Idiot driver!
4/25/14, 05:26 PM
#1
Idiot driver!
Sitting in traffic on a busy 2 lane road. Moron woman in front pulls into a turn lane to the right....I start to go past her....she then tries to whip around and do an illegal u-turn across me and a double yellow line.
I accelerated hard as I saw what she was doing, but couldn't avoid her. She hit my Stang just above the right rear wheel and also grinds the right side of my bumper. No wheel damage or damage to suspension, exhaust, etc. Car drives fine.
There is no obvious quarter panel.....how can it be repaired without looking like an obvious repair job?
Geez....
I accelerated hard as I saw what she was doing, but couldn't avoid her. She hit my Stang just above the right rear wheel and also grinds the right side of my bumper. No wheel damage or damage to suspension, exhaust, etc. Car drives fine.
There is no obvious quarter panel.....how can it be repaired without looking like an obvious repair job?
Geez....
Last edited by RTR-5.0; 4/26/14 at 04:31 PM.
4/26/14, 09:14 AM
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As for the no Obvious quarter panel, the whole side of the car is stamped out of 1 piece of sheet metal. That being said if the quarter is replaced the go up to the door and into the roof. A good body shop will make it look like it was before the wreck.
4/26/14, 01:15 PM
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OP, just happy to hear no one was hurt. It seem that people are doing everything in their cars but driving these days. Hope everything works out, and you're rolling again soon.
4/26/14, 04:14 PM
#10
I'm not the best at uploading pictures, but here are a few:
My car's damage:
Idiot woman's car; of course not near the damage as mine:
My car's damage:
Idiot woman's car; of course not near the damage as mine:
Last edited by RTR-5.0; 4/26/14 at 04:16 PM.
4/26/14, 04:21 PM
#11
And here is how it happened; apologies for the cheesy MS Paint graphics. (hey, it works!)
Sitting in heavy traffic on a 2 lane, double yellow road. She is in front of me, with a short turn lane into a church parking lot off to the right. Light traffic in the oncoming lane and one car has already done an illegal u turn.
Idiot woman pulls into the turn lane. No signal, nothing, just pulls in and pauses. I begin to go past her:
As I go past, out of the corner of my eye I see her begin to turn toward me. I accelerate and swerve to the left, but she nails me:
Sitting in heavy traffic on a 2 lane, double yellow road. She is in front of me, with a short turn lane into a church parking lot off to the right. Light traffic in the oncoming lane and one car has already done an illegal u turn.
Idiot woman pulls into the turn lane. No signal, nothing, just pulls in and pauses. I begin to go past her:
As I go past, out of the corner of my eye I see her begin to turn toward me. I accelerate and swerve to the left, but she nails me:
4/26/14, 07:34 PM
#13
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I think a good body man can massage that panel back into shape. But I think if it was mine I would want it replaced, correctly. The thing is, there are not many shops who take pride in their work any more, so I would be worried about the results if it is repaired or replaced.
4/26/14, 08:08 PM
#14
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Sorry to see the damage...but what can be said 
as for repair options, my 2 cents- I worry about all the cutting/welding on replacing a quarter, the factory dipped welds are hard to replace... I think if it were mine, I'd *hope* a good bodyguy could work that panel back into shape without cutting the car at all, just reseal the inner fenderwell seam, as surely it moved enough to crack the epoxy, but I would think it a lot less invasive than a cut... the 'bodyside' panel on every new car since the 90's is a one piece stamping from the cowl to the taillights- cutting in a quarter means adding seams the car never had before the accident... yes it would be a new panel, but new weld seam/filler over that seam would always worry me... plus drilling all the spotwelds around the rockers/trunk/doorjamb- its pretty major surgery... often thats the only option, but by this one pic, I dont see a lot of distortion anywhere- I really think if it were mine I'd rather see a expert guy hammer/dolly that back into shape- a really good bodyguy could probably dolly to get 95% of that flat with just a few coats of fast build primer... no doubt some filler will be needed, but still a GOOD hammer/dolly guy could probably get it... maybe insist on seeing the metal before filling. My Mom had a new 90 tbird that got hit in the roof by a semi tire- they didnt enen try to straighten it, and put 5/8" football shaped bondo in that 500 mile car... I'd REALLY insist on seeing the metal work before fill/prime, and if its not up to what you'd find acceptable, have it cut... cases like this you might get some leeway with the insurer- just tell them, if they want to make it as good as it was, you expect a seamless bodyside replacement panel, and a full epoxy dip like it had before she hit you- those things are IMPOSSIBLE, so... keep reminding them they are supposed to return your car to the condition it was before the hit- it didnt have a hidden split/weld in the quarter or roofline, it had a full epoxy dip sealant that simply cannot be replaced...
odds are if you push it in this manner, I think you should have a legit reason for a diminished value claim. most folks just want their car shiny again, most bodyshops can get that easily- but if you stick to your guns that your car cannot be as good as before, they gotta work with you. good luck, and be glad it wasnt worse... a tiny bit harder and a major cut/replace would be the only option. things can always be worse...
as for repair options, my 2 cents- I worry about all the cutting/welding on replacing a quarter, the factory dipped welds are hard to replace... I think if it were mine, I'd *hope* a good bodyguy could work that panel back into shape without cutting the car at all, just reseal the inner fenderwell seam, as surely it moved enough to crack the epoxy, but I would think it a lot less invasive than a cut... the 'bodyside' panel on every new car since the 90's is a one piece stamping from the cowl to the taillights- cutting in a quarter means adding seams the car never had before the accident... yes it would be a new panel, but new weld seam/filler over that seam would always worry me... plus drilling all the spotwelds around the rockers/trunk/doorjamb- its pretty major surgery... often thats the only option, but by this one pic, I dont see a lot of distortion anywhere- I really think if it were mine I'd rather see a expert guy hammer/dolly that back into shape- a really good bodyguy could probably dolly to get 95% of that flat with just a few coats of fast build primer... no doubt some filler will be needed, but still a GOOD hammer/dolly guy could probably get it... maybe insist on seeing the metal before filling. My Mom had a new 90 tbird that got hit in the roof by a semi tire- they didnt enen try to straighten it, and put 5/8" football shaped bondo in that 500 mile car... I'd REALLY insist on seeing the metal work before fill/prime, and if its not up to what you'd find acceptable, have it cut... cases like this you might get some leeway with the insurer- just tell them, if they want to make it as good as it was, you expect a seamless bodyside replacement panel, and a full epoxy dip like it had before she hit you- those things are IMPOSSIBLE, so... keep reminding them they are supposed to return your car to the condition it was before the hit- it didnt have a hidden split/weld in the quarter or roofline, it had a full epoxy dip sealant that simply cannot be replaced...
odds are if you push it in this manner, I think you should have a legit reason for a diminished value claim. most folks just want their car shiny again, most bodyshops can get that easily- but if you stick to your guns that your car cannot be as good as before, they gotta work with you. good luck, and be glad it wasnt worse... a tiny bit harder and a major cut/replace would be the only option. things can always be worse...
4/26/14, 09:03 PM
#15
Thanks for the info. I'm really nervous about what can actually be done to make this car right.
<I think you should have a legit reason for a diminished value claim>
I'm already looking into this. I plan on claiming this once I finalize the repair.
<I think you should have a legit reason for a diminished value claim>
I'm already looking into this. I plan on claiming this once I finalize the repair.
4/26/14, 09:59 PM
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Sorry to see the damage...but what can be said
as for repair options, my 2 cents- I worry about all the cutting/welding on replacing a quarter, the factory dipped welds are hard to replace... I think if it were mine, I'd *hope* a good bodyguy could work that panel back into shape without cutting the car at all, just reseal the inner fenderwell seam, as surely it moved enough to crack the epoxy, but I would think it a lot less invasive than a cut... the 'bodyside' panel on every new car since the 90's is a one piece stamping from the cowl to the taillights- cutting in a quarter means adding seams the car never had before the accident... yes it would be a new panel, but new weld seam/filler over that seam would always worry me... plus drilling all the spotwelds around the rockers/trunk/doorjamb- its pretty major surgery... often thats the only option, but by this one pic, I dont see a lot of distortion anywhere- I really think if it were mine I'd rather see a expert guy hammer/dolly that back into shape- a really good bodyguy could probably dolly to get 95% of that flat with just a few coats of fast build primer... no doubt some filler will be needed, but still a GOOD hammer/dolly guy could probably get it... maybe insist on seeing the metal before filling. My Mom had a new 90 tbird that got hit in the roof by a semi tire- they didnt enen try to straighten it, and put 5/8" football shaped bondo in that 500 mile car... I'd REALLY insist on seeing the metal work before fill/prime, and if its not up to what you'd find acceptable, have it cut... cases like this you might get some leeway with the insurer- just tell them, if they want to make it as good as it was, you expect a seamless bodyside replacement panel, and a full epoxy dip like it had before she hit you- those things are IMPOSSIBLE, so... keep reminding them they are supposed to return your car to the condition it was before the hit- it didnt have a hidden split/weld in the quarter or roofline, it had a full epoxy dip sealant that simply cannot be replaced...
odds are if you push it in this manner, I think you should have a legit reason for a diminished value claim. most folks just want their car shiny again, most bodyshops can get that easily- but if you stick to your guns that your car cannot be as good as before, they gotta work with you. good luck, and be glad it wasnt worse... a tiny bit harder and a major cut/replace would be the only option. things can always be worse...
as for repair options, my 2 cents- I worry about all the cutting/welding on replacing a quarter, the factory dipped welds are hard to replace... I think if it were mine, I'd *hope* a good bodyguy could work that panel back into shape without cutting the car at all, just reseal the inner fenderwell seam, as surely it moved enough to crack the epoxy, but I would think it a lot less invasive than a cut... the 'bodyside' panel on every new car since the 90's is a one piece stamping from the cowl to the taillights- cutting in a quarter means adding seams the car never had before the accident... yes it would be a new panel, but new weld seam/filler over that seam would always worry me... plus drilling all the spotwelds around the rockers/trunk/doorjamb- its pretty major surgery... often thats the only option, but by this one pic, I dont see a lot of distortion anywhere- I really think if it were mine I'd rather see a expert guy hammer/dolly that back into shape- a really good bodyguy could probably dolly to get 95% of that flat with just a few coats of fast build primer... no doubt some filler will be needed, but still a GOOD hammer/dolly guy could probably get it... maybe insist on seeing the metal before filling. My Mom had a new 90 tbird that got hit in the roof by a semi tire- they didnt enen try to straighten it, and put 5/8" football shaped bondo in that 500 mile car... I'd REALLY insist on seeing the metal work before fill/prime, and if its not up to what you'd find acceptable, have it cut... cases like this you might get some leeway with the insurer- just tell them, if they want to make it as good as it was, you expect a seamless bodyside replacement panel, and a full epoxy dip like it had before she hit you- those things are IMPOSSIBLE, so... keep reminding them they are supposed to return your car to the condition it was before the hit- it didnt have a hidden split/weld in the quarter or roofline, it had a full epoxy dip sealant that simply cannot be replaced...
odds are if you push it in this manner, I think you should have a legit reason for a diminished value claim. most folks just want their car shiny again, most bodyshops can get that easily- but if you stick to your guns that your car cannot be as good as before, they gotta work with you. good luck, and be glad it wasnt worse... a tiny bit harder and a major cut/replace would be the only option. things can always be worse...
4/26/14, 11:02 PM
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If you are interested in a diminished value claim, read this: https://themustangsource.com/showpos...3&postcount=51. Sorry to see the accident!
4/27/14, 07:01 AM
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If you are interested in a diminished value claim, read this: https://themustangsource.com/showpos...3&postcount=51. Sorry to see the accident!
4/27/14, 09:55 AM
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