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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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i went from 391 bone stock to 415 with only a tune and then to 431 with a Steeda CAI and a retune for that CAI
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by eric n
I'm pretty impressed with the ease/lack of expense that is involved in getting 400 ponies to the rear.

Look at the new BOSS... 440 hp. 455 at the crank x .88 (representing 12% loss) equals right at 400. But on the boss they have worked the heads and created a new intake as well as tuning and other things for 440..... WTF???
I thought the same thing after seeing the list of changes made to Boss motor. But after thinking about it, and hearing about the "red key", I'm confident that motor is going to respond as good, or better, than the current 5.0 to mods.

We'll just have to wait and see.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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Power mods for me will be:

-Corsa XO-pipe & axle back (~10hp, not verified)
-Steeda CAI
-Livernois tune

I'm aiming for 435-440rwhp with that. Identical to Shaun's set up, just with a different exhaust.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Power mods for me will be:

-Corsa XO-pipe & axle back (~10hp, not verified)
-Steeda CAI
-Livernois tune

I'm aiming for 435-440rwhp with that. Identical to Shaun's set up, just with a different exhaust.
Shaun's car seems to be a bit of a freak. We've done a lot of these cars now and his car makes 15 RWHP or so more than any other we've seen with the same mods.

Our 2011 auto makes 441 RWHP.

It really needs a set of cams to get the full power out of the current mods. There is no weight reduction other than removing the spare tire and jack and of course the wheels/tires. The car weighed 3,680 lbs.

Mods are:

Livernois Motorsports 12:1 Pistons
Livernois Motorsports Stage 1 CNC Heads
FRPP Manifold
Stainless Works Headers, Catted Mid-Pipe, and Catback
CAI
4.10 Ring & Pinion
Circle D Stall Converter
Livernois Motorsports 1-Piece Aluminum Driveshaft
Livernois Motorsports Dyno Tune
FRPP Springs & Adjustable Shocks/Struts
Drag Radials/Skinnies

This is the best ET so far. With the weather getting better now, it should be quicker.



Video of it racing a C6 Z06 (he red lit)

11 Stang vs. C6 Z06

-Rick
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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Thanks for the info Rick. Didn't realize Shaun had such a factory freak on his hands.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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I don't think its coincidence that Shaun's was a factory freak lol. He's connected.

Which reminds me, I need to PM Shaun about seeing if he can get me into the Mustang focus group coming up in Irvine....
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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^ i wanna go too!!!!!!!
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 20115.0
^ i wanna go too!!!!!!!
did you do the survey daniel?
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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nope lol
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 20115.0
nope lol
Wait a sec, you haven't received your car yet lol. You get the survey in the mail after you pickup your car. But the focus group thing is this weekend.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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i get my car this weekend supposedly lol so if i get the survey i could just bring it

that sucks, itd be cool to go
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 20115.0
i get my car this weekend supposedly lol so if i get the survey i could just bring it

that sucks, itd be cool to go
That would be great if you could swing it! Basically they just mail you a slip with an access code on it. You use the code to get into a website and from there you fill out the survey.

That'd be cool if we got to go!
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Thanks for the info Rick. Didn't realize Shaun had such a factory freak on his hands.

Ask him how he broke in his car...... lesson to be learned:

Break it in just like how you're going to drive it normally..... if you're gonna drive it like you stole it, then break it in that way.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Well, maybe I'm in luck then. I broke it in just right...
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by eric n
Look at the new BOSS... 440 hp. 455 at the crank x .88 (representing 12% loss) equals right at 400. But on the boss they have worked the heads and created a new intake as well as tuning and other things for 440..... WTF???
Most likely the engine's power curve is going to show that it is a stellar power maker in the higher RPM range, which is where you want it for the sustained higher speeds of road course racing. The sum of those changes is for a different character of output.

The standard 5.0 is a great engine in its own right.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Power mods for me will be:

-Corsa XO-pipe & axle back (~10hp, not verified)
-Steeda CAI
-Livernois tune

I'm aiming for 435-440rwhp with that. Identical to Shaun's set up, just with a different exhaust.
Most cars are making about 400-405 rwhp with those mods.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tom281
Ask him how he broke in his car...... lesson to be learned:

Break it in just like how you're going to drive it normally..... if you're gonna drive it like you stole it, then break it in that way.
Shaun also had a little "help" with the break in.
First and foremost I would like to thank Ralph Arning (Vehicle Program Manager) for giving a great tour, Dave Pericak (Mustang Chief Engineer) for one hell of a ride on the test track and introducing to me to my new car.

We were asked to come down to AAI to tour the plant after they tracked my Mom down for having the first public 2011 Mustang. Today was the day.

After watching a brief safety video we headed into the stamping area, while talking about the history of AAI they had pulled my car (which hadn’t shipped yet) outside of the stamping dept. We approach the door and Mr. Arning says "over here you'll find something you might recognize" and outside the door is my brand new 2011 5.0. At which point I am introduced to Mr. Pericak. He starts to go over some of the finer points of the car (which I was trying to listen to but I got kinda lost in the moment) and I want to apologize to him for the unexpected hug LOL.

At this point he asks if I would like to go for a ride on the test track. How do you say no to that?!?!?!?!?

As we get into the car they remind him that the speed limit is 25mph, to which he responds 25 eh?

any way he asks how he wants me to treat the car, to which I respond "your not going to anything I am not going to"

This car pulls to the redline with no fall off. The only thing that stops the pull is the rev limiter. Before I know it we are at speeds that are approaching double some highway limits. 40% banked corners on each end did not allow me to tell anything about the handling but the brakes work well (Brembos) when we got back to where we had left my family all four corners brakes were smoking.
With respect to why this may have been a factor, read here.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 06:48 AM
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Rick, any more info. on the prototype FRPP manifold and CAI?
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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I guess I won't have a better ball park figure until I get some type of baseline dyno numbers down.

Rick, can you PM me some info on a dyno run and tune?
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