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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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2010 Mustang’s Proven Powertrains Deliver Signature Horsepower, Performance

2010 MUSTANG’S PROVEN POWERTRAINS DELIVER SIGNATURE HORSEPOWER, PERFORMANCE

  • The 4.6-liter V-8 engine gains horsepower through air-induction system pioneered on Ford’s extensive racing programs
  • Upgrades also made to shifter and exhaust tips, which are ½-inch larger than the outgoing
    V-6 and V-8 models
LOS ANGELES, Nov. 18, 2008 – Lessons learned on the track and from specialty Mustangs mean even more fun for drivers of the new 2010 Ford Mustang – especially those who want to customize their powertrains.

Available for the 2010 Mustang are a 4.0-liter V-6 engine, which is rated at 210 horsepower and 240 pounds-feet of torque, and a 4.6-liter V-8 engine, which is rated at 315 horsepower and 325 pounds-feet of torque. Each is mated to five-speed manual or five-speed automatic transmissions.

“We have fantastic engines,” said Chief Nameplate Engineer Paul Randle. “Our 4.6-liter, three-valve V-8 engine has won ‘Ward’s 10 Best’ for our years in a row and is the most-accessorized engine in the marketplace. Plus, Mustang customers love to personalize their cars, and our engine platforms allow them to do that.”

The Ford team uses advances gained through programs such as the Ford Racing Mustang Challenge and special editions to improve the 2010 Mustang.

Improvements inspired by the Bullitt program, for instance, are seen on the genuine polished-aluminum manual transmission **** and leather-wrapped shift ****, which support a short-throw, performance-based shifter originally launched on the feature car.

Horsepower gains on the V-8 are achieved by the cold-air induction system pioneered through Ford Racing Technology. The intake is tucked behind the driver-side headlamp, mounted in an air box specific to the Mustang. Extensive sealing modifications ensure cold air from the front of the Mustang feed the engine.

A true ram-air system offered on a base GT vehicle is a first for Mustang.

“That means more horsepower and more torque in all driving conditions,” Randle said.

The redline for the V-8 is increased 250 rpm to 6,500, and revised calibration ensures the customer fully feels these changes.

Both the V-6 and V-8 engines have larger exhaust tips, growing to 3 and 3 ½ inches, respectively, up ½ inch from the previous model. The V-8 exhaust features polished tips.

“The 2010 Mustang runs great on regular fuel, and that is where we quote our peak numbers, but we also have a great dual-adaptive knock calibration that allows the 2010 Mustang to run on regular fuel as well as premium fuel, and the system figures it out itself,” said powertrain supervisor Chris Roxin. “It also improves the torque of the engine in the low- to mid-rpm range.”

The powertrain feel also is enhanced by intake and exhaust sound tuning that delivers Mustang’s signature sound. “All the better to hear that famous Mustang roar that’s been inspiring customers for more than four decade,” Randle said.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Ram air CAI. 315hp on 87 octane. Not bad for a one year effort.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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Chief Nameplate Engineer Paul Randle. “Our 4.6-liter, three-valve V-8 engine has won ‘Ward’s 10 Best’ for our years in a row and is the most-accessorized engine in the marketplace.”
I'm not sure that's a bragging point. Maybe it's accessorized because it is found wanting for horsepower.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
I'm not sure that's a bragging point. Maybe it's accessorized because it is found wanting for horsepower.
He's saying "stop whining about the HP, there's plenty of cheap mods to boost it and 2011 isn't that far away."
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Ok so according to MT this GT weighs in at 15lbs heavier due to upgraded materials. They also claimed the car will run a .3 faster 0-60 than the current base GT on a hot street which would put it at 4.8 sec and also .3 faster in the quarter mile (so 13.2). Not bad numbers for a car with basically the same setup. Now this is the part I thought was cool. We can't ***** about not having a factory 400hp version available because the dealership will install a FR supercharger on your car and still give you the warranty!!!!! So where you might have to pay a few more thousand dollars you will be in the realm of the competion but you will smoke them with 400hp and about a 400lb weight differential. So all in all not a bad showing for ford and the 2010 IMO! They will sell a bunch of these and in MY 2011 a naturally aspirated 400 HP motor will be out to seal the deal!
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 12:14 AM
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The engine bay is black? Interesting touch....very old school. I like it.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MTAS
The engine bay is black? Interesting touch....very old school. I like it.
Might not be final.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSugeKnight
Ram air CAI. 315hp on 87 octane. Not bad for a one year effort.
Dude thats horrible i get more from my intake and tune from tillman. alot more.....
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 02:20 AM
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We can't ***** about not having a factory 400hp version available because the dealership will install a Ford Racing supercharger on your car and still give you the warranty!!!!! So where you might have to pay a few more thousand dollars you will be in the realm of the competition but you will smoke them with 400hp and about a 400lb weight difference
I wonder how valid that is. If true and it doesn't cost $5000 that it is very good news. Very good news indeed
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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not enough of a bump to give up my current stang
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 06:17 AM
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Interesting way for Ford to spin the fact they are getting killed in HP by Dodge and Chevy.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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how did they get 15 extra HP and no torque
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by fdjizm
how did they get 15 extra HP and no torque
It did, up from 320 to 325.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 08:04 AM
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Interesting way for Ford to spin the fact they are getting killed in HP by Dodge and Chevy.
This piqued my interest.
Ok, 315HP outta 4.6L = 68.49 (rounded up) HP per litre.
(btw, currently, it's 300HP / 4.6 = 65.21)

Challenger has two engines, both bigger:

372 / 5.7 = 65.26 HP per
425 / 6.1 = 69.67 HP per

Camaro will have (and this was odd, not on the Chevy site):
400 / 6.2 (Auto) = 64.52
422 / 6.2 (Manual) = 68.06

So, to recap, when the 2010s hit, only the biggest Challenger (and a huge one at that) is beating Mustang's HP per Litre. So if Ford decided to charge you 2.5K more for a 5.4 Triton that got 450HP, would you do it? Well, it likely won't happen, given the HP/L numbers, as 450 / 5.4 = 83.33 per, and that's not happening on any of these V8s. So the 5.7L should get about 370HP. (assuming a 68.49 HP per L figure like the 10's 4.6's output) Would ya still do it? Would that be fair/about right?

Oh, and pricing, btw.:

Mustang GT starting at $27k (2009 model, I can only assume the bump will be about 1k or so, like it is for the Premium, so $28K* for base GT in 10 as a guesstimate. May be $28.5K)
Challenger R/T starting at 30.5k
Camaro SS starting at $31k (rumored, not on the Chevy site yet.)

There's where Ford's losing a little bit... by having that small engine, for only 2.5K more*, you can haz some more horsepower in a heavy pig, or 3K more* it's in an homely car, you're choice. Oh, and use more gas, because of the higher displacement, so there's that extra cost.

Bonus question... do the others run on 87 octane? IDK myself. I'm sure they'll "run", but will they be getting those HP numbers?

Now, for some, it's *all* about the HP and displacement, with a significant lean to torque as well. Regardless of weight or prettiness. More power to them. I'm more about the entire package, and the Mustang just flat out wins in my book... even with the new design.


I'll tell you what *IS* disappointing is the horsepower on the V6 side of things:

Mustang: 4.0L 250HP 62.5HP per L
Challenger: 3.5L 250HP 71.43
Camaro: 3.6L 300HP 83.33

What's wrong with that picture? Why is Ford so *lacking* in power... or better put, efficiency? Horrible engine. Has been since it was a 3.8. Ford needs to step up in this department. There's no way the 4.0 doesn't get 350HP, except they're detuning it so the V8 stays on top... or they destroke and debore the thing to a 3.0 and get the same HP.

Which does beg the question... why can't these V8s from Ford, Dodge and Chevy also get 83 per litre? What's the problem there? THAT is what everyone here should be decrying... we could have awesome V6s, or stupid awesome V8s.

And imagine if Chevy's V8s got the same HP/L that their 3.6 is getting? Whoa: 6.2 * 83.33 = 516.65 HP NORMALLY ASPIRATED FUEL INJECTED BEHEMOTHS. Even on 93 octane, that's awesome. Ya ask me, their engine lineup is rather wimpy. Doesn't look like they're "beating" anyone. So there.

/having fun with spin and numbers!

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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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“Our 4.6-liter, three-valve V-8 engine has won ‘Ward’s 10 Best’ for our years in a row"
for our years in a row? say what?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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Dude thats horrible i get more from my intake and tune from tillman. alot more.....

Yeah but is it emissions compliant for all 50 states?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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Camaro pricing is available here on page 5: http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/pdf/...ifications.pdf

SS starts at $30,995.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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the move the air flow to the front rather the fender what a concept , kinda like what my K&N is doing now !
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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Based on your figures-
Challenger: 3.5L 250HP 71.43
Camaro: 3.6L 300HP 83.33

It looks like these 2 cars are the winners. Look at the HP to litre ratio.
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