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Old 7/29/10 | 12:08 PM
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Not irritating rattles just more normal sounds that I had in the M3. Stock I thought the Mustang was very quiet.

You should shoot me a pm. It is much easier to go over those things in a call. If you want I would be more than happy to talk to you about the differences.

It really has transformed the whole experience for me. And it still has a very nice ride.
Shotz - thanks for your magnanimous offer! Will shoot you a mssg or text this weekend. The money for the handling package is definitely a problem for me, but it would be less than trading in my vert apparently.
Old 7/29/10 | 12:10 PM
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Shotzy, I looked through your posts but didn't see any pics. Mind posting some of your car after the FRPP Handling Pack installed?
Sure I only have 2 bad cell phone pics but here they are.
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Old 7/29/10 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mach1mania
Actually, I take that back. When I went out to video tape it, It was easier to see, With one person flipping visor upward and other viewing ( Me) ..I did notice what he mentioned, The header does shudder///..........Sorry........... But I still like my Convert.. Its a daily driver anyways not a track or autocross car and never will be, It replaced my wifes 2008 Focus, so shes more than happy..
I believe you guys but I'm shocked Ford would let that design out the door. . .

And I'm glad I wasn't dreaming about the 2005's praise... thanks to Eric who verified it since I was too lazy.
Old 7/29/10 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mach1mania
Actually, I take that back. When I went out to video tape it, It was easier to see, With one person flipping visor upward and other viewing ( Me) ..I did notice what he mentioned, The header does shudder///..........Sorry........... But I still like my Convert.. Its a daily driver anyways not a track or autocross car and never will be, It replaced my wifes 2008 Focus, so shes more than happy..
I did not mean to insult your car! Just something we noticed that made us wait on the coupe. Glad we did as it's my favorite car ever. And thats saying a lot.
Old 7/29/10 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Double-EDad
Shotz - thanks for your magnanimous offer! Will shoot you a mssg or text this weekend. The money for the handling package is definitely a problem for me, but it would be less than trading in my vert apparently.
Sounds good
Old 7/29/10 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mach1mania
Actually, I take that back. When I went out to video tape it, It was easier to see, With one person flipping visor upward and other viewing ( Me) ..I did notice what he mentioned, The header does shudder///..........Sorry........... But I still like my Convert.. Its a daily driver anyways not a track or autocross car and never will be, It replaced my wifes 2008 Focus, so shes more than happy..
Originally Posted by corvettedreamin
I believe you guys but I'm shocked Ford would let that design out the door. . .

And I'm glad I wasn't dreaming about the 2005's praise... thanks to Eric who verified it since I was too lazy.
I recall that praise for 2005 as well. I drove a 2007 convertable a few years ago and did see cowl shake which suprised me. I did not see it on the 2011. I assumed this was because of the suspension. It was very floaty and absorbed even decent bumps.
Old 7/29/10 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by falhulk
I did not mean to insult your car! Just something we noticed that made us wait on the coupe. Glad we did as it's my favorite car ever. And thats saying a lot.
You didnt insult, No worry, I still got my Mach1..... Now you got my wife bugging me about the CDC rollbar.. HaHa
Old 7/29/10 | 12:52 PM
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Don't all convertibles have the same problem especially compared to their coupe versions? The exception of course are probably the very expensive/high-performance convertibles because hey have big budgets to attack the problems.
Old 7/29/10 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by newpony
Don't all convertibles have the same problem especially compared to their coupe versions? The exception of course are probably the very expensive/high-performance convertibles because hey have big budgets to attack the problems.
The two big obstacles the mustang faces (in my opinion) from a convertible design standpoint are:
1) The fact it’s a 4 seater – it extends the distance where the floorboard is otherwise unsupported (between base of firewall and rear seatback bulkhead), which is any convertible’s Achilles heel.
2) The fact it’s relatively cheap (at 41,075 MSRP I don’t really think my car is cheap in an absolute sense) – Gotta go with regular steel instead of unobtanium or carbon fiber for enhancing the stiffness of the aforementioned floorboard area, meaning weight is more of an enemy. Sure Ford could make it stiffer but then we’d be talking about something like a 500-lb weight penalty. As you pointed out, the bigger the budget and pricetag, the more use of exotic materials and design optimization.

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Old 7/29/10 | 05:33 PM
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good thing shotzy is here and described a pretty affordable solution.

My other question is if the vert is a daily driver is there any fear of lightning? Since apparently your not protected in a convertible from lightning even with top up. I mean its not like i've really ever heard of people in convertibles being struck by lightning but rather be safe than sorry
Old 7/29/10 | 05:46 PM
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I think you should worry more about rollover safety than lightning striking your vehicle
Old 7/29/10 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by slystallion26
good thing shotzy is here and described a pretty affordable solution.

My other question is if the vert is a daily driver is there any fear of lightning? Since apparently your not protected in a convertible from lightning even with top up. I mean its not like i've really ever heard of people in convertibles being struck by lightning but rather be safe than sorry

This is almost signature worthy.
Old 7/29/10 | 06:07 PM
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As with a car with a top, you would be insulated from ground by the tires. Lightning is not a concern.
Old 7/29/10 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by falhulk
As with a car with a top, you would be insulated from ground by the tires. Lightning is not a concern.
Sorry, no, that's a common misconception. Car occupants are relatively safe from lightning not because the tires insulate from ground but rather because the body provides a path to ground around the occupants (rather than through them). That lightning bolt just arced across a huge air gap from the cloud to your car... do you think the few inches between the rocker panels and the ground would stop it (regardless of tires)?

My 67 coupe was struck by lightning (with me in it) many, many years ago. The battery exploded, the (AM) radio was fried, the paint was burned, and the engine stalled but otherwise it survived. I needed to change my pants but I survived as well. I suspect that a more modern computerized car would have suffered much more damage.

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Old 7/29/10 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Driver72
and tears it apart on structural rigidity.

They also stated it gets Goodyear Supercar F1 tires instead of the P Zero's but felt all these are probably to help hide (or reduce) the wiggle and cowl shake from the car.
Mine has the P Zero's.
Old 7/29/10 | 08:29 PM
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I don't understand all the hating on the verts....I loved my 07 vert and I absolutely love my 10 vert. My car handles and performs excelllent, and the 10 is heads above the 07 in stiffness. I dont notice any cowl shake at all. you give up some performance over the coupe, but the relaxing feeling I get when the weather is nice, and I am cruising with the top down, I wouldn't trade it...
Old 7/29/10 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by magnatic
Mine has the P Zero's.
They're talking about the Brembo Package. On the vert it has GY Eagle F1s instead of the PZeros.
Old 7/29/10 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kevworthy
I don't understand all the hating on the verts....I loved my 07 vert and I absolutely love my 10 vert. My car handles and performs excelllent, and the 10 is heads above the 07 in stiffness. I dont notice any cowl shake at all. you give up some performance over the coupe, but the relaxing feeling I get when the weather is nice, and I am cruising with the top down, I wouldn't trade it...
Old 7/30/10 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by magnatic
Mine has the P Zero's.
Only the Convertible Brembo package has the goodyears. They were comparing Brembo pkg tires between coupe and vert.

Edit: Sorry, this got answered above already.
Old 7/30/10 | 07:11 AM
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I love my vert, of course it doesn't have the stiffness of the coupe, but I don't think the ride and the handling of the car is bad at all.


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