desensitize it and further gain your trust.
This is some guy you met on the f150 boards as he was making his rounds to ford bc he no longer had anymore sales with Chevy since everyone knows it's a scam. Now he's trying to sell to ford by giving free units to test......smh. We have all been around here for a long time and have nothing to sell you. Who do you want to trust with your $40k car?
The simple fact of this whole matter is that I found the thread about 5.0 catch cans on the f150 forum. I mentioned that I was running a Bob's catch can and Tuner boost asked if I would be interested in testing his can against my can in the same format that was being done in that thread.
I said I would be and he sent me a RX can to test. I've not paid out any money to do this test so it's no skin off of my nose if his can doesn't do what he claims so I don't know how I've been scammed. He or no one else has convinced me of anything yet.
If anything, I was scammed last year when everyone recommended a UPR can to me for my car as well as my fiancée's 07GT that didn't do the job it was supposed to. I have a lot of additional money tied up in these cans buying upgraded fittings and everything else that I've bought and the cans still don't do it's job very well. Maybe his new design can will work like it's supposed to do.
As far as who do I want to trust with my car, so far no catch can manufacturer that I have tried yet has earned that trust so that question remains to be seen.
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Worked through my brain fart this morning for routing.
These catch cans are not engine internals or drivetrain parts - I'm surprised there is so much heated discussion on two guys running some testing. If the catch cans work, great, if my JLT does a better job, that's fine too.
The extended routing is a result of mounting 2 canisters... whichever I find to be more effective will be mounted where the JLT can is at present under my hood, eliminating the excessive hoses. This seems like a simple thing really...
These catch cans are not engine internals or drivetrain parts - I'm surprised there is so much heated discussion on two guys running some testing. If the catch cans work, great, if my JLT does a better job, that's fine too.
The extended routing is a result of mounting 2 canisters... whichever I find to be more effective will be mounted where the JLT can is at present under my hood, eliminating the excessive hoses. This seems like a simple thing really...
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Worked through my brain fart this morning for routing.
These catch cans are not engine internals or drivetrain parts - I'm surprised there is so much heated discussion on two guys running some testing. If the catch cans work, great, if my JLT does a better job, that's fine too.
The extended routing is a result of mounting 2 canisters... whichever I find to be more effective will be mounted where the JLT can is at present under my hood, eliminating the excessive hoses. This seems like a simple thing really...
These catch cans are not engine internals or drivetrain parts - I'm surprised there is so much heated discussion on two guys running some testing. If the catch cans work, great, if my JLT does a better job, that's fine too.
The extended routing is a result of mounting 2 canisters... whichever I find to be more effective will be mounted where the JLT can is at present under my hood, eliminating the excessive hoses. This seems like a simple thing really...
Whichever can works the best for me, will probably be mounted where the RX can is mounted now as it's in a cooler location. The can still gets hot but not so hot that I can't leave my hand on it.
I currently have driven 468 miles since installing the RX can. I'm probably going to do 1,000 miles on each phase since doing the 2,000 miles will take too long and I think 1,000 miles will still give a good idea how each can is doing as shown in the test done on the f150 forum.
Hopefully this thread doesn't get ugly to the point it gets shut down.
Wayne
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I hope that you are not insinuating that I'm feeble minded just because I'm doing this test and using his product because that would be very insulting. I'm not convinced of anything yet and have no idea how good or not the RX can is. I'm also not convinced the Bob's can is all that effective either. I think that it's mounting place on the strut tower lets it get way too hot to do it's job effectively and I'm not about to drill holes in my firewall to mount it there. I know it's way too hot to touch after driving the car. Even Joe from UPR says that a can has to be in a fairly cool place and have a longer run of hose to work at it's best. I know I don't have the technical knowledge to determine what kind of interior design is the most effective at keeping oil and vapors from making it's way to the intake. All I do know is that when I see evidence of oil at the connector on the intake, I feel that the product is not doing the job I bought it to do. Wayne
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