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Old May 5, 2012 | 06:55 AM
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2012 GT at dealer with its AUTO transmission pulled :(

2012 GT at dealer with its AUTO transmission pulled

Well I hope this is a rare thing, but my 2012 6AT started making a whirring groaning whine sound while in gear, not park or neutral. The sound was not very loud, but could be heard easily if you had the car somewhere the sound could bounce, like a garage or next to a wall.

Took the car in, and the service adviser and I agreed that it sounded like transmission pump noise. After they had the car for a few days they could not pinpoint the noise, so the Ford hotline approved replacement of the pump and converter to attempt remediation of the noise.

While I'm waiting on the parts, I'm beginning to have an internal conflict with my love for the Mustang and the transmission failure rate of the current cars. I badly want to install a supercharger, but if I can't depend on the parts not breaking in stock form, I can't even imagine what would happen with the extra power from the supercharger, especially on a daily driver.

Do you guys trust the stock parts enough to install a supercharger and void the factory powertrain warranty, or would you just put that $7000 down on a 2013 GT500 that will already have the power and upgraded parts?
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Old May 5, 2012 | 07:02 AM
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So just to be clear, you're asking me weather I trust the quality of the stock parts enough or should you go with a '13 500? I would choose the '13 500 every time even if I did trust the quality of stock parts.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 07:13 AM
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As a cost comparison, the GT500 will obviously cost more in monthly payments and insurance, while installing a supercharger on a stock GT will be cheaper overall, but includes risks.

So it boils down to trust over money..
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Old May 5, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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Don't trust any Mustang................because a few have problems?............lol.....
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Old May 5, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AzPete
Don't trust any Mustang................because a few have problems?............lol.....
For one, I didn't say that. Secondly, this 2012 GT is my second 2011+ 5.0 Mustang with transmission issues, one with an MT82 Manual and one with the 6R80 Automatic.

And for a quick background, this is my 10th Mustang since 1987, so I'm no stranger to Mustangs. Outside of my wife's Ford Flex, the only Ford model I've ever owned is a Mustang. If Ford as a company has one historically bad thing with the Mustang, it's the transmissions.

I think I've already answered my question regarding the the GT500 vs Supercharged stock car, if you want to modify the stock car to be as fast or better than the GT500, start with a GT500.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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yay!! its not a mt82 thread.

I hear hondas never break. you should check into those.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Is any one building a stronger auto? Since the SC could cause warranty issues, might as well swap to a stronger auto and have the stock car built to do what you want it to.

I believe you are the only one I have heard of with a bad.......um.....auto tranny.

BTW, if an individual wanted to build a stock car to beat a GT500....starting with a GT500 is not doing that.....
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Old May 5, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Sorry you had issues with your auto. The 6r80 trannys are bulletproof with the exception of you if course. Don't let it get you down ; its just some bad luck at once. Keep us informed.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
yay!! its not a mt82 thread.

I hear hondas never break. you should check into those.

Had lot of cars, including a Honda. All cars break, their mechanical, so it's just of matter of when, not if. Here my list of cars I've owned starting in '87, and almost all have had driveline or suspension issues or problems.

1981 Toyota Pickup
1981 Ford Mustang
1985 Chevy Camaro Z28 IROC-Z
1984 Dodge Daytona Turbo Z
1984 Ford Mustang GT
1985 Chevy Camaro
1990 Ford Mustang LX 5.0
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1981 Chevy Camaro Z28
1984 Ford Mustang GT - This was my favorite car, did lots of work to it, kept almost 4-years, which is an millenium for me.
1998 Dodge Avenger V6
1999 Dodge Neon R/T
2000 Honda Civic EX
1989 Ford Mustang LX 5.0
2002 VW Jetta 1.8T
2003 VW GTI VR6
2004 VW Golf R32
2004 Ford Mustang Cobra
2004 Pontiac GTO 5.7L 6MT
1989 Ford Mustang GT
2006 Mazda 6 Wagon V6
2007 Mazda Speed 6
2007 Pontiac G6
2011 Ford Mustang GT 6MT
2012 Ford Mustang GT 6AT

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Old May 5, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang Mafia
Sorry you had issues with your auto. The 6r80 trannys are bulletproof with the exception of you if course. Don't let it get you down ; its just some bad luck at once. Keep us informed.
I hope you're right. The Ford Service Advisor was a little surprised when I told him on the phone I had an automatic transmission noise, he was already assuming the MT82 before I could even get the word automatic out of my mouth.

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Old May 5, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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Had lot of cars, Here my list of cars I've owned starting in '87,
Well there you go - its karma. You show absolutely no loyalty to your machine.




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Old May 5, 2012 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kn7671
and almost all have had driveline or suspension issues or problems.
That many cars and they all had the same problems? Seems like the only common factor is...the driver.

Maybe it's not the transmission. Maybe it's the way you drive it.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kcoTiger
That many cars and they all had the same problems? Seems like the only common factor is...the driver.

Maybe it's not the transmission. Maybe it's the way you drive it.
It cant always be the world that wrong..
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Old May 6, 2012 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kcoTiger
That many cars and they all had the same problems? Seems like the only common factor is...the driver.

Maybe it's not the transmission. Maybe it's the way you drive it.
LOL - It was a general reference, I didn't mean all needed new transmissions or rebuilds. I'm simply stating and acknowledging that cars aren't perfect, don't expect them to be, and the issues could have been cold shift issues, gear grind issue, bad suspension, etc..

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Old May 6, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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I think it will be fine. little things happen and when we catch them early they do not become big thinks
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Old May 6, 2012 | 11:23 AM
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One bad pump out of many. The 6r80 is a bad a$$ transmission.
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Old May 7, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by kn7671
2012 GT at dealer with its AUTO transmission pulled
Well I hope this is a rare thing, but my 2012 6AT started making a whirring groaning whine sound while in gear, not park or neutral. The sound was not very loud, but could be heard easily if you had the car somewhere the sound could bounce, like a garage or next to a wall.
Took the car in, and the service adviser and I agreed that it sounded like transmission pump noise. After they had the car for a few days they could not pinpoint the noise, so the Ford hotline approved replacement of the pump and converter to attempt remediation of the noise.

While I'm waiting on the parts, I'm beginning to have an internal conflict with my love for the Mustang and the transmission failure rate of the current cars.
Hi kn7671,

I'd like to escalate this to the Customer Service Manager assigned to your area. Please, PM me with your VIN, dealer, mileage, full name, and best daytime number so I can help.

Deysha
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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 06:22 PM
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I have a 2007 Honda accord V-6 & love it & a 2003 Mach 1 Tremec 5 speed ...no problems.....looking @ a 2012 GT automatic with 12,500 miles on it....any thoughts?
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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 07:00 PM
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I agree.....I think part of the problem are the TV commercials & advertising....these young foolish kids buy these cars & abuse them thinking they can handle it & end up having problems....I have a 2003 Mach1 / 5- speed & have had zero problems
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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 08:23 PM
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The 6R80 is tough as nails. I'm on my second one with no issues.
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