Found reasaon for the HOLDS!
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Found reasaon for the HOLDS!
just pulled my window sticker up, accidently deleted the old one i had stored in machine..
there is now a second sticker..
they forgot to add the second window sticker..
its for crash testing.. about this car meeting 2010 testing standards even tho its a 2011 released in 2010..
(paraphrasing)
to be pealed off by owner..
there is now a second sticker..
they forgot to add the second window sticker..
its for crash testing.. about this car meeting 2010 testing standards even tho its a 2011 released in 2010..
(paraphrasing)
to be pealed off by owner..
Last edited by pony racer; May 26, 2010 at 08:31 PM.
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I see the update on mine too. Maybe they just finished the 2011MY crash ratings and added to the sticker. This shouldn't be even remotely related to the hold. If it is I'ma Killsomeone.
Tasca Super Boss 429 Member
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This has NOTHING to do with the hold. Crash test methodology changed for 2011. We got a memo from Ford about this a couple weeks ago that they would just send new stickers after the fact, as needed. Didn't slow down shipping of 2011 Super Duty trucks at all and we've been getting those for well over a month already.
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Asked my dealer about it today. He used to work for Ford for 9 years before buying the dealership. He worked on allocations.
According to him, there are sometimes QC holds, but they are rare these days. The reason for filling a lot with a hot new model (like, say, a 400 HP Mustang) is to prevent disputes between dealers. If you hold them for awhile, build up a critical mass and then release a large number, all regions of the country get cars at (roughly) the same time, and nobody can complain of favoritism.
I don't know anything about the business, but I will say that this sounds plausible to me.
According to him, there are sometimes QC holds, but they are rare these days. The reason for filling a lot with a hot new model (like, say, a 400 HP Mustang) is to prevent disputes between dealers. If you hold them for awhile, build up a critical mass and then release a large number, all regions of the country get cars at (roughly) the same time, and nobody can complain of favoritism.
I don't know anything about the business, but I will say that this sounds plausible to me.
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Asked my dealer about it today. He used to work for Ford for 9 years before buying the dealership. He worked on allocations.
According to him, there are sometimes QC holds, but they are rare these days. The reason for filling a lot with a hot new model (like, say, a 400 HP Mustang) is to prevent disputes between dealers. If you hold them for awhile, build up a critical mass and then release a large number, all regions of the country get cars at (roughly) the same time, and nobody can complain of favoritism.
I don't know anything about the business, but I will say that this sounds plausible to me.
According to him, there are sometimes QC holds, but they are rare these days. The reason for filling a lot with a hot new model (like, say, a 400 HP Mustang) is to prevent disputes between dealers. If you hold them for awhile, build up a critical mass and then release a large number, all regions of the country get cars at (roughly) the same time, and nobody can complain of favoritism.
I don't know anything about the business, but I will say that this sounds plausible to me.
Let's not ****-off the dealers.
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According to him, there are sometimes QC holds, but they are rare these days. The reason for filling a lot with a hot new model (like, say, a 400 HP Mustang) is to prevent disputes between dealers. If you hold them for awhile, build up a critical mass and then release a large number, all regions of the country get cars at (roughly) the same time, and nobody can complain of favoritism.
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Asked my dealer about it today. He used to work for Ford for 9 years before buying the dealership. He worked on allocations.
According to him, there are sometimes QC holds, but they are rare these days. The reason for filling a lot with a hot new model (like, say, a 400 HP Mustang) is to prevent disputes between dealers. If you hold them for awhile, build up a critical mass and then release a large number, all regions of the country get cars at (roughly) the same time, and nobody can complain of favoritism.
I don't know anything about the business, but I will say that this sounds plausible to me.
According to him, there are sometimes QC holds, but they are rare these days. The reason for filling a lot with a hot new model (like, say, a 400 HP Mustang) is to prevent disputes between dealers. If you hold them for awhile, build up a critical mass and then release a large number, all regions of the country get cars at (roughly) the same time, and nobody can complain of favoritism.
I don't know anything about the business, but I will say that this sounds plausible to me.
Ford wants to sell cars, not appease individual dealers. Dealers sell cars to make themselves money. They don't care if Ford makes money in the process or not. Simple business.
Based on this assertion, a dealer is just going to take his ball and go home (stop selling Fords) if he doesn't get the GT500 or the white 5.0 he wanted? Very doubtful.
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MYTH BUSTED.
Ford wants to sell cars, not appease individual dealers. Dealers sell cars to make themselves money. They don't care if Ford makes money in the process or not. Simple business.
Based on this assertion, a dealer is just going to take his ball and go home (stop selling Fords) if he doesn't get the GT500 or the white 5.0 he wanted? Very doubtful.
Ford wants to sell cars, not appease individual dealers. Dealers sell cars to make themselves money. They don't care if Ford makes money in the process or not. Simple business.
Based on this assertion, a dealer is just going to take his ball and go home (stop selling Fords) if he doesn't get the GT500 or the white 5.0 he wanted? Very doubtful.
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MYTH BUSTED.
Ford wants to sell cars, not appease individual dealers. Dealers sell cars to make themselves money. They don't care if Ford makes money in the process or not. Simple business.
Based on this assertion, a dealer is just going to take his ball and go home (stop selling Fords) if he doesn't get the GT500 or the white 5.0 he wanted? Very doubtful.
Ford wants to sell cars, not appease individual dealers. Dealers sell cars to make themselves money. They don't care if Ford makes money in the process or not. Simple business.
Based on this assertion, a dealer is just going to take his ball and go home (stop selling Fords) if he doesn't get the GT500 or the white 5.0 he wanted? Very doubtful.
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Asked my dealer about it today. He used to work for Ford for 9 years before buying the dealership. He worked on allocations.
According to him, there are sometimes QC holds, but they are rare these days. The reason for filling a lot with a hot new model (like, say, a 400 HP Mustang) is to prevent disputes between dealers. If you hold them for awhile, build up a critical mass and then release a large number, all regions of the country get cars at (roughly) the same time, and nobody can complain of favoritism.
I don't know anything about the business, but I will say that this sounds plausible to me.
According to him, there are sometimes QC holds, but they are rare these days. The reason for filling a lot with a hot new model (like, say, a 400 HP Mustang) is to prevent disputes between dealers. If you hold them for awhile, build up a critical mass and then release a large number, all regions of the country get cars at (roughly) the same time, and nobody can complain of favoritism.
I don't know anything about the business, but I will say that this sounds plausible to me.
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QC holds happen nearly everyday. If its not happening to Ford, GM or Chrysler. Its happening to one of there hundreds of suppliers. Its a good thing! It means the problem has been caught and hasn't been pushed to "you" the customer.
Some "holds" may only last an hour, while others may last for days. It all depends on the part, quantity, severity of the problem, etc.
Some "holds" may only last an hour, while others may last for days. It all depends on the part, quantity, severity of the problem, etc.
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But I do know that a giant multinational automaker has a lot of stakeholder to consider -- retailers, customers, unions, regulators, journalists, etc.
Dealers often fight with automakers . . . sometimes in public, sometimes not.
I could see holding on a few extra weeks to tamp down fights between regions. As has been said here before, most retail customers are NOT like us -- constantly calling to check the status of a new order.
My dealer, on the other hand, calls every morning . . . cuz that's his job.
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Indeed, mine has a similar sticker. I think Ford won't publishing the crash test results for a while. The NHTSA pretty much made the testing standards harsher, so I doubt the 2011 tested by 2011 standards will have 5-star safety ratings, but given the competition are all 2010s tested by 2010 standards, if Ford went and published the 2011 standards on the 2011 they could be shooting sales in the foot. People might see the 3 or 4-star rating or whatever on a 2011 Mustang and compare it to the 5-star 2010 Camaro or Challenger, or any other 2010 for that matter and think the 2011 is a death trap, unknowing about the new standards.
So more than likely we won't get to see the new standards published until the competition puts out their 2011s.
So more than likely we won't get to see the new standards published until the competition puts out their 2011s.
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