Does the 5.0 need warming up?
#1
Bullitt Member
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Does the 5.0 need warming up?
Ever since I have owned my car i have always had to warm the car up for 1-2min. If I do not, when setting off the car will buck intermittently, once the revs drop on idle after 2 min its good. On my wifes car I can set off straight away and no issues.
Is there a problem or is it a characteristic of the coyote?
Is there a problem or is it a characteristic of the coyote?
#2
Cobra Member
I'm on my second Coyote and I'm a firm believer in warming it up no matter what air temp is outside. It is normal for it to sound like it's going
to sling a rod while it's warming up.
to sling a rod while it's warming up.
Last edited by TheReaper; 2/17/16 at 04:20 PM.
#6
Legacy TMS Member
I would agree with these gentlebeings. And I'm not saying anything in an attempt to dissuade one from doing a proper warming up to temperature, surely, because I honestly do believe it to be a good thing(tm).
However...
In my case, I just start her up, and since I backed her into the garage at night, I only let her idle a few seconds before moving her out of the garage. Exhaust gases aren't good for ya, y'know.
As I'm going to work, I... sort of... just creep out of the neighborhood until I get to the main road, not exerting too much... But I'll admit it's not a good warming up by the time I get to the main road.
And... well, when it's time to go home from work, I... sorta just start her up, idle for maybe a minute, then leave, because tired and wanna go home... but again I trundle slowly until main road. And not nearly as far as from home, although there might be some residual heat in the car...
And... well... 131000 miles later... she doesn't seem to be hurtin' in any way I can tell... drives normal all the time... so...
Yeah...
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All that being said, it's a 4.6 and not a 5.0, but how dissimilar can they be?
Yeah, I probably shouldn't have even posted, but I'm a masochist, I suppose, ready for judgement/punishment. *click*
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Edit: Mileage was wrong. Now it's not.
However...
In my case, I just start her up, and since I backed her into the garage at night, I only let her idle a few seconds before moving her out of the garage. Exhaust gases aren't good for ya, y'know.
As I'm going to work, I... sort of... just creep out of the neighborhood until I get to the main road, not exerting too much... But I'll admit it's not a good warming up by the time I get to the main road.
And... well, when it's time to go home from work, I... sorta just start her up, idle for maybe a minute, then leave, because tired and wanna go home... but again I trundle slowly until main road. And not nearly as far as from home, although there might be some residual heat in the car...
And... well... 131000 miles later... she doesn't seem to be hurtin' in any way I can tell... drives normal all the time... so...
Yeah...
---
All that being said, it's a 4.6 and not a 5.0, but how dissimilar can they be?
Yeah, I probably shouldn't have even posted, but I'm a masochist, I suppose, ready for judgement/punishment. *click*
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Edit: Mileage was wrong. Now it's not.
Last edited by houtex; 2/19/16 at 07:21 PM.
#7
Cobra R Member
Car warms up faster when you're driving it. Don't beat on it it'll be fine. I do let mine sit for 15 seconds to get the gearbox oil spread around a bit, otherwise it grinds a bit. Otherwise I keep it below 3000rpm and that's worked for every vehicle I've ever owned, including a truck I took to 300k.
#9
Cobra Member
I would agree with these gentlebeings. And I'm not saying anything in an attempt to dissuade one from doing a proper warming up to temperature, surely, because I honestly do believe it to be a good thing(tm).
However...
In my case, I just start her up, and since I backed her into the garage at night, I only let her idle a few seconds before moving her out of the garage. Exhaust gases aren't good for ya, y'know.
As I'm going to work, I... sort of... just creep out of the neighborhood until I get to the main road, not exerting too much... But I'll admit it's not a good warming up by the time I get to the main road.
And... well, when it's time to go home from work, I... sorta just start her up, idle for maybe a minute, then leave, because tired and wanna go home... but again I trundle slowly until main road. And not nearly as far as from home, although there might be some residual heat in the car...
And... well... 138000 miles later... she doesn't seem to be hurtin' in any way I can tell... drives normal all the time... so...
Yeah...
---
All that being said, it's a 4.6 and not a 5.0, but how dissimilar can they be?
Yeah, I probably shouldn't have even posted, but I'm a masochist, I suppose, ready for judgement/punishment. *click*
However...
In my case, I just start her up, and since I backed her into the garage at night, I only let her idle a few seconds before moving her out of the garage. Exhaust gases aren't good for ya, y'know.
As I'm going to work, I... sort of... just creep out of the neighborhood until I get to the main road, not exerting too much... But I'll admit it's not a good warming up by the time I get to the main road.
And... well, when it's time to go home from work, I... sorta just start her up, idle for maybe a minute, then leave, because tired and wanna go home... but again I trundle slowly until main road. And not nearly as far as from home, although there might be some residual heat in the car...
And... well... 138000 miles later... she doesn't seem to be hurtin' in any way I can tell... drives normal all the time... so...
Yeah...
---
All that being said, it's a 4.6 and not a 5.0, but how dissimilar can they be?
Yeah, I probably shouldn't have even posted, but I'm a masochist, I suppose, ready for judgement/punishment. *click*
Last edited by TheReaper; 2/17/16 at 09:10 PM.
#10
V6 Member
That's EXACTLY what I do also. Both of mine have a bit of cold piston slap (completely normal) when cold. I like the lubricants fully warmed and the piston skirts expanded before I put any driving load on the engine. It may not be required but I feel better about it, and my gears never have a cold nibble when shifting.
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#12
Bullitt Member
Ever since I have owned my car i have always had to warm the car up for 1-2min. If I do not, when setting off the car will buck intermittently, once the revs drop on idle after 2 min its good. On my wifes car I can set off straight away and no issues.
Is there a problem or is it a characteristic of the coyote?
Is there a problem or is it a characteristic of the coyote?
I will drive reasonably letting it warm up for 15 minutes before going WOT.
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you might want to look into that, other than the high idle that all modern cars have, your car shouldnt sound like "something inside is trying to get out" only warming up the car needs is, not beating on it until the coolant temp reaches near normal levels. but warming the car up before driving off is not needed, when the temps are extremely cold, let it idle a minute or so before driving off
#14
Shelby GT350 Member
I think most of you guys are doing what has been prescribed to me...mechanical empathy is the key here.
1)Start up, let it idle for a moment or two...15-30 seconds.
2)Drive as gently as possible until it's fully warm
3)Give it hell.
1)Start up, let it idle for a moment or two...15-30 seconds.
2)Drive as gently as possible until it's fully warm
3)Give it hell.
Last edited by MRGTX; 2/18/16 at 08:24 AM.
#16
Cobra R Member
Remember, the engine is getting worn whether you drive it or not. If you let it sit for 10 minutes, that's however many miles you were going to drive anyways, PLUS 10 minutes. It's more wear when you warm up, and longer periods below operating temp.
#17
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you might want to look into that, other than the high idle that all modern cars have, your car shouldnt sound like "something inside is trying to get out" only warming up the car needs is, not beating on it until the coolant temp reaches near normal levels. but warming the car up before driving off is not needed, when the temps are extremely cold, let it idle a minute or so before driving off
#18
Mach 1 Member
Once the idle drops, I'm gone. Cold mornings maybe I'll check traffic in my car, then go.
Modern cars y'all.
I do agree with the above stated about going easy on it though until normal op temps. No reason to redline a cold motor.
Modern cars y'all.
I do agree with the above stated about going easy on it though until normal op temps. No reason to redline a cold motor.
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I remember reading an article in Popular Mechanics by a researcher at the Argonne National Laboratory who was talking about fuel wash in terms of cold weather idle conditions. It isn't until the engine gets up to a certain temperature that the excess gasoline vapors actually get burnt off since the A/F ratio will become rich when it is cold. I try to wait 30 or 45 seconds and then off I go. Of course this is much different if you have forged internals though.
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I let it return to idle after start up before I move. Then I baby it up to speed for about a mile then I'm good to go.