Car and Driver: Best Handling cars for under $40K
There's MUCH more to handling than braking #s, skid pad #s, and lap times. Most notably steering wheel feedback, weight, and precision. In general, heavier cars are much more difficult to get proper feedback through the wheel, hence the advantage of the Miata. Seriously drive one back to back one day with your mustang. I owned a 2007 GT and 2010 Miata for a while, and I love them both for very different reasons!
Not my cup o tea though. Don't see myself ever driving one but who knows.
There's MUCH more to handling than braking #s, skid pad #s, and lap times. Most notably steering wheel feedback, weight, and precision. In general, heavier cars are much more difficult to get proper feedback through the wheel, hence the advantage of the Miata. Seriously drive one back to back one day with your mustang. I owned a 2007 GT and 2010 Miata for a while, and I love them both for very different reasons!
There's no argument, just talking about the difference between what makes a car a great drivers car, vs what makes the car fastest from point A to point B.
Good reading on the subject here:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...t_drivers_car/
Notice that the cars with the fastest lap time aren't necessarily the cars that place high in the list. There's a difference between the capabilities of a car, and whether the car offers the necessary confidence and feedback necessary for the average non-professional driver to reach those capabilities. We can sit around all day and talk about the lap times of a 2011 Brembo 5.0 vs a M3, and how they run the same lap time when driven by a professional, but that doesn't mean the average driver can get anywhere close to that.
Very true ^
I owned an RX8 for 4 years before I bought my '11 GT, and it handled like a dream. Even though the Mustang is faster, the RX8's feel & steering wheel feedback inspired so much more confidence that it allowed me to drive the car faster easier than the Mustang.
The mustang is a faster car, but not nearly as easy to throw into a corner as the Mazda.
I owned an RX8 for 4 years before I bought my '11 GT, and it handled like a dream. Even though the Mustang is faster, the RX8's feel & steering wheel feedback inspired so much more confidence that it allowed me to drive the car faster easier than the Mustang.
The mustang is a faster car, but not nearly as easy to throw into a corner as the Mazda.
Last edited by Musker; Sep 23, 2011 at 04:05 PM.
"Sorry Honey, you can't ride with me today, you'll throw the alignment off and ruin the camber!"

You know, the 3750-lb. 1999 BMW 540 6MT I once owned also had a spec requirement for specific weights to be placed in the car prior to doing an alignment; something like 100 lb in each front seat & 150 in the back seat or something like that. The dealer had these specific "alignment weights". When I had the local Firestone shop do my alignment ("Weights?!? We don't need no stinking weights!") my tires wore out on the inside 3 months later. When I had the dealer do the alignment (per spec of course) all was well.
Last edited by Double-EDad; Sep 23, 2011 at 05:36 PM.
As a long-time mustang owner just offering an opinion, the car that gets to the finish line fastest isn't always the one that's most fun to drive.
There's no argument, just talking about the difference between what makes a car a great drivers car, vs what makes the car fastest from point A to point B.
Good reading on the subject here:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...t_drivers_car/
Notice that the cars with the fastest lap time aren't necessarily the cars that place high in the list. There's a difference between the capabilities of a car, and whether the car offers the necessary confidence and feedback necessary for the average non-professional driver to reach those capabilities. We can sit around all day and talk about the lap times of a 2011 Brembo 5.0 vs a M3, and how they run the same lap time when driven by a professional, but that doesn't mean the average driver can get anywhere close to that.
There's no argument, just talking about the difference between what makes a car a great drivers car, vs what makes the car fastest from point A to point B.
Good reading on the subject here:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...t_drivers_car/
Notice that the cars with the fastest lap time aren't necessarily the cars that place high in the list. There's a difference between the capabilities of a car, and whether the car offers the necessary confidence and feedback necessary for the average non-professional driver to reach those capabilities. We can sit around all day and talk about the lap times of a 2011 Brembo 5.0 vs a M3, and how they run the same lap time when driven by a professional, but that doesn't mean the average driver can get anywhere close to that.
Last edited by J Tennu; Sep 23, 2011 at 06:23 PM.
Originally Posted by Double-EDad
LOL it IS a tight car, and supposedly popular with homos, but I like them (Miatas that is).
At one time I owned 3 of the vehicles on the "Top 10 Favorite Lesbian Vehicles":
Jeep Wrangler
Ford F150
Honda Element (still my DD)
I sold the jeep & truck and bought my Mustang to get back in touch with my manly side.
But I wouldnt mind having Miata for a fun car.
I love the handling of my mustangs....but....they cant touch the SVT Focus I had a few years back. Man, I could toss that thing into **** near any corner at speed and have NOTHING to worry about.
Rearwheel drive is where its at....but that little focus really stuck in the corners
Rearwheel drive is where its at....but that little focus really stuck in the corners
I currently own the '11 GT and an '02 Miata! 
Still, I enjoy reading articles like this to get other's opinions and experiences with other cars. That's what helped me decide on my purchase of both of these cars!
Oh, when I had the suspension upgraded on my 2-ton, awd Charger, the shop insisted on doing the alignment with me in the car.

Still, I enjoy reading articles like this to get other's opinions and experiences with other cars. That's what helped me decide on my purchase of both of these cars!
Oh, when I had the suspension upgraded on my 2-ton, awd Charger, the shop insisted on doing the alignment with me in the car.
Miatas are fabulous driving cars and always have been - perfect weight distribution, lightweight, bulletproof, nicely weighted steering and a wonderfully communicative chassis. Drive one sometime without any bias and you'll see. When it comes to racing, there's no cheaper, better way to get into wheel-to-wheel road racing than Spec Miata either - that series is a blast.
All that being said, I'm still happy the Mustang did as well as it did in this competition, and you guys should too. It's not like the Camaro came out ahead...
Miata + small block Chevy = insanity.
Seriously, they handle better than anything you'd expect. They are under powered, but the NB (2nd gen) Miata with a turbo or supercharger on it is an awesome track vehicle. Not to mention parts are cheap and plentiful, and you see why they do so well.
Seriously, they handle better than anything you'd expect. They are under powered, but the NB (2nd gen) Miata with a turbo or supercharger on it is an awesome track vehicle. Not to mention parts are cheap and plentiful, and you see why they do so well.
Miata + small block Chevy = insanity.
Seriously, they handle better than anything you'd expect. They are under powered, but the NB (2nd gen) Miata with a turbo or supercharger on it is an awesome track vehicle. Not to mention parts are cheap and plentiful, and you see why they do so well.
Seriously, they handle better than anything you'd expect. They are under powered, but the NB (2nd gen) Miata with a turbo or supercharger on it is an awesome track vehicle. Not to mention parts are cheap and plentiful, and you see why they do so well.
Just happy the Mustang finds itself in good company despite the ancient rear axle and the Camaro is no where near the Mustang in the handling department until they copy the BOSS 302 - *cough* - I mean, make a proper Z28.
Miata + small block Chevy = insanity.
Seriously, they handle better than anything you'd expect. They are under powered, but the NB (2nd gen) Miata with a turbo or supercharger on it is an awesome track vehicle. Not to mention parts are cheap and plentiful, and you see why they do so well.
Seriously, they handle better than anything you'd expect. They are under powered, but the NB (2nd gen) Miata with a turbo or supercharger on it is an awesome track vehicle. Not to mention parts are cheap and plentiful, and you see why they do so well.
Originally Posted by jedikd
There's MUCH more to handling than braking #s, skid pad #s, and lap times. Most notably steering wheel feedback, weight, and precision.
Last edited by GT1000; Sep 25, 2011 at 04:37 PM.





