2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

I think we missed these? V6 shots with 1/4 window and tailights.

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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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I think we missed these? V6 shots with 1/4 window and tailights.

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2010-...shots/1044613/











Also, now seeing a bunch of different "base" V6s, I'm guessing the base models won't get the painted mirror caps. I know we've seen some of the V6 mules with and without painted ones, and the ones WITH the painted ones had the 18" wheels. Btw, I've been keeping up with all the current threads, and I don't remember seeing these so if they have been posted, just delete this thread.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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And I think it hurts to say, but at least with these spy shots, I think the hips now make the S197's already fat ***, look fatter. :-/
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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nice find, i have not seen them yet

i am really liking that body line running through the mid door to the fender, and there is nothing wrong with a fat *** as long as it is preportioned well..

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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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I think the issue of a big butt has less to do with the hips and general body lines but rather, and especially on the '10, the visual mass of the rear bumper and valence. It epitomizes what I deride as the "full diaper" look on too many cars these days, with rather bulbous rear ends and lower bumper areas. This impression is further reinforced by rather flaccid, saggy lines that connote anything other than taut, trim musculature one would hope for from a performance car..

The '05 Stang's generally well-toned rear free of the "full diaper," but it seems that Ford designers could restrain themselves no longer and jumped on that bandwagon for the '10. Rather than taut haunches, raised and ready to pounce, we get a drooping, drag-*** impression. This is further emphasized by the droop of the taillights, giving the impression that they are being dragged down by the visual mass of the bumper and over sized and overly complex valence.

I think, perhaps, that Ford designers were subtly trying to mirror the forward thrusting angle of the front of the car in elements such as the side mirrors and rear end slant. Unfortunately, I think this admirable attempt at overall design cohesion gets lost and sabotaged by various things. Perhaps while concentrating on that subtle thrust angle aspect, they simply overlook the far more apparent impression of soft, drooping mass hung way out back away from the visual CG.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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I'm always impressed with your vocabulary!
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Well, I'll judge the size and quality of its booty when I see the final, uncammo'd shots.

BTW, looks like someone stolen the new pony off the nose!
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Is it me or the more we see of this car it looks more Euro than Muscle? Those taillights and black plastic still need some getting used too.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2010-...shots/1044613/











Also, now seeing a bunch of different "base" V6s, I'm guessing the base models won't get the painted mirror caps. I know we've seen some of the V6 mules with and without painted ones, and the ones WITH the painted ones had the 18" wheels. Btw, I've been keeping up with all the current threads, and I don't remember seeing these so if they have been posted, just delete this thread.
lol, i didnt even notice until you pointed that out about the mirrors. I guess they did it so that everything didnt look better on the V6 than the GT lol. hopefully they will be colored to the 10's equivilent to the pony package.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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I think it looks good.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkCandy08GT
Is it me or the more we see of this car it looks more Euro than Muscle? Those taillights and black plastic still need some getting used too.
I agree, especially with those base wheels too. They look like Alfa Romeo wheels or something..

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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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I'm always impressed with your vocabulary!
Hopefully my thoughts even more so

Certainly we need to withhold final judgment until we can see full production pics and perhaps to see them in the flesh as some cars simply don't photograph as well as they look in real life.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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^^ the challenger falls in that category. really good looking car in person.

in turn, it performs better on paper then it does in real life!
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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I dig it. I haven't seen this mentioned yet but it looks like the trunk lid is new. It's curved more all the way across and has a nice upward turn at the tip.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rhumb
I think the issue of a big butt has less to do with the hips and general body lines but rather, and especially on the '10, the visual mass of the rear bumper and valence. It epitomizes what I deride as the "full diaper" look on too many cars these days, with rather bulbous rear ends and lower bumper areas. This impression is further reinforced by rather flaccid, saggy lines that connote anything other than taut, trim musculature one would hope for from a performance car..

The '05 Stang's generally well-toned rear free of the "full diaper," but it seems that Ford designers could restrain themselves no longer and jumped on that bandwagon for the '10. Rather than taut haunches, raised and ready to pounce, we get a drooping, drag-*** impression. This is further emphasized by the droop of the taillights, giving the impression that they are being dragged down by the visual mass of the bumper and over sized and overly complex valence.

I think, perhaps, that Ford designers were subtly trying to mirror the forward thrusting angle of the front of the car in elements such as the side mirrors and rear end slant. Unfortunately, I think this admirable attempt at overall design cohesion gets lost and sabotaged by various things. Perhaps while concentrating on that subtle thrust angle aspect, they simply overlook the far more apparent impression of soft, drooping mass hung way out back away from the visual CG.
That's a pretty harsh criticism considering it's still in full camo paint. I would wait and see the finished product before making such a sweeping condemnation and harsh judgment of it.

The whole point of the camo paint is to hide the lines of the car and make it look like a "drooping mass".

The rear end is the worst part of the current cars design in my opinion and will benefit from any change really.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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rhumb, your point is well-said, but your eyes are a victim of the camo. The rear end has actually been reduced in size from the current Mustang. Because the black lower valence is not camod, your eyes are drawn to it. The camo zebra paint's flat finish and the white/black theme hides the shapes and forms of the metal underneath it. The black wheels and half-covered tailamps also add "visual weight" to the rear end.

One of the ways car designers make the body look more "taut" over the wheels is adding black valences, adding plan view ( those chopped corners we all have been talking about- de-squaring those 90 deg corners from top view ) changes in section ( the bread slice through the body ) and enlarging and wrapping tailamps around the corners. ( Big wheels also help- check out a 18" Challenger SE vs. a 21" SRT-8 ) But you ( collectively ) can't see any of this very well through the camo unless you've been in the biz and know what to look for. Not criticizing you, just trying to explain.

Wrap a big sheet of zebra wallpaper around any car and it will look bigger....Once the camo comes off, I believe you will see the complete opposite of what you are describing. This I have been assured by those who have seen it undisguised.


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I think the issue of a big butt has less to do with the hips and general body lines but rather, and especially on the '10, the visual mass of the rear bumper and valence. It epitomizes what I deride as the "full diaper" look on too many cars these days, with rather bulbous rear ends and lower bumper areas. This impression is further reinforced by rather flaccid, saggy lines that connote anything other than taut, trim musculature one would hope for from a performance car..

The '05 Stang's generally well-toned rear free of the "full diaper," but it seems that Ford designers could restrain themselves no longer and jumped on that bandwagon for the '10. Rather than taut haunches, raised and ready to pounce, we get a drooping, drag-*** impression. This is further emphasized by the droop of the taillights, giving the impression that they are being dragged down by the visual mass of the bumper and over sized and overly complex valence.

I think, perhaps, that Ford designers were subtly trying to mirror the forward thrusting angle of the front of the car in elements such as the side mirrors and rear end slant. Unfortunately, I think this admirable attempt at overall design cohesion gets lost and sabotaged by various things. Perhaps while concentrating on that subtle thrust angle aspect, they simply overlook the far more apparent impression of soft, drooping mass hung way out back away from the visual CG.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Does anyone ever check the gallery?
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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you stole my idea of making a thread that was only filled with pictures and no text, you just put it in the gallery!

and no, i was not aware of this so thanks.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:26 AM
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Lol, I DO check the gallery from time to time, but I read through the threads more often, and I hadn't seen these pics posted, so I thought I would throw them up. And obviously a bunch of people hadn't seen them yet so :P!
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TMSBrad
Does anyone ever check the gallery?
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