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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:49 AM
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Filling tank issue

Every time I try to put a certain amount of gas in the car or fill it, it will always stop randomly. I've read on some forums and think it's the evap canister. Has anyone had this issue and how did you resolve it?

Edit 2011 5.0 22k miles.

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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 06:33 AM
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First I have heard of this problem with anything past the 09's
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 06:33 AM
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I spent 7 years having to hold the pump handle upside down on my '05 to get it to fill. Folks had reported having the dealer replace the fuel tanks, only to have the issue return so I skipped that.


My '12 never has any problem.


I think the saddle design of the two fuel tanks, plus the connection tube in between can be finiky and is the culprit. I know on the '05 I found certain gas stations where it was never an issue, so maybe delivery pressure was also at play.
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 07:25 AM
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Any suggestions for what I should do ? I called my local ford and they wanted 150 to check it out and a possible $500-$600 fix -__-
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dean Martin
I spent 7 years having to hold the pump handle upside down on my '05 to get it to fill. Folks had reported having the dealer replace the fuel tanks, only to have the issue return so I skipped that. My '12 never has any problem. I think the saddle design of the two fuel tanks, plus the connection tube in between can be finiky and is the culprit. I know on the '05 I found certain gas stations where it was never an issue, so maybe delivery pressure was also at play.
Awww I remember those good old days of holding the pump upside down in my 05 as well. About the only thing that annoyed me with the car.
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:16 AM
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3 of the 8 pumps at the EXxon station i use near my house will kick off when not full on my 2011 Mustang and our (wife and i) 2014 Edge. We just avoid those 3 pumps when we get gas
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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07, 11, and 14 never had this problem.
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Old Jan 15, 2015 | 06:59 AM
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I'll try flipping the nozzle but I live in jersey hope they let me pump my own gas lol
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Old Jan 15, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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My Family use to own a Union 76 station for many years. All pump Handel's have the safety mechanism to stop from over filling. They are suppose to be set to a standard but they are not. The bigest problem is usually not getting the air out of the tank fast enough. Simply pull out the neck of the pump that is going into the tank to let more air in. Solves the problem every time.
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Old Jan 15, 2015 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jraymond394
Every time I try to put a certain amount of gas in the car or fill it, it will always stop randomly. I've read on some forums and think it's the evap canister. Has anyone had this issue and how did you resolve it?
Edit 2011 5.0 22k miles.
Originally Posted by jraymond394
Any suggestions for what I should do ? I called my local ford and they wanted 150 to check it out and a possible $500-$600 fix -__-
I understand where you’re coming from, jraymond394. These guys here provided many things to check into. If those do not work, I recommend you with your service manager, as he is in the best position to ensure a proper diagnosis, and will be able to provide available options and/or coverage for any work needed.

Also, remember most paid repairs done at a Ford Dealer come with a 24 months/unlimited miles warranty.

Deysha
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Old Jan 15, 2015 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jraymond394
Every time I try to put a certain amount of gas in the car or fill it, it will always stop randomly. I've read on some forums and think it's the evap canister. Has anyone had this issue and how did you resolve it?

Edit 2011 5.0 22k miles.
Have you filled it beyond the first click a number of times? As in 'topped off'? If so you may have filled into the overflow tube and loaded the canister. Should be easy to replace yourself or a non Dealer shop should do it for less.

On my 08 Bullitt it fills fine but I have noticed on a long trip (where I need a full tank - not 7/8ths full) first click is sometimes a gallon or two shy of full. So I let it fill for about 8 gallons, then stop it and pull the nozzle out for a few minutes to let air in to settle the fuel across both tanks, then restart the nozzle and let it auto-stop at first click.

Kind of a pain but I only do it on long trips. However, my (old) F150 clicks early most of the time. It's a Ford trait.

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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 12:57 PM
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Shouldn't the overflow canister empty back out as the tank drains?
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 01:14 PM
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Shouldn't the overflow canister empty back out as the tank drains?
As I understand it, they are loaded with some type of charcoal or filtering material to prevent raw fuel from evaporating. You know, we can't have any fumes these days. It's not just an empty canister. So the filter media gets fuel soaked/overloaded from overfills and then the whole overflow system can't breathe. Which affects filling the tank.
That's why they now say don't "top off" click after click. Stop at the first click.

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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 07:18 PM
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Sounds like you have a melted vent tube. Have you had any exhaust work done to the car? I would check around the OTA pipe and see if you can't find a burnt spot in the hose. All you need to do is cut that section out and replace it.
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown CS
Sounds like you have a melted vent tube. Have you had any exhaust work done to the car? I would check around the OTA pipe and see if you can't find a burnt spot in the hose. All you need to do is cut that section out and replace it.
This would seem unlikely to me since it appears to be a fairly common issue, and not just with one model.
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wannabe
This would seem unlikely to me since it appears to be a fairly common issue, and not just with one model.
It's not a common issue with 2011-14 stangs.
Read this
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...tank+vent+tube
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 09:43 PM
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Blown CS is correct. Vent hose is the culprit.
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Have you filled it beyond the first click a number of times? As in 'topped off'? If so you may have filled into the overflow tube and loaded the canister. Should be easy to replace yourself or a non Dealer shop should do it for less. On my 08 Bullitt it fills fine but I have noticed on a long trip (where I need a full tank - not 7/8ths full) first click is sometimes a gallon or two shy of full. So I let it fill for about 8 gallons, then stop it and pull the nozzle out for a few minutes to let air in to settle the fuel across both tanks, then restart the nozzle and let it auto-stop at first click. Kind of a pain but I only do it on long trips. However, my (old) F150 clicks early most of the time. It's a Ford trait.
Oh so you're one of THOSE OLD guys that people hate to wait behind? :-)
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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 05:04 PM
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i have exhaust work done, can someone point me in the direction to finding this vent hose?
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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 05:45 PM
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