2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

Ford's Next-Generation Navigation System

Old Sep 18, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by krnpimpsta
And to everyone who thinks navigation makes you less of a man, or makes you look like you don't know how to navigate:

I used to feel the same way before I got nav capability in my car. I always thought, what's the point, just learn the roads, wuss.

But after having GPS for a while, I can honestly say more information in the car is better. What are you going to do when you're far from home (happens alot in large metro areas), and you just get a call that the sushi resteraunt is closed on saturdays, so your friends are meeting up Location X instead? Drive home and mapquest? Demand a turn by turn list of directions to something 10 miles away and scribble it down?

Also very helpful when you're in a hurry.

I find this anti-GPS sentiment just as silly as noob programmers who insist on coding exclusively in notepad, even when there are much more powerful coding tools around. It doesn't make you a bigger programmer or man. What separates us from the apes is our ability use tools to perform actions than an unaided human.

But yeah, no offense to the luddites . I can understand your desire for a stripped down no-frills, serious race car.. and it really does make sense if the mustang is only a race-car for you. For me, a mustang will be my only car for the forseeable future, so it must be all things. (Fast, pretty, luxurious, high tech). Just spouting off my views.
Yeah, I don't get the whole "anti-NAV" movement, either. If you don't want it, or can't figure out how to work it, or believe that "real men" drive around in circles for hours trying to find their destination, then by all means, don't order it.

It's an option, after all. Not everybody will opt to order the same trim packages, either.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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Its all BS. Navis are one of the great inventions of our age!
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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What is "holdback"?
Hold back is an amount of money that is paid to the dealer when a vehicle is sold retail or lease. Although if you dealer trade or sell it to another dealer you wont get paid that amount. At least thats how it was when I worked at both a Chrysler and GM store. Holdback is used to pay for advertising costs locally or keeping the lights on or cleaning in most cases but with a good turnover ratio(meaning selling the car fast to limit floorplan costs) it can also be extra profit. Anyone else care to expand on this?
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by krnpimpsta
And to everyone who thinks navigation makes you less of a man, or makes you look like you don't know how to navigate:

I used to feel the same way before I got nav capability in my car. I always thought, what's the point, just learn the roads, wuss.

But after having GPS for a while, I can honestly say more information in the car is better. What are you going to do when you're far from home (happens alot in large metro areas), and you just get a call that the sushi resteraunt is closed on saturdays, so your friends are meeting up Location X instead? Drive home and mapquest? Demand a turn by turn list of directions to something 10 miles away and scribble it down?

Also very helpful when you're in a hurry.

I find this anti-GPS sentiment just as silly as noob programmers who insist on coding exclusively in notepad, even when there are much more powerful coding tools around. It doesn't make you a bigger programmer or man. What separates us from the apes is our ability use tools to perform actions better than an unaided human.

But yeah, no offense to the luddites . I can understand your desire for a stripped down no-frills, serious race car.. and it really does make sense if the mustang is only a race-car for you. For me, a mustang will be my only car for the forseeable future, so it must be all things. (Fast, pretty, luxurious, high tech). Just spouting off my views.
AMEN!!!!!
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FordBlueHeart
Dont forget that the list price is MSRP for the Nav option. X plan basically pays invoice. I'm not sure what the MSRP price is for the glass roof, but invoice cost is only $1736.
Sorry, maybe it is different for x plan versus a,z,d plans.
The formula for my '08 on X-Plan for the total car purchase would be (invoice*.996)+75.00
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by denlem
The formula for my '08 on X-Plan for the total car purchase would be (invoice*.996)+75.00
Yeah, I wasnt sure exactly. I guess I'm lazy, I just look at the dealer invoice.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by krnpimpsta
...For me, a mustang will be my only car for the forseeable future, so it must be all things. (Fast, pretty, luxurious, high tech)
+1,000,000

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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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definitly....+1
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by krnpimpsta

But yeah, no offense to the luddites . I can understand your desire for a stripped down no-frills, serious race car.. and it really does make sense if the mustang is only a race-car for you. For me, a mustang will be my only car for the forseeable future, so it must be all things. (Fast, pretty, luxurious, high tech). Just spouting off my views.
+1000
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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It would take me a year to learn all of that stuff.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by krnpimpsta

But yeah, no offense to the luddites . I can understand your desire for a stripped down no-frills, serious race car.. and it really does make sense if the mustang is only a race-car for you. For me, a mustang will be my only car for the forseeable future, so it must be all things. (Fast, pretty, luxurious, high tech). Just spouting off my views.


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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KGray571
Originally Posted by krnpimpsta

But yeah, no offense to the luddites . I can understand your desire for a stripped down no-frills, serious race car.. and it really does make sense if the mustang is only a race-car for you. For me, a mustang will be my only car for the forseeable future, so it must be all things. (Fast, pretty, luxurious, high tech). Just spouting off my views.


Lets put in affordable too.
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by krnpimpsta
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But yeah, no offense to the luddites . I can understand your desire for a stripped down no-frills, serious race car.. and it really does make sense if the mustang is only a race-car for you. For me, a mustang will be my only car for the forseeable future, so it must be all things. (Fast, pretty, luxurious, high tech). Just spouting off my views.
Ford does make such a stripped down no-frills, serious race Mustang. I guess it's not enough for teh luddites
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RCSignals
Ford does make such a stripped down no-frills, serious race Mustang. I guess it's not enough for teh luddites
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Ok. Will the nav part of this unit be able to tell me where red light or speeding cameras are located? Anybody know?
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WaltM
Ok. Will the nav part of this unit be able to tell me where red light or speeding cameras are located? Anybody know?
There are websites which do that now, so if its web-enabled I would say yes.
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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I would like this Nav system.
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Moosetang
There are websites which do that now, so if its web-enabled I would say yes.
If yes, then it's worth every penny. My sister has one in her Navigator, I'll have to check it out.
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by codeman94
It would take me a year to learn all of that stuff.
It's not a BMW LOL....their NAVi manual is like "War and Peace". I hear the Lincoln MKS is intuitive (as it should be).
I've been using a basic Garmin Nav for years......I haven't looked at a map in ages, at least not for driving.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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