Am I the only one having a hard time downshifting smoothly? The car just dives so much when going down a gear. I've even been trying to rev match on the downshift to make things smoother, but it's hardly successful. I used to own an 07 GSXR 750 and a 5 speed car with an 8lb flywheel and got used to rev matching, but I'm not getting it with this car. How are you guys doing? How heavy is the flywheel on this car it revs like it's 50lbs.

 

If you're not rev-matching, it's going to be really rough, of course. And a Mustang is completely different than a bike...it just takes practice.

 

Different car, different gear and rpms that you have to match on the blip.

 

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These cars can be downshifted smoothly and you'll get it with practice... you already understand the concept so you're farther along than many folks on this forum.

 

Practice some more? Rev that MF up bro!

 

Yup. I don't downshift ever without rev-matching in this car. Are you double clutch or single clutch downshifting?

 

I know what you mean about the flywheels. I had a subaru with a 12lb flywheel and just a small blip is all it took to rev match. This thing feels like I have to try to hit redline every time to get it to match up. I usually heel toe so it's a little more intrusive to hold the throttle that long while on the brake and all the other things I'm trying to do simultaneously.

 

Took me a little while to get it right too, even coming from another Mustang, but its so much easier w/ a 6 speed. No more heavy engine braking. I blip it like 500-1k RPMs and try to skip gears when I can, but it depends on your speed. And if Im early on the blip, like on a turn, I hit it again. Still fine tuning it all, but Ive got her running smooth now. Youll get it.

P.S. When in doubt, use your brake and save your clutch.

 

And be easy releasing the clutch. A lot of the 'smoothness' is found here.

 

also a lot of the clutch/syncro wear is found there. The point of rev matching is so you don't have to be slow on the clutch and can therefore quicker

 

Took me about 2K miles to really get used to the blip on this car. A lot more fun now that I've got it though. Smoother as well. Practice practice practice.

 

most of its because of the lag in the electronic throttle...just takes a little while b/c it doesnt rev as quick as a bike or a car with a cable throttle

 

Is it true that a tune removes some of the rev hang?

 

Yeah like most late model manual trans cars it has a heavy flywheel and the electronic throttle lag that makes it tricky to time it. But, for me at least, I think the pedal placement in this car makes the blip much easier.

 

yes, all the tuned cars ive driven the throttle response is much better. Still not as easy as in my 98 Cobra. But that has a lightweight clutch, driveshaft and flywheel. So it revs to the moon easily

 

It's not that bad. Just work on it.

 

Personally, I don't feel any kind of lag. If I didn't know better, I'd think it was a cable throttle. Electronic throttles have come a long way quickly, in comparing my Stang to my previous car ('03 Mazda6). The throttle on our cars is precise enough that I find it easy to move in bumper-to-bumper traffic at 1,000 RPM or less. It'd be hard to do that with a bad lag.

 

He is talking about heel-toe. A big part of the issue is the brake override setting that prevents Toyota style failure. If you totally defeat the advance track (long press with brake) you will allow simultaneous application of brake and throttle. Only Mustang and raptor have a way to turn that off.

 

Not true on my car. I heel-toe constantly and never have any kind of issue, and I'm not turning off any of the safety nets to do it.