BLOWN ENGINE NOT COVERED BY FORD
BLOWN ENGINE NOT COVERED BY FORD
I saw this on another site. Guy had a mustang, cylinder #8 dumped and Ford basically said, Clearly you were using NOS, because this wouldn't have happened if you weren't..... so we aren't going to cover it!
I was thinking we could all get involved to the extent that we could all write Ford a note letting them know that we were watching this event unfold. It could happen to any of us and the 5.0 is a new motor. I can't help to think what if it was me?
I've very interested in how this plays out, we all should be.
http://forums.corral.net/forums/show...1#post10139834
I was thinking we could all get involved to the extent that we could all write Ford a note letting them know that we were watching this event unfold. It could happen to any of us and the 5.0 is a new motor. I can't help to think what if it was me?
I've very interested in how this plays out, we all should be.
http://forums.corral.net/forums/show...1#post10139834
Last edited by eric n; Oct 21, 2010 at 05:38 PM.
I'm not gonna go jumping down Ford's back just because of hearing this story.
A) We have no facts other than his testimony
B) Kinda fishy that he's got only like 15 posts
C) This is the internet. Believe nothing
So while this sounds like a heart wrenching story, I don't think I'm biting....
A) We have no facts other than his testimony
B) Kinda fishy that he's got only like 15 posts
C) This is the internet. Believe nothing
So while this sounds like a heart wrenching story, I don't think I'm biting....
I'm not gonna go jumping down Ford's back just because of hearing this story.
A) We have no facts other than his testimony
B) Kinda fishy that he's got only like 15 posts
C) This is the internet. Believe nothing
So while this sounds like a heart wrenching story, I don't think I'm biting....
A) We have no facts other than his testimony
B) Kinda fishy that he's got only like 15 posts
C) This is the internet. Believe nothing
So while this sounds like a heart wrenching story, I don't think I'm biting....
+11111 i support NOT getting in this crap. There is no proof of any of this. Internet FTL...
Blown up 2011 5.0 engine, not coverd by Ford
They said that the piston has two broken ring lands caused by high cyl pressure
and stated the high cyl pressure chould be caused by engine over speed with a modded strategy and or the use of nitrous.....
They said that the piston has two broken ring lands caused by high cyl pressure
and stated the high cyl pressure chould be caused by engine over speed with a modded strategy and or the use of nitrous.....
Posted by RazorbackMustang
I hate to hear of your mishap with the engine. Stay on top of them and follow fmyth's advice.
However, how did it FORCE you into 2nd? Were you driving it hard and doing some WOT shifts? I could see where a missed shift from 4th to 2nd could cause an engine overspeed. Simple physics there that a rev limiter would not be able to overcome.
I hate to hear of your mishap with the engine. Stay on top of them and follow fmyth's advice.
However, how did it FORCE you into 2nd? Were you driving it hard and doing some WOT shifts? I could see where a missed shift from 4th to 2nd could cause an engine overspeed. Simple physics there that a rev limiter would not be able to overcome.
Edit: ^ OAC_Sparky, just what I was typing.
The tranny FORCED him to misshift on the 3rd to 4th shift and instead went into 2nd gear. Pretty sure if that happens in any car the engine isn't going to be very happy about it. No rev limiter is going to save that either. The whole FORCED to shift into the wrong gear seems pretty fishy.
The tranny FORCED him to misshift on the 3rd to 4th shift and instead went into 2nd gear. Pretty sure if that happens in any car the engine isn't going to be very happy about it. No rev limiter is going to save that either. The whole FORCED to shift into the wrong gear seems pretty fishy.
Last edited by Stangpilot007; Oct 21, 2010 at 06:05 PM.
Yep...*******.
He screwed up. He is at WOT to pass on the freeway, and in his hurry he shifted into 2nd on accident. The sudden shift hit the rev limiter hard and overpowered it, sent the motor to 8,000+ and it crapped on him.
Bruised egos are quick to blame someone else for their screw up. My guess is he knows he screwed the pooch and is now scrambling to cover up his tracks like a cat trying to hide a turd on a marble floor.
He screwed up. He is at WOT to pass on the freeway, and in his hurry he shifted into 2nd on accident. The sudden shift hit the rev limiter hard and overpowered it, sent the motor to 8,000+ and it crapped on him.
Bruised egos are quick to blame someone else for their screw up. My guess is he knows he screwed the pooch and is now scrambling to cover up his tracks like a cat trying to hide a turd on a marble floor.
Edit: ^ OAC_Sparky, just what I was typing.
The tranny FORCED him to misshift on the 3rd to 4th shift and instead went into 2nd gear. Pretty sure if that happens in any car the engine isn't going to be very happy about it. No rev limiter is going to save that either. The whole FORCED to shift into the wrong gear seems pretty fishy.
The tranny FORCED him to misshift on the 3rd to 4th shift and instead went into 2nd gear. Pretty sure if that happens in any car the engine isn't going to be very happy about it. No rev limiter is going to save that either. The whole FORCED to shift into the wrong gear seems pretty fishy.
What's funny is, if anything the tranny in the 5.0 forces you to shift into 4th, not 2nd.
Last edited by factory fast; Oct 21, 2010 at 06:27 PM.
That said, engine overspeed sets a code in the PCM, not sure if in the Mustang it resets over time or not.
Could the off road x pipe cause it to run lean and burn a piston? You would think that Ford would say if you put an off road pipe on it than you are racing and it voids the warranty?
I hope this is the last one we hear about.
TED
I hope this is the last one we hear about.
TED
Several of you have stated that you have doubt of the veracity of the thread starters story. I get that completely. That is why in my initial post I didn't recommend, "jump down ford's back" or even take a side. Just let them know that we as a community are watching and are hopeful that once the truth is know that fairness wins out.
I've had two check engine lights both of which indicated an engine backfire. This is with no performance mods and no track time. I would hate for something to go wrong and have ford just decide that clearly I must have done something just cuz!
I have chosen not to do a tune, intake, exhaust... anything, because I'm worried that there might be some sort of intrinsic weakness and that minor mods might be used as a scapegoat for this weakness. So I would hope that Ford is doing the right thing and will investigate the matter objectively and fairly.
I've had two check engine lights both of which indicated an engine backfire. This is with no performance mods and no track time. I would hate for something to go wrong and have ford just decide that clearly I must have done something just cuz!
I have chosen not to do a tune, intake, exhaust... anything, because I'm worried that there might be some sort of intrinsic weakness and that minor mods might be used as a scapegoat for this weakness. So I would hope that Ford is doing the right thing and will investigate the matter objectively and fairly.
Several of you have stated that you have doubt of the veracity of the thread starters story. I get that completely. That is why in my initial post I didn't recommend, "jump down ford's back" or even take a side. Just let them know that we as a community are watching and are hopeful that once the truth is know that fairness wins out.
I've had two check engine lights both of which indicated an engine backfire. This is with no performance mods and no track time. I would hate for something to go wrong and have ford just decide that clearly I must have done something just cuz!
I have chosen not to do a tune, intake, exhaust... anything, because I'm worried that there might be some sort of intrinsic weakness and that minor mods might be used as a scapegoat for this weakness. So I would hope that Ford is doing the right thing and will investigate the matter objectively and fairly.
I've had two check engine lights both of which indicated an engine backfire. This is with no performance mods and no track time. I would hate for something to go wrong and have ford just decide that clearly I must have done something just cuz!
I have chosen not to do a tune, intake, exhaust... anything, because I'm worried that there might be some sort of intrinsic weakness and that minor mods might be used as a scapegoat for this weakness. So I would hope that Ford is doing the right thing and will investigate the matter objectively and fairly.
Personally, I have gone through the process; my '05 Focus ST developed a slight noticeable tick at 125,000km (78000mi) while still under ESP. I religiously maintain my vehicle, only run full synthetic oil that I change every 8000km (5000mi) but by the same token drive it very hard. After examining the engine they determined that it was a spun rod bearing, and wanted to do a teardown and warned me that if it was found to be an oil starvation or mod related problem that I would be responsible for the work. The only mod I had on the engine was a short ram intake.
After providing a detailed maintenance record, and after teardown (I witnessed the disassembled engine -- it was clean enough to eat off of inside), they replaced it with a brand new engine. Cost: $100, the deductible on the ESP.
The point that I'm trying to make is that Ford is thorough in its investigation -- it has to be because they can't go around replacing engines abused by customers. But by the same token they also don't go around denying legitimate claims either.
So let them know "you are watching" all you like, just bear in mind that before you pass judgment that either way you are still only going to get one side of the story.
Last edited by OAC_Sparky; Oct 22, 2010 at 12:38 AM.




