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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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Anyone attempt Brembos on a V6 yet?

So I am wondering about how or if it's possible to add the Brembo brakes or any similar, to the V6. Reson being that with the economy and fuel prices, it makes sense that one could build a souped up V6 this day in age that is a real performer. Look at the G37/370Z. The new V6 has a lot of potential as a car, and even more after some money has been put into it. And still get good to great gas mileage. Hate to say it but filling up the Civic has really got me thinking about my future as a possible GT/BOSS owner. I am really enjoying putting my foot into the car, and still getting 30.5 mpg. While the GT does some amazing things with a V8, it is impossible not to drive a car like that docile enough on a daily basis to even break the 26 mpg mark I am sure. Granted I am sure the car could potentially go 28/29 mpg if driven very very well.

So, from another post I have made, some ideas:
... I want to know if anyone has tried swapping the V6 brakes out with the Brembo set. I think that with fuel concerns, who knows, maybe I have grown an interest in building a supercharged V6 with FRPP suspension and Brembo brakes. Just not sure it's something that can be added. I only assume that since the V6 PP has last years GT brakes up front that the Brembos can be added. I think it would be one hell of a sleeper! Just gotta do away with the V6 front fascia and grille.

Just an idea, anyone have any similar thought, ideas, projects in the work or done on this?
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Why wouldn't you be able to?

It'll be a waste tho. Brembo's don't allow you to stop any better than stock (it's a 3% improvement) 60-0 brembo 105 ft. normal brakes is a 108ft. They will however have better resistance to fade and a higher tolerance for abuse made for tracking.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/bremb...oModClar=Coupe

So you'll save say $5 at the pump each time to put 2500-35000 brakes on, not to mention SC and suspension...

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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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Get a V6 PP car, it stops better than a brembo GT as it comes from the factory.

If you're bent on the brembos you can pick up a take-off set from a GT500 for anywhere from $600-$1000, just make sure you get the caliper mounts and backing plates to go with them.

There is also the Baer EradiSpeed Plus-2 14" rotor kit that uses the stock calipers. The greater swept area of the larger rotors makes for better stopping power.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Automagically
...who knows, maybe I have grown an interest in building a supercharged V6 with FRPP suspension and Brembo brakes.
It'd be a good project, just be aware that once you go FI you'll be forced to run premium, wouldn't save much mileage over the NA 5.0 and no warranty.

The V6 is a great performer and gets great mileage, though you could order the GT with the 3.31 (man) or 3.15 (auto) and take it easy and get ok mileage. It just takes self-dicipline ...
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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Just remember you will have to buy the Shelby or Brembo GT wheels in order to fit the larger brakes. Or other suitable after-market wheels. Then it stops being a "sleeper". Also if you have the mini-spare tire, you will have to do the double change if you flat on the front and risk damage to the diff with the small tire on the rear. And as the others have said, they won't stop you any better on the street than stock.

If you wish to add any after-market suspension pieces, nobody has proper bits for the 2011 yet. You will have to buy 2010 strut mounts for instance, in order to mount new front struts. However, this is the way I would go with the V6. Forget the Brembos. You could have a great handling car with 300 HP. What's not to like?

Cheers.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Well this post is fishy for a few reasons......first you say civic yet your tag says accord. Second, you say you enjoy putting your foot into a civic??? WTF? If gas price is really that much of a concern to you then how could you justify the price diffrence between the brembo GT and the V6 to begin with????
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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I think it would be an okay idea just for the looks alone.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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I want a feather weight V6 with ecoboost and brembos. A 2800 lb car would be great with those options
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
I want a feather weight V6 with ecoboost and brembos. A 2800 lb car would be great with those options
..+1
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
I want a feather weight V6 with ecoboost and brembos. A 2800 lb car would be great with those options
You'd have a hard time pulling that much weight out of the car.

And the ecoboost motor will only add weight over the non-turbo motor.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
You'd have a hard time pulling that much weight out of the car.

And the ecoboost motor will only add weight over the non-turbo motor.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OAC_Sparky
It'd be a good project, just be aware that once you go FI you'll be forced to run premium, wouldn't save much mileage over the NA 5.0 and no warranty.

The V6 is a great performer and gets great mileage, though you could order the GT with the 3.31 (man) or 3.15 (auto) and take it easy and get ok mileage. It just takes self-dicipline ...
Thought about that. You are correct, at some point the cost benefit certainly doesn't really apply. Although the GT still takes premium. I guess if you want to, you can run 87.


Originally Posted by nemosgt
Just remember you will have to buy the Shelby or Brembo GT wheels in order to fit the larger brakes. Or other suitable after-market wheels. Then it stops being a "sleeper". Also if you have the mini-spare tire, you will have to do the double change if you flat on the front and risk damage to the diff with the small tire on the rear. And as the others have said, they won't stop you any better on the street than stock.

If you wish to add any after-market suspension pieces, nobody has proper bits for the 2011 yet. You will have to buy 2010 strut mounts for instance, in order to mount new front struts. However, this is the way I would go with the V6. Forget the Brembos. You could have a great handling car with 300 HP. What's not to like?

Cheers.
Thought about this too. Car doesn't have to be a complete sleeper as the stock V6 wheels are not the most attractive, or wide enough.

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Well this post is fishy for a few reasons......first you say civic yet your tag says accord. Second, you say you enjoy putting your foot into a civic??? WTF? If gas price is really that much of a concern to you then how could you justify the price diffrence between the brembo GT and the V6 to begin with????
Yep, got myself into an inexpensive 08 Civic Si. Haven't changed the avatar notes. Cause god knows I live to please you. I never compared the brembo Gt to the V6. The question was just a stand alone, hey, does anyone have any thoughts on upgrading the V6's brakes, i.e. Steeda QS6? You took this way too literally. If I were serious, I'd have asked who, how, when, why, how much, how can I, what's the best method? This was much more of an entertaining question I had rolling around in my head. BTW shy of 200Hp in a vehicle that weighs a whopping 2700 lbs at 7800 RPM makes for one hell of a decent go-kart. If you haven't even tried an Si, then don't complain. If so, your just pointing fingers. People most often mock the things they fear because they don't understand. I've seen it first hand. I'm no longer talking about cars if you haven't been following. Back on the subject, no, I'm done here.


Originally Posted by Flagstang
I want a feather weight V6 with ecoboost and brembos. A 2800 lb car would be great with those options
I think this would be killer and a lot of fun!


All in all, I was just wanting to get people's opinions. I feel like I've joined the special forces trying to reach out to the oppressed and brain washed. Most of you looked at it as an interesting idea. That's all I wanted. Just some ideas. I appreciated all the replies even if I didn't necessarily agree with some. You all bring up good points. Just like any project ideas, they are a. ideas, and b. mostly to see if it's possible and worthwhile. This would be worthwhile only given it were a project. Seems as though street-ability is very negligible and really only warrants the upgrade to the GT. Hopefully some day I can get the BOSS I want. Otherwise, I'd like to park a GT in my garage. Probably keep driving the Si as it gets about 500 miles a week on it.

Have fun guys, and smile!
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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But why Brembo's? Are you going to track the car? Brembo's for the street is just brand hype for braggin' rights about nothin'.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
But why Brembo's? Are you going to track the car? Brembo's for the street is just brand hype for braggin' rights about nothin'.
I half way agree. I think brakes feel a bit better. I think with a great set of pads the stocks are pretty friggin equal. Either way, the Brembo brakes feel great on the GT's and have a decent security policy for stopping the car. Either way, I checked out an M3 in my parking garage today, sure enough, gigantic, floating calipers. Just has vented/drilled rotors. Although huge rotors, but nothing special.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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I wish you could get the Brembo Package on the V6. Namely because 12.8" rotors look tiny in 19" wheels. I want them filled up with fat calipers and slotted rotors. That is all.
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
I wish you could get the Brembo Package on the V6. Namely because 12.8" rotors look tiny in 19" wheels. I want them filled up with fat calipers and slotted rotors. That is all.
The EradiSpeed 14" rotor kit is drilled and slotted and way less $$$ than brembos and lighter.
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 12:58 AM
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Yeah and I'd consider that kit too. But I love the Brembo Pkg wheels! And I like the look of the Brembo 4-pot calipers, even if they're heavier...
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 05:04 AM
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For me since I'm getting the performance pack I'm thinking the only brake upgrades would be slotted cryo treated rotors&stainless brake lines maybe a better brake fluid to?
Man I can't wait I went by the dealer yesterday to sign a buyers order to process my rebate before it expired and while there I found out the deal was even cheaper then I remembered so basically i'm getting the performance package brand new stang for only $2100 and some change over what I owe on the current 2011*still hoping that the rebates will get better after the 7'th so I can save some more $
Not only that but my car is being built this week they started on the 1'st and its scheduled to leave quality control on the 7'th to be shipped so I may be getting it even sooner then the 18'th

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