Twin Turbo

Cool!

http://jalopnik.com/5362504/2011-mus...rque-camaro-v6

We already knew the 3.7-liter V6-powered 2011 Ford Mustang has a power output of 315 HP at 5,250 RPM. Sources now tell us peak torque will be 275 lb-ft at 3,500 RPM. Camaro-comparo graph below.

When the folks at The Mustang Source dropped power output numbers on the both the "Coyote"-powered 2011 Mustang GT and the 3.7-liter V6-powered 2011 Mustang, we'd only heard what horsepower would look like. And it looked strong — a Camaro V6-killing 315 HP.

Now sources have leaked to us the torque numbers and they're set to provide the same kind of a smack down — 275 lb-ft of torque. While that bests the 2010 Camaro V6 by merely 2 lb-ft, as we all know, the muscle car wars have always been a game of whipping power numbers out of your pants. So on the budget side — Ford's V6 looks like they'll win this round. Here's a quick graph we've worked up to show you the full secretary car tale of the tape:

Thomas S

I like how they made the Camaro pink on that chart, lol.

Clino

Nice! That 3.7 is going be a screamer! I am almost as excited to see what it can do as I am about the 5.0.

The 60's, the 80's, and now. This is officially the 3rd era of the horsepower wars beginning. I can't wait!

Knight

Why in these comparisons do they keep quoteing the camaro V6 at 300hp? Its 304hp and always has been.


I'm still skeptical of the mustang v6 315hp figure that has been started since The Insider.

Twin Turbo

Ford hasn't denied it though, have they?

Knight

Well they usually won't. Anything they give on what its not gives more info on what it is.

1trickpony

I wonder where the HP rpm number comes from and he probably meant to say was 6250 rpm and not 5250. I was expecting a higher TQ number but not 315 HP. I'm actually starting to believe 315 HP. I'm going to be pissed if Ford lets us donwn with much less.

TTS197

I caught that too. That number sound really low, lol at the 5250.

1trickpony

Forgive my triad, I know I shouldn't expect better but did anyone read the comments at the bottom of the link or the stuff at Camaro 5? Denial is not a river in Egypt. People will come up with the most illogical reasons to bash something. Even after the numbers come out I'm sure someone out there will start the "overrated rumor" even after the Stang puts down 270 HP at the wheels. And yes I think the 2011 Stang V6 will clean up at the drag strip versus the Camaro V6. I don't see Chevy finding another 30-40 HP next year or losing 300 pounds. My favorite was Ford will charge $35K for this engine or what will the fuel economy look like? The 2011 should be over 300 pounds lighter than a Camaro so it should beat its city fuel economy with the new engine. I'm guessing 19/29 or 20/29 with the stick. Anyone want to hazard a guess? I agree Ford kind hosed the 2010 folks with the carryover engines but I think Ford honestly tried to get the 5.0 ready for 2010 and just ran out of time. It kind of makes sense to hold off on the 3.7L until 2011 if it’s making the same power as the 4.6L.

tacbear

Sounds like Alan Mulally wasn't lying when I asked him about the 2011 Mustang Horsepower ratings. He said I can't tell you the exact numbers...but 2011 Mustang owners will be very pleased with what we have in store!!!

Arrow

What's Chevy's response going to be to the possible EcoBoost V6 Mustang?

Zabo

Nothing. There won't be one.

It's been discussed already that the option was either a V6 and a Boost6 or a V6 and V8. A Boosted 6 would put the car in GT territory easily and cannibalize GT sales. It's the same reason there isn't a Firebird (or Pontiac).

As for the torque thing. 275 over 273.. [sarcasm]really impressed there[/sarcasm]. At least they stepped up and played the game. Eeked out a little more than the Camaro to stay in the game. But once the RWTQ numbers come out I expect the two cars to be equal at around 250ftlbs.

But being the S197 chassis.. the Stang will still win due to it's nimbleness. The do, however, need to offer a tapshift standard. Just like the Camaro. Even the LS base stripper Camaro has tapshift if you order the Automatic trans.

TTS197

hi5.0

A case of getting it right, methinks! Hope those numbers do pan out - sorry GM fanboys, looks like Mustang may send Camaro back to the boneyard of history. Again.

Zabo

And give rationale for Ford to not give the pony more Viagra, preferring to just snip the ***** off instead for the sake of 'fuel economy'. HP wars are back..

All-Or-Nothing

The funniest things over ther are the look at me threads. for example, "2 UFOs crashed on the highway at rush hour but since traffic was stopped everyone got out their cars to come look at Me and my Camaro. No one even noticed the UFOs. I am such a Rockstar now."



OK back to the topic. If FORD does follow thru with these numbers it will be a great day indeed.

YSUsteven

One way to beat the compettion is to stay ahead. If the V6 has more output than the Camaro, its a huge victory for ford. Not only will the V8 be faster, but so will the V6. Now that GM is playing with fire, there gona get !

Zabo

And being a fan of both cars, I gotta say that this is a freaking godsend that Ford's not taking this lying down. The LLT in the LT and LS should have more wiggleroom to boost output. Same way Ford's doing it with the 3.7L (which should have even more, so no worries there). Granted the Camaro will still be heavier until they run though this design cycle, but damnit this war is gonna be a blast nonetheless.

FordBlueHeart

Forget the tapshift, that's for posers. When a DCT is available, we can talk.

Zabo

DCT is too expensive in this day and age. They could do CVT but I don't think that'd jive with the general Mustang buyer. But tapshift is fun.. never said it should be used on the track. Having used it on a 2LT I found that it's a nice alternative to just mashing the pedal and waiting to go around traffic when you're screaming in your head "DROP A **** GEAR ALREADY!".

Odd thing is that it's not just a tapshift or auto thing, but also there's another setting to cause the trans to cut some lag out of the trans (sport mode).

Now if Ford did that, I'm sure the popularity would increase since the casual Mustang buyer would probably want an automatic, and finding this would make the selling point for an Auto even more interesting to joe blow.

Enthusiasts will still want the 6spd, and there really will never be a proper replacement, I'll agree there.