2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

A diesel??

Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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A diesel??

They are evvverywhere in Europe. Much much more fuel efficient and have lots of potential. Might Ford opt for a diesel in the future for a Mustang to meet the MPG standards?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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UNlikely
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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A day in time will come where the combustion engine is gone. The reality is that emissions laws will demand more efficient vehicles. Moving to a diesel might be the best bet some years down the road. 2010? Maybe not. But diesels are amazing.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I live in England where fuel is nearly £5 per gallon - that's $10 dollars per gallon at current exchange rates but I'd never want a Mustang with a diesel engine.

When I get my '05 next year, it'll be a weekend toy. When I need to commute during the week, I take my Ford Puma that does nigh on 40 mpg.

Mustangs should have BIG LOUD V8s!!!!!
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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What if it was a big, loud, diesel, V8
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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if it were a Super-Duty and one that sounds like a jet taking off I'd like that !
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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LOL - er, no thanks.

Diesels have their place, and in Europe I'd say there are probably more diesels sold than petrol versions.

When a Mustang starts up, I want it to growl, then roar when it's revved. Not sound like a London taxi cab!
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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I was in Italy and that's all I saw were diesels. Okay, but seriously, what is FoMoCo gonna do when combustion engines no longer exist???? (That's if they're still in business)
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by paradigm1220
I was in Italy and that's all I saw were diesels. Okay, but seriously, what is FoMoCo gonna do when combustion engines no longer exist???? (That's if they're still in business)
Not to rain on your parade but Diesels ARE combustion engines. I belive you mean to ask what will Ford do when internal-combustion gasoline/petrol engines "no longer exist." And considering the pace of technology, I'd bet we'll see a real non-ICE engine well before diesels are predominant in NA lineups.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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if the mustang goes deisel then....hello camaro guys!

that would be kinda like ending the production of the mustang.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by future9er24
What if it was a big, loud, diesel, V8
that sounded.......kinda kinky?
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 04:12 AM
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Hopefully petrol engined cars will be around for as long as I can drive.

Jeeze, a world without "real" cars isnt worth thinking about!
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Moosetang
Not to rain on your parade but Diesels ARE combustion engines. I belive you mean to ask what will Ford do when internal-combustion gasoline/petrol engines "no longer exist." And considering the pace of technology, I'd bet we'll see a real non-ICE engine well before diesels are predominant in NA lineups.
Yeah sorry I was clear. I meant that the diesel is more a part of a transistion to alternative fuels. Cmon I know I'm slow at times, but I'm not that dumb. More and more models are gonna be offered as diesels to conserve, and one day it might be demanded by lawmakers.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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I don't even want to think about a diesel in a Mustang.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by boduke0220
if the mustang goes deisel then....hello camaro guys!

No Kiddin! Point me to the Chevy's if that happens.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Makes perfect sense, so many Stangers are so enamored with big, long-stroke V8s with massive low-end torque above all else, what could be more perfect than a diesel V8 (powerstroke?)?

Seriously, perhaps not so crazy really, look at what Audi has done with their diesel LaMans racer of late. And though diesels don't put out as much ultimate peak power as a gas motor, they do have the aforementioned prodigious low end torque which does translate to that low-end boot in the butt feel that muscle-car lovers, well, love. And that would put the Stang at the leading edge of a potential new performance avenue rather than forever living off the past glories and image more than Al Bundy.

And actual decent fuel mileage as a bit of icing on the cake, hmmmm....
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Makes perfect sense, so many Stangers are so enamored with big, long-stroke V8s with massive low-end torque above all else, what could be more perfect than a diesel V8 (powerstroke?)?

Seriously, perhaps not so crazy really, look at what Audi has done with their diesel LaMans racer of late. And though diesels don't put out as much ultimate peak power as a gas motor, they do have the aforementioned prodigious low end torque which does translate to that low-end boot in the butt feel that muscle-car lovers, well, love. And that would put the Stang at the leading edge of a potential new performance avenue rather than forever living off the past glories and image more than Al Bundy.

And actual decent fuel mileage as a bit of icing on the cake, hmmmm....
i know they can make good low end torque and everthing a gas engine can but its still a diesel! but then again im just a single minded farmer....(seriously)i tihnk i'd rather have E85
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
Hopefully petrol engined cars will be around for as long as I can drive.
Well, if you're under 25, probably not.

Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
Jeeze, a world without "real" cars isnt worth thinking about!
Better get used to it. The writing is on the wall.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 02:46 AM
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Diesel engines still produce more pollution than gasoline engines. Low-sulfur fuels are absolutely critical to having a successful diesel market in North America. Personally, I don't see a diesel Mustang ever becoming a reality. Other technologies will emerge, or the Mustang will simply die, first.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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Diesel engine technology is really advancing in leaps and bounds lately, driven especially in Europe by very high gas prices ($5+/gallon equivalent). This newer technology, combined with better quality, low-sulfur fuels just now being introduced in the US, should help with the emissions element. Modern diesels have evolved well past the rattling, smoke belching mediocre performers all too many Americans still picture them as being.

Of course, gasoline fueled motor technology isn't sitting on its hands either (direct injection, advanced turbo/super charger tech, fully variable lift valves (no more throttles), etc.), so rather than necessarily being a dire and dreary automotive future, should automotive manufacturers get in the front of this parade, they can really benefit and so would us enthusiasts with ever more efficient, clean and yet still powerful cars.

Now whether the Mustang would ever have a diesel is another question. It would certainly be an actual "Bold Move," versus the vacuous marketing drivel that phrase represents now, to introduce a hi-po diesel in the Mustang to shatter American preconceptions about diesel motors and the Mustang being merely a retro piece whose image is utterly mired in the past. Now that would be a Bold Move.
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