2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old 10/31/12 | 03:45 PM
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From Consumer Reports

Looks like reliability is down on the V8. This is from CR:

Reliability of the V8 is below average, but the V6 version is average.

I had been contemplating looking at the V8 but wondering if i should just stay put for now.
Old 10/31/12 | 03:50 PM
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With the V8's outselling the V6's, it would make sense that there would be more complaints/repairs being made on V8's. Most likely a moog point.

Although, I have not had to take my 2011 V6 in for any service work...knocking on head....
Old 10/31/12 | 04:03 PM
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Just hitting 10,000kms, running flawless for me.

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Old 10/31/12 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucko
With the V8's outselling the V6's, it would make sense that there would be more complaints/repairs being made on V8's. Most likely a moog point.

Although, I have not had to take my 2011 V6 in for any service work...knocking on head....
I'd certainly hope Consumer Reports is able to factor in the number of units in their statistics.... so it's not moot.
Old 10/31/12 | 04:56 PM
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don't let consumer reports scare you lol
Old 10/31/12 | 05:30 PM
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If I went by everything Consumer Reports said I'd eventually put a bullet in my own head just to end the boredom.
Old 10/31/12 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
don't let consumer reports scare you lol
Truth!

Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
If I went by everything Consumer Reports said I'd eventually put a bullet in my own head just to end the boredom.
Double truth! Like those voices on pbs!
Old 10/31/12 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucko
With the V8's outselling the V6's, it would make sense that there would be more complaints/repairs being made on V8's. Most likely a moog point.

Although, I have not had to take my 2011 V6 in for any service work...knocking on head....
Where did you see that GTs outsell V6s? It's been 2/3 V6 or higher for as long as I can remember. Hell, the straight-six cars outsold the V8s in 1965.
Old 11/1/12 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kylerohde
Where did you see that GTs outsell V6s? It's been 2/3 V6 or higher for as long as I can remember. Hell, the straight-six cars outsold the V8s in 1965.
I was refering to the 2011 and up. My mistake for not actually stating this. I assumed the OP was also refering to the new 5.0.
Old 11/1/12 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucko
I was refering to the 2011 and up. My mistake for not actually stating this. I assumed the OP was also refering to the new 5.0.
I think that kylerohde's point holds... V6s are still much more common, IIRC. I'm too lazy to look up the statistics but fleet sales are 95% V6, most single customer sales are V6s...and now enthusiasts buy them too since '11+ are real performers.

I think 2/3 of Mustangs sold as V6 sounds believable.
Old 11/1/12 | 08:19 AM
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Consumer reports would have you buy foreign cars..screw that..
Old 11/1/12 | 09:35 AM
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Well, did some google snooping. Found this for 2011 alone:

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2011/0...ction-in-2011/

All in all, Ford made 68,650 Mustangs in 2011; 26,422 GT's, 37,202 V6's, and 5,026 Shelby GT500's.

Rarest option in 2011 would be the glass roof: only 4.19% of total production had them.
Most popular color: Black Kona Blue second Least popular: Yellow Blaze

And only 31.17% had manual transmissions. I guess the rental fleet where automatics

Found this for 2012 (no full counts yet):

http://mustangattitude.com/mustang/2012popbody.shtml

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Old 11/1/12 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucko
Well, did some google snooping. Found this for 2011 alone:

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2011/0...ction-in-2011/

All in all, Ford made 68,650 Mustangs in 2011; 26,422 GT's, 37,202 V6's, and 5,026 Shelby GT500's.

Rarest option in 2011 would be the glass roof: only 4.19% of total production had them.
Most popular color: Black Kona Blue second Least popular: Yellow Blaze

And only 31.17% had manual transmissions. I guess the rental fleet where automatics

Found this for 2012 (no full counts yet):

http://mustangattitude.com/mustang/2012popbody.shtml

Best part about this thread.

hehe.... kidding.
Old 11/1/12 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucko
Well, did some google snooping. Found this for 2011 alone:

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2011/0...ction-in-2011/

All in all, Ford made 68,650 Mustangs in 2011; 26,422 GT's, 37,202 V6's, and 5,026 Shelby GT500's.

Rarest option in 2011 would be the glass roof: only 4.19% of total production had them.
Most popular color: Black Kona Blue second Least popular: Yellow Blaze

And only 31.17% had manual transmissions. I guess the rental fleet where automatics

Found this for 2012 (no full counts yet):

http://mustangattitude.com/mustang/2012popbody.shtml
5100 GT500's were built in 2011
Old 11/1/12 | 03:30 PM
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Well, I would like to know the source of their data. We all know data can say anything you want it too. I have almost 26,000 miles on my '11 V8 with zero problems. This engine has never used a drop of oil, from day one. And, I believe it is running better then ever. Just checked my mpg this morning, after a run through the hills on Tuesday, and averaged 24.6 mpg for the 96 mile trip for lunch. The MT-82 also seems to be broken in and shifting is a true joy. I was thinking of trading for a '14, but I have decided to keep this one.
Old 11/1/12 | 04:42 PM
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Consumer Reports are a joke, as they relate to automobiles. Toasters and refrigerators, they're ok, but not cars. What they do is compile repair records but what they fail to do, unlike, say, Road and Track and others, is take demographics into consideration. For example, they used to list the Ford Crown Victoria V-8 engine as excellent years ago, but the Ford Mustang V-8 engine was listed as prone to problems and not reliable. The thing is, it was the exact same engine. So how can that be? Obviously, grampa was the typical Crown Vic driver while the typical Mustang driver was much younger and much harder on the vehicle. Of course, they never mentioned that.
A lot of people don't know that Consumer Reports didn't even have their own test facilities for many years and only recently got their own. Repair records of parts shipments to dealers don't tell the whole story. If you want to learn about cars, read the leading periodicals. The idea that the Car And Driver type magazines are beholden to manufacturers to temper their criticism, lest they lose advertising dollars, is not true. I don't know how many times I've seen an ad for a particular vehicle, and two pages later there's an article tearing that same vehicle to shreds. Manufacturers have to advertise no matter how many bad reviews they may get. Consumer Reports claim to be pure as the driven snow because they don't accept advertising dollars but the truth is they are not worth the paper they're printed on.
Old 11/2/12 | 05:50 AM
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Wasn't there an initial problem with one of the cylinders (#8?!?) that was causing alot of the V8's to blow up or something (or was that the 2010 modeil)?!? Maybe the attention that issue got is skewing the reliability??
Old 11/2/12 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MADSCOTSMAN
Wasn't there an initial problem with one of the cylinders (#8?!?) that was causing alot of the V8's to blow up or something (or was that the 2010 modeil)?!? Maybe the attention that issue got is skewing the reliability??
Oh boy...It looks like you weren't around a year or so back when all that went down.

It was the 5.0...and while there are a couple of questionable cases where people claimed this MIGHT have happened on stock engines, most seem to think that this was related to custom tunes monkeying with knock sensor settings and fuel mixtures.

Regardless, you don't hear about it anymore...or do we? I haven't heard of any cases of this for quite a while.
Old 11/2/12 | 02:08 PM
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Consumer Reports are a joke, as they relate to automobiles. Toasters and refrigerators, they're ok, but not cars.
Don't trust them on refrigerators either. I used to really take into consideration the information provided by this publication until the refrigerator they recommended broke shortly after the warranty expired. We moved not long after that and our new house has a fantastic refrigerator, not recommended by CR.

If you want a car they highly recommend stick to a Honda or a Toyota. I went that route for the last 10 years, but it wasn't nearly as much fun. Buy a car that you will enjoy whether it is highly rated or not. Life is short.
Old 11/2/12 | 10:45 PM
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If I went by everything Consumer Reports said I'd eventually put a bullet in my own head just to end the boredom.
Sorry, but you may not. I don't recall CR ever rating guns and ammo. You'd be sitting there all bored and forlorn, but intensely anguished because CR never told you which would be the most reliable weapon to use for that purpose. And you DO NOT want to narf that up.

All kidding aside, I have had a subscription to CR off/on for years, but take their reviews with appropriate skepticism. They can offer good insight into products that otherwise I have no ability to test. But vehicles definitely are not definitive, and computers . . . forgetaboutit. I've had decent results using the info to augment purchasing decisions about appliances - especially window air conditioners and such.



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