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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fdjizm
i like that chop... go email that picture to ford please lol
Im with you. What a difference. Thats the way it should be. They act like they are adding somthing to make it look bigger if its colored. The piece is still there its just black. Who cares if it looks smaller if it does not look good.
Tampa can you do the same thing on a full rear shot?

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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaBear67
Just for Speculation. I Like the 2010 As Is, but for those complaining about the tail lights and diffuser here's my Photoshop.


What did you change on the taillights? I'm not seeing it. And the black plastic looks the same other than the subtle diffuser fins added in.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Even Steven
What did you change on the taillights? I'm not seeing it. And the black plastic looks the same other than the subtle diffuser fins added in.

Look a little closer Steven, I changed quite a bit. I lowered the edge of the trunk about 3 inches and brougnt the inside corners of the tail lights down to line up with the lower edge of the trunk to eliminate the "Dip" in the tail lights, making the Border that goes around the entire rear end the same width.

Then I cut the top part of the diffuser off, slightly reshaped it and made it body color including the full license plate pocket. The fins on the diffuser were already there but I changed that as well I cut it and moved it up, and further forward tucking it up under the bumper more.

Thanks for the compliments, DarkCandy08GTand Fdjizm, Unfortunately Others like Steven's comment just goes to show no matter what is done, most people that don't like the 2010 are just dead set on not liking it. Either that or I've gotten really good with my Photshoping skills.


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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaBear67
Look a little closer Steven, I changed quite a bit. I lowered the edge of the trunk about 3 inches and brougnt the inside corners of the tail lights down to line up with the lower edge of the trunk to eliminate the "Dip" in the tail lights, making the Border that goes around the entire rear end the same width.

Then I cut the top part of the diffuser off, slightly reshaped it and made it body color including the full license plate pocket. The fins on the diffuser were already there but I changed that as well I cut it and moved it up, and further forward tucking it up under the bumper more.

Thanks for the compliments, DarkCandy08GTand Fdjizm, Unfortunately Others like Steven's comment just goes to show no matter what is done, most people that don't like the 2010 are just dead set on not liking it. Either that or I've gotten really good with my Photshoping skills.


Okay, relax. When I first viewed your post, only the "before" picture showed up. For whatever reason, your photoshopped picture didn't open on my screen. Now that I've seen both pictures, it is obvious what you changed. Looks like an improvement to me. Too bad you couldn't have helped them design the rear, LOL
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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I'd agree that the rear end is the least successful aspect of the redesign. It is just a bit too overstyled with too many angles and elements that just don't cohere very well in the end. The black diaper looks a bit too full diaper lending a kind of droopy, draggy, saggy look to the lower valance. The taillights themselves end up being a bit too busy and there are just a few too many creases, lines and angles sort of forced together. Ends up feeling a little bit of design by committee where everybody had a little bit of a say in what went into it.

Personally, I would have rather seen more a development from the '05 Concept than the current, which seems more related to the Giugiaro (sp-?) concept.

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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rhumb
I'd agree that the rear end is the least successful aspect of the redesign. It is just a bit too overstyled with too many angles and elements that just don't cohere very well in the end. The black diaper looks a bit too full diaper lending a kind of droopy, draggy, saggy look to the lower valance. The taillights themselves end up being a bit too busy and there are just a few too many creases, lines and angles sort of forced together. Ends up feeling a little bit of design by committee where everybody had a little bit of a say in what went into it.

Personally, I would have rather seen more a development from the '05 Concept than the current, which seems more related to the Giugiaro (sp-?) concept.
Your right. No one said do not change it but if your going too make it better not worse than the current.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TampaBear67
Just for Speculation. I Like the 2010 As Is, but for those complaining about the tail lights and diffuser here's my Photoshop.

IMO, Ford could just change the shaping of the black similar to TB's chop. It's the way it protrudes at the top that makes it such an eyesore...
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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Change one thing? Thats easy. Remove the Chev. Avalanche bumper from the rear of the car.
Replace it with something similar to the photoshop you see here.....
Ford did a hellava job on everything else, but honestly, how Ford could possibly get a majority of the desigers to sign off on that rear end, is well, odd to say the least.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Well, the rear facia has already been mentioned, so the one thing I think needs addressed is the little triangle "mutton chops" on the lower front coners between the grill and the front wheels. Man, those look really bad and "drag inducing" to say the least. All that black plastic will make it a pain to wax, and looks like a Pontiac too.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang Buster
Well, the rear facia has already been mentioned, so the one thing I think needs addressed is the little triangle "mutton chops" on the lower front coners between the grill and the front wheels. Man, those look really bad and "drag inducing" to say the least.
Actually, the reason they put them there in the first place was to improve air flow.

Originally Posted by Mustang Buster
All that black plastic will make it a pain to wax
Not if you use Zaino.

Originally Posted by Mustang Buster
and looks like a Pontiac too.
So did the '94-'98 tail light treatment, but I digress.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zzcoop
Actually, the reason they put them there in the first place was to improve air flow.



Not if you use Zaino.



So did the '94-'98 tail light treatment, but I digress.
Good play by play info. I guess I would like the front end more if it was the V6 front end with the GT fogs. The GT front end just looks a little too busy for me with the mutton chops. Perhaps taking those off and adding a splitter like the GT500 would help.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mustang Buster
Well, the rear facia has already been mentioned, so the one thing I think needs addressed is the little triangle "mutton chops" on the lower front coners between the grill and the front wheels. Man, those look really bad and "drag inducing" to say the least. All that black plastic will make it a pain to wax, and looks like a Pontiac too.
True, but a nice lip spoiler could make it look okay. Think of something similar to the Astra Hammond, but designed for the '10. It could pull it all together nicely.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mustang Buster
Well, the rear facia has already been mentioned, so the one thing I think needs addressed is the little triangle "mutton chops" on the lower front coners between the grill and the front wheels. Man, those look really bad and "drag inducing" to say the least. All that black plastic will make it a pain to wax, and looks like a Pontiac too.
You Mean Like This?



Or This With the Grill Uprights Painted.



In my opinion it makes it look like an 05-09
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 04:32 AM
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Only elvis looked good with them...

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TampaBear67

Or This With the Grill Uprights Painted.



In my opinion it makes it look like an 05-09
Looks much better with the grill uprights painted
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaBear67
You Mean Like This?



Or This With the Grill Uprights Painted.



In my opinion it makes it look like an 05-09
Very nice, that makes it look much, much better and not so busy. Giving it a shave is the best part, as I can even handle the black uprights in the grill now, although I still think they look even better painted. Nice work
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Even Steven
One thing? The ENTIRE rear end of the car. Okay, so that's more than just one thing, but it needs to be done. If you forced me to pick just one thing though, I'd have to say the lower bumper cover has to go in favor of something more pleasing to the eyes.
ditto here...the tapered taillights just dont scream 'MUSTANG' at all to me for some reason...everyone has their likes/dislikes, no right or wrong, just opinions- I do hope it sells strongly, but I really didnt ever crave a new mustang until the 05 came out, and with the end of the 09, the cravings gone again for me. from what I'm reading, quite a few folks are a bit disappointed about the new rearend- hopefully it will grow on folks in time and still sell at a decent level, its new, it had to change sooner or later, and repeating the excitement of the homerun design they did on the 05 may not happen for a long, long time- I personally think maybe they coulda had Hau Tai-Tang and J Mays or whoever penned the 05 final version collaborate on the refresh- think they mighta been able to tweak it a little more than what came out this time.
personally I was hoping for a fastback with factory quarter louvers, 'hips', no hockey stick crease, and the spear (or something) in the hood...to me every angle on the 010 just seems like it coulda been a little different...bigger headlight buckets woulda looked more 70-ish, not covering the top of the fogs wouldnt make the lights look like they came off the challenger, they coulda either 'closed' the hockey stick into the new crease, or deleted it (deleting woulda been more 70 boss302 stripe friendly), and I dont see why the new crease reappears after the wheel arch to disappear into nothing...I think smooth back there mighta been cleaner. the 'chamferred' rear corners are not something I ever recall seeing on any mustang, nor the tapered taillamps...to me it almost seems like they are wanting to get away from the 'retro' (hate that term) that worked so well in 05...but that was then, this is now, and the 010 is still a sharp car- just not one I'd crave...
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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i would get rid of the white lenses on the tail lights. id make the whole lens red with a little white backup square on the bottom right corner of each tail light, similar to the 2005 design.
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by HastaLaVista
The tail lights would be much better just without that little angle near the inside:


That does look much better. The kink in the bottom of the taillamp looks like an eye booger that I want to pick out...
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ford4v429
the 'chamferred' rear corners are not something I ever recall seeing on any mustang, nor the tapered taillamps...to me it almost seems like they are wanting to get away from the 'retro' (hate that term) that worked so well in 05...but that was then, this is now, and the 010 is still a sharp car- just not one I'd crave...
There is an obsession at Ford design to copy the headlamp design and repeat it at the rear for the taillamps. For example the 2002 Thunderbird... In the case of the 2010 Mustang they want to repeat the same bent corners in the bumper that are on the front. For it it doesn't work and I do not like it. It is not desirable to me to have the rear look like clenching in it's butt cheeks to keep from accidentally pooping on itself.
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