2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

December 2011 Mustang Sales Figures.

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by brycerichert
Does it emotionally hurt some here if one's sales are below another's? I don't get it.
Of course not.

But higher sales numbers mean more profit to Ford. Higher profits mean higher R&D budgets for the future years. We want good sales for more engineers building better cars.

Example: The Ford Mustang 2000 Cobra R 5.4L was $55,000 (if you could find one). It had 385 Hp and good brakes. The new 2013 Mustang 5.0L has 420 Hp, and it's about ~$32K (also with good brakes with the Brembo option).

Another example: The 2003-2004 Cobra was fast until you compare it with a 2013 GT500.

The Mustang Boss 302 is quick. Ford had to write a check out of their checking account to pay for these improvements (unlike GM and Dodge, who used government checking accounts).

Just saying. We like good sales numbers.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 95cobraR
Of course not.

But higher sales numbers mean more profit to Ford. Higher profits mean higher R&D budgets for the future years. We want good sales for more engineers building better cars.
It could be that there is enough profit in the current volumes to see the payout. Over the longer term, that might be better than making more and then having to discount more to get them from the dealers to consumers.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall of the finance people who work on this stuff!
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
It could be that there is enough profit in the current volumes to see the payout. Over the longer term, that might be better than making more and then having to discount more to get them from the dealers to consumers.
Hey Tony,
I agree.

We have to assume that the S197 platform was paid for in previous sales. Then the **** accountants (I am one, but in no way associated with Ford) gave the 5.0 a "green flag". New engines seem to follow platforms.

2011 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 Coyote Engine
5.0 4V TiVCT V-8
First Model Year 2011
Engine Family Modular
Code Name Coyote
Displacement 4957cc (302 ci)
Bore x Stroke 92.2 x 92.8mm (3.263 x 3.647 inch)


Horsepower
  • 412 hp @ 6,500 rpm, 91 octane
  • 402 hp @ 6,500 rpm, 87 octane
This isn't the old 4.6. The 5.0 even has:
Pistons Hypereutectic, short-skirt, flat-top w/four equal valve reliefs; moly friction-reducing coating; oil-jet cooled


The oil-jet cooling for the pistons is very high-tech to me (just to name one thing). It is good for the racing Boss302S. It may work well for a street car?

It takes sales to upgrade. Good mechanical engineers are not cheap.


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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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Not to get off topic, but the BOSS engines do not feature the oil squirters.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 06GT
Not to get off topic, but the BOSS engines do not feature the oil squirters.
Go figure. I just assumed it had the same deal?
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