2012 GT FRPP Handling pack adjustable versus non-adjustable
9/29/12, 06:51 PM
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2012 GT FRPP Handling pack adjustable versus non-adjustable
I recently picked up a 2012 Brembo GT. I was going to wait a while before I changed anything but the stock suspension is very bouncy. I was looking at the FRPP handling pack. I went here to search for reviews and found very good reviews for the adjustable version. I have always lowered my cars with complete suspension but never felt that adjustable suspension was needed. Is there a big difference? Is it worth the extra money?
9/30/12, 12:40 AM
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I think it's worth the money. Especially if you like to go to autox or road courses in your fun time like me. Adjustable is always better in those cases so you can dial in your car to react to your inputs the way you want. That way you can figure out just how you want it to react.
9/30/12, 08:03 AM
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The Adj. pack is not a whole lot extra over the non-adjustable pack.
IMO better to have the option to make adjustments if you want than not be able.
I have the Adj. Pack on my car and recommend it.
Either way the stock ride is too bouncy like you mention and either pack will be a huge improvement.
IMO better to have the option to make adjustments if you want than not be able.
I have the Adj. Pack on my car and recommend it.
Either way the stock ride is too bouncy like you mention and either pack will be a huge improvement.
9/30/12, 08:07 AM
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Go adjustable...it's about $200 more...so you're looking at $25 a corner for that feature...not that bad :-)
In fact, I have my sights on that kit as we speak.
In fact, I have my sights on that kit as we speak.
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Lol, i worked in sales for many years. $50 dollars a wheel convinced me. I didn't need much convincing to be honest. I was looking at this site. I found a reference on this forum for it.
http://fordracingparts123.com/index....oducts_id=1238
http://fordracingparts123.com/index....oducts_id=1238
9/30/12, 10:36 PM
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I bought mine for 1350.00 but if you are paying for shipping prepared to get raped because 180 lbs shipping cost me 185.00 I see that ad says free shipping on 1500.00 orders, so you might want to buy some gears or something, that way you actually get something for your money and not just throw it away on shipping charges.
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...can't believe I was in accounting for 5 years
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I am convinced about the adjustable handling pack. Have any of you used the 5300 k spring for the 1.5 inch drop instead of the 1 inch drop? I am considering getting this springs instead. Is the ride really that much worse? All of my cars have been lowered for the past 20 years and I never really had a problem with comfort. Some of what I have read here about the 1.5" drop has made me nervous. I have read about it rubbing the wheel well and just being way too uncomfortable. Any opinions?
10/2/12, 10:16 AM
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I am convinced about the adjustable handling pack. Have any of you used the 5300 k spring for the 1.5 inch drop instead of the 1 inch drop? I am considering getting this springs instead. Is the ride really that much worse? All of my cars have been lowered for the past 20 years and I never really had a problem with comfort. Some of what I have read here about the 1.5" drop has made me nervous. I have read about it rubbing the wheel well and just being way too uncomfortable. Any opinions?
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Is there an icon for a partial agreement? 
Only reason why I partially agree is because (and this is just my opinion) suspension kits should be purchased based on defined goals. Are you a weekend warrior? Do you just want looks? Are you actually road racing your car in a competitive setting?
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...f-performance/
The FRPP handling pack is a very basic entry-level kit that I actually thought about purchasing. The adjustability feature is more than just a gimic, but do you really need it? Will you actually be able to safely adjust the damper to optimal road conditions and driving intent? $200 is nothing to sneeze at. If you plan to go weekend racing, you'd get more for your money by buying a non-adjustable setup that is pre-tuned for the spring length+rate and using the money saved for a 4-link kit (Watts). Driver mods would be more beneficial at that stage than being able to adjust the damper.
Have you thought about a basic tuned shock and strut set?
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...225&ModelID=35
You could get the above kit and then spend the money saved on removing the rear wheel hop. If you do plan to race, you'll need custom valved racing shocks with reservoirs like the Vorshlag Mustang. It might be better to get the cheaper kit now to reduce the dive and squat, ride it out for 100k, and save the money for a full race setup later.
In the end it's what you want and the above parameters are just my personal thought processes.
Only reason why I partially agree is because (and this is just my opinion) suspension kits should be purchased based on defined goals. Are you a weekend warrior? Do you just want looks? Are you actually road racing your car in a competitive setting?
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...f-performance/
The FRPP handling pack is a very basic entry-level kit that I actually thought about purchasing. The adjustability feature is more than just a gimic, but do you really need it? Will you actually be able to safely adjust the damper to optimal road conditions and driving intent? $200 is nothing to sneeze at. If you plan to go weekend racing, you'd get more for your money by buying a non-adjustable setup that is pre-tuned for the spring length+rate and using the money saved for a 4-link kit (Watts). Driver mods would be more beneficial at that stage than being able to adjust the damper.
Have you thought about a basic tuned shock and strut set?
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...225&ModelID=35
You could get the above kit and then spend the money saved on removing the rear wheel hop. If you do plan to race, you'll need custom valved racing shocks with reservoirs like the Vorshlag Mustang. It might be better to get the cheaper kit now to reduce the dive and squat, ride it out for 100k, and save the money for a full race setup later.
In the end it's what you want and the above parameters are just my personal thought processes.
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I think I used the word "basic" to shortcut the idea that car manufacturers, even on niche builds (and with the exception of homologation builds), try to design for the widest appeal. I guess that kind of proves your point though. I just wanted to give cheaper options that may accomplish the same task
10/5/12, 03:42 PM
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Is there an icon for a partial agreement?
Only reason why I partially agree is because (and this is just my opinion) suspension kits should be purchased based on defined goals. Are you a weekend warrior? Do you just want looks? Are you actually road racing your car in a competitive setting?
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...f-performance/
The FRPP handling pack is a very basic entry-level kit that I actually thought about purchasing. The adjustability feature is more than just a gimic, but do you really need it? Will you actually be able to safely adjust the damper to optimal road conditions and driving intent? $200 is nothing to sneeze at. If you plan to go weekend racing, you'd get more for your money by buying a non-adjustable setup that is pre-tuned for the spring length+rate and using the money saved for a 4-link kit (Watts). Driver mods would be more beneficial at that stage than being able to adjust the damper.
Have you thought about a basic tuned shock and strut set?
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...225&ModelID=35
You could get the above kit and then spend the money saved on removing the rear wheel hop. If you do plan to race, you'll need custom valved racing shocks with reservoirs like the Vorshlag Mustang. It might be better to get the cheaper kit now to reduce the dive and squat, ride it out for 100k, and save the money for a full race setup later.
In the end it's what you want and the above parameters are just my personal thought processes.
Only reason why I partially agree is because (and this is just my opinion) suspension kits should be purchased based on defined goals. Are you a weekend warrior? Do you just want looks? Are you actually road racing your car in a competitive setting?
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...f-performance/
The FRPP handling pack is a very basic entry-level kit that I actually thought about purchasing. The adjustability feature is more than just a gimic, but do you really need it? Will you actually be able to safely adjust the damper to optimal road conditions and driving intent? $200 is nothing to sneeze at. If you plan to go weekend racing, you'd get more for your money by buying a non-adjustable setup that is pre-tuned for the spring length+rate and using the money saved for a 4-link kit (Watts). Driver mods would be more beneficial at that stage than being able to adjust the damper.
Have you thought about a basic tuned shock and strut set?
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...225&ModelID=35
You could get the above kit and then spend the money saved on removing the rear wheel hop. If you do plan to race, you'll need custom valved racing shocks with reservoirs like the Vorshlag Mustang. It might be better to get the cheaper kit now to reduce the dive and squat, ride it out for 100k, and save the money for a full race setup later.
In the end it's what you want and the above parameters are just my personal thought processes.
People that are going to turn the car into total race cars will find a more tailored solution, so this isn't the be-all-end-all for racers, but it provides a good variety of settings for the vehicle at a good price.
The FRPP shocks & struts are Tokico D-Spec dampers with a unique valving set up from Ford Racing. I've heard from several engineers and owners that the non-adjustable dampers are a bit stiff for daily driving, but are decent on a road course. Then again, YMMV.
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I am convinced about the adjustable handling pack. Have any of you used the 5300 k spring for the 1.5 inch drop instead of the 1 inch drop? I am considering getting this springs instead. Is the ride really that much worse? All of my cars have been lowered for the past 20 years and I never really had a problem with comfort. Some of what I have read here about the 1.5" drop has made me nervous. I have read about it rubbing the wheel well and just being way too uncomfortable. Any opinions?